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Hi!..Thanks for your time!...I need help from you guys BADLY!!!
My partner had her last years business financial accounts for
2006-2007...(done in ms works v7 spreadsheets) in her "my documents"
folder!...
she originally had some Problems with her computer so had to reload xp pro!
I then find out that she had these account files saved in her "my documents"
folder!..of all places!!!!!!!
I've gone to look for them ..but they've dissappeared!...There are a couple
of folders in "my documents", that have useless info in them from before her
xp pro reload...but all her financial records which were in the "my
documents" root have gone!
I remember reading somewhere that if xp pro is reloaded that the "my
documents" is not touched!...but in this case it has been!...please correct
me if i'm wrong!
Because there is ome useless info is in these folders inside the "my
documents" folder I am certain that these "financial account files" in "my
documents" root are still there...but are not displayed (hidden)
There is also no "restore file"...so I don't know what to do!
Can any of you experts recommend a way to make these account files
visible...or...be able to extract them?
Is there some software that can do this?
Otherwise it could take months to re-data entry the figures for thefull
financial year!
Thanks heaps because I'm absolutely lost!....& it’s tax time!
Glen
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 07:30:01 -0700, Desperate-Glen
<DesperateGlen[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Hi!..Thanks for your time!...I need help from you guys BADLY!!!
>
> My partner had her last years business financial accounts for
> 2006-2007...(done in ms works v7 spreadsheets) in her "my documents"
> folder!...
>
> she originally had some Problems with her computer so had to reload xp pro!
Please explain *exactly* what she did and how she did this.
> I then find out that she had these account files saved in her "my documents"
> folder!..of all places!!!!!!!
"Of all places"? Why? That's the normal place most people store such
files.
> I've gone to look for them ..but they've dissappeared!...
That's to be expected.
> There are a couple
> of folders in "my documents", that have useless info in them from before her
> xp pro reload...
That's the strange part, and the reason I ask for details on exactly
what she did.
> but all her financial records which were in the "my
> documents" root have gone!
>
> I remember reading somewhere that if xp pro is reloaded that the "my
> documents" is not touched!
That's not correct. If you reinstall Windows (correctly), *everything*
that was on the drive is lost.
>...but in this case it has been!...please correct
> me if i'm wrong!
>
> Because there is ome useless info is in these folders inside the "my
> documents" folder I am certain that these "financial account files" in "my
> documents" root are still there...but are not displayed (hidden)
Maybe. Since she clearly didn't do a correct reinstallation of Windows
(or else *no* files would be left), there's a possibility that the
files may exist somewhere. But I'm not willing to be certain until I
know exactly what she did.
> There is also no "restore file"...so I don't know what to do!
>
> Can any of you experts recommend a way to make these account files
> visible...or...be able to extract them?
>
> Is there some software that can do this?
>
> Otherwise it could take months to re-data entry the figures for thefull
> financial year!
Sorry to lecture you, but I need to point out the importance of
backing up critical files. That's especially true for someone like
you, who apparently uses the data professionally.
In this case, the files may be gone because of her error, but you need
to be aware that you are *always* vulnerable to losing the entire
contents of the drive at any time at such events as a hard drive
crash, user error, sever power glitch, nearby lightning strike, virus
attack, even theft of the computer. As has often been said, it's not a
matter of whether you will have such a problem, but when.
If your data is important to you, you need to institute a program of
regular backup, with backups stored externally to the computer. In
your case, as a professional, you should have multiple generations of
backup, and at least one of those generations should be stored
off-site.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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Or to put it anotherway;
A PC is like a car, you park it, return & its been lifted, or it wont start
"Desperate-Glen" <DesperateGlen[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B583747D-7FD1-49D6-B1A7-F64D17218352[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hi!..Thanks for your time!...I need help from you guys BADLY!!!
>
> My partner had her last years business financial accounts for
> 2006-2007...(done in ms works v7 spreadsheets) in her "my documents"
> folder!...
>
> she originally had some Problems with her computer so had to reload xp
> pro!
> I then find out that she had these account files saved in her "my
> documents"
> folder!..of all places!!!!!!!
>
> I've gone to look for them ..but they've dissappeared!...There are a
> couple
> of folders in "my documents", that have useless info in them from before
> her
> xp pro reload...but all her financial records which were in the "my
> documents" root have gone!
>
> I remember reading somewhere that if xp pro is reloaded that the "my
> documents" is not touched!...but in this case it has been!...please
> correct
> me if i'm wrong!
>
> Because there is ome useless info is in these folders inside the "my
> documents" folder I am certain that these "financial account files" in "my
> documents" root are still there...but are not displayed (hidden)
>
> There is also no "restore file"...so I don't know what to do!
>
> Can any of you experts recommend a way to make these account files
> visible...or...be able to extract them?
>
> Is there some software that can do this?
>
> Otherwise it could take months to re-data entry the figures for thefull
> financial year!
>
> Thanks heaps because I'm absolutely lost!....& it's tax time!
> Glen
>
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Hi Ken!
Thanks mate!
I have to go over there tonite, so she can show me what she did!
Will reply tonight!
Once again thanks!
glen
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 07:30:01 -0700, Desperate-Glen
> <DesperateGlen[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi!..Thanks for your time!...I need help from you guys BADLY!!!
> >
> > My partner had her last years business financial accounts for
> > 2006-2007...(done in ms works v7 spreadsheets) in her "my documents"
> > folder!...
> >
> > she originally had some Problems with her computer so had to reload xp pro!
>
>
> Please explain *exactly* what she did and how she did this.
>
>
> > I then find out that she had these account files saved in her "my documents"
> > folder!..of all places!!!!!!!
>
>
> "Of all places"? Why? That's the normal place most people store such
> files.
>
>
> > I've gone to look for them ..but they've dissappeared!...
>
>
> That's to be expected.
>
>
>
> > There are a couple
> > of folders in "my documents", that have useless info in them from before her
> > xp pro reload...
>
>
> That's the strange part, and the reason I ask for details on exactly
> what she did.
>
>
>
> > but all her financial records which were in the "my
> > documents" root have gone!
> >
> > I remember reading somewhere that if xp pro is reloaded that the "my
> > documents" is not touched!
>
>
>
> That's not correct. If you reinstall Windows (correctly), *everything*
> that was on the drive is lost.
>
>
> >...but in this case it has been!...please correct
> > me if i'm wrong!
> >
> > Because there is ome useless info is in these folders inside the "my
> > documents" folder I am certain that these "financial account files" in "my
> > documents" root are still there...but are not displayed (hidden)
>
>
> Maybe. Since she clearly didn't do a correct reinstallation of Windows
> (or else *no* files would be left), there's a possibility that the
> files may exist somewhere. But I'm not willing to be certain until I
> know exactly what she did.
>
>
> > There is also no "restore file"...so I don't know what to do!
> >
> > Can any of you experts recommend a way to make these account files
> > visible...or...be able to extract them?
> >
> > Is there some software that can do this?
> >
> > Otherwise it could take months to re-data entry the figures for thefull
> > financial year!
>
>
> Sorry to lecture you, but I need to point out the importance of
> backing up critical files. That's especially true for someone like
> you, who apparently uses the data professionally.
>
> In this case, the files may be gone because of her error, but you need
> to be aware that you are *always* vulnerable to losing the entire
> contents of the drive at any time at such events as a hard drive
> crash, user error, sever power glitch, nearby lightning strike, virus
> attack, even theft of the computer. As has often been said, it's not a
> matter of whether you will have such a problem, but when.
>
> If your data is important to you, you need to institute a program of
> regular backup, with backups stored externally to the computer. In
> your case, as a professional, you should have multiple generations of
> backup, and at least one of those generations should be stored
> off-site.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:26:01 -0700, Desperate-Glen
<DesperateGlen[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Hi Ken!
> Thanks mate!
> I have to go over there tonite, so she can show me what she did!
> Will reply tonight!
> Once again thanks!
You're welcome. Glad to help.
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 07:30:01 -0700, Desperate-Glen
> > <DesperateGlen[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi!..Thanks for your time!...I need help from you guys BADLY!!!
> > >
> > > My partner had her last years business financial accounts for
> > > 2006-2007...(done in ms works v7 spreadsheets) in her "my documents"
> > > folder!...
> > >
> > > she originally had some Problems with her computer so had to reload xp pro!
> >
> >
> > Please explain *exactly* what she did and how she did this.
> >
> >
> > > I then find out that she had these account files saved in her "my documents"
> > > folder!..of all places!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> > "Of all places"? Why? That's the normal place most people store such
> > files.
> >
> >
> > > I've gone to look for them ..but they've dissappeared!...
> >
> >
> > That's to be expected.
> >
> >
> >
> > > There are a couple
> > > of folders in "my documents", that have useless info in them from before her
> > > xp pro reload...
> >
> >
> > That's the strange part, and the reason I ask for details on exactly
> > what she did.
> >
> >
> >
> > > but all her financial records which were in the "my
> > > documents" root have gone!
> > >
> > > I remember reading somewhere that if xp pro is reloaded that the "my
> > > documents" is not touched!
> >
> >
> >
> > That's not correct. If you reinstall Windows (correctly), *everything*
> > that was on the drive is lost.
> >
> >
> > >...but in this case it has been!...please correct
> > > me if i'm wrong!
> > >
> > > Because there is ome useless info is in these folders inside the "my
> > > documents" folder I am certain that these "financial account files" in "my
> > > documents" root are still there...but are not displayed (hidden)
> >
> >
> > Maybe. Since she clearly didn't do a correct reinstallation of Windows
> > (or else *no* files would be left), there's a possibility that the
> > files may exist somewhere. But I'm not willing to be certain until I
> > know exactly what she did.
> >
> >
> > > There is also no "restore file"...so I don't know what to do!
> > >
> > > Can any of you experts recommend a way to make these account files
> > > visible...or...be able to extract them?
> > >
> > > Is there some software that can do this?
> > >
> > > Otherwise it could take months to re-data entry the figures for thefull
> > > financial year!
> >
> >
> > Sorry to lecture you, but I need to point out the importance of
> > backing up critical files. That's especially true for someone like
> > you, who apparently uses the data professionally.
> >
> > In this case, the files may be gone because of her error, but you need
> > to be aware that you are *always* vulnerable to losing the entire
> > contents of the drive at any time at such events as a hard drive
> > crash, user error, sever power glitch, nearby lightning strike, virus
> > attack, even theft of the computer. As has often been said, it's not a
> > matter of whether you will have such a problem, but when.
> >
> > If your data is important to you, you need to institute a program of
> > regular backup, with backups stored externally to the computer. In
> > your case, as a professional, you should have multiple generations of
> > backup, and at least one of those generations should be stored
> > off-site.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:26:45 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
[Quoted Text] >On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 07:30:01 -0700, Desperate-Glen
>> My partner had her last years business financial accounts for
>> 2006-2007...(done in ms works v7 spreadsheets) in her "my documents"
>> folder!...
>> she originally had some Problems with her computer so had to reload xp pro!
>Please explain *exactly* what she did and how she did this.
Also, what the problems were.
It's not often one "has to" reload Windows, and many times folks claim
they "had to" reload Windows, not only was it not needed, but it
didn't fix the underlying problem either.
>> I then find out that she had these account files saved in her "my documents"
>> folder!..of all places!!!!!!!
>"Of all places"? Why? That's the normal place most people store such
>files.
>> I've gone to look for them ..but they've dissappeared!...
>That's to be expected.
If you do a repair install of XP, the process will prompt you to
create a new user account. If you enter the same name as your
existing user account, you get two accounts that have the same account
name, but the underlying folder names within "Documents and Settings"
will differ (the new one usually has the PC name added to it).
If you log into the new account of the "same name", you will not see
data from the existing account. You'd have to ensure you can see all
files, then navigate appropriately in Windows Explorer.
If you have <ahem> "embraced the NTFS feature set" e.g. "make my files
private" and/or used EFS (Encrypting File System, only in XP Pro) then
you may have more work to do before you'd be allowed access to your
files, or where they are created. For example, you may have to "take
ownership" of them; if EFS, may be rather more than that :-)
>> There are a couple
>> of folders in "my documents", that have useless info in them from before her
>> xp pro reload...
More on that? Do you mean things like Desktop.ini, My Music's sample
files, that sort of thing, that XP creates?
>> but all her financial records which were in the "my
>> documents" root have gone!
>> I remember reading somewhere that if xp pro is reloaded that the "my
>> documents" is not touched!
It shouldn't be, if you did a "repair install". If you did a
destructive rebuild, as many "Genuine Advantage" OEM installations do,
then it WILL wipe everything. But with a repair install, your files
are not wiped, only mislaid ;-)
>That's not correct. If you reinstall Windows (correctly), *everything*
>that was on the drive is lost.
Not on a "repair" install, no. That's why it is the preferred option,
assuming problems can't be solved less destructively.
>--------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - -
Tech Support: The guys who follow the
'Parade of New Products' with a shovel.
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On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:11:52 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)"
<cquirkenews[ at ]nospam.mvps.org> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:26:45 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> >That's not correct. If you reinstall Windows (correctly), *everything*
> >that was on the drive is lost.
>
> Not on a "repair" install, no.
Although that's correct, he said he reinstalled Windows, not that he
did a repair installation. My assumption *might* be wrong in this
case, but when someone says reinstall without using the word "repair,"
I always assume he means a clean installation. If he meant a repair
installation, then he should have made it much clearer.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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If they were erased you could try finalrecovery it can resore some
erased files.
john
Desperate-Glen wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Hi!..Thanks for your time!...I need help from you guys BADLY!!!
>
> My partner had her last years business financial accounts for
> 2006-2007...(done in ms works v7 spreadsheets) in her "my documents"
> folder!...
>
> she originally had some Problems with her computer so had to reload xp pro!
> I then find out that she had these account files saved in her "my documents"
> folder!..of all places!!!!!!!
>
> I've gone to look for them ..but they've dissappeared!...There are a couple
> of folders in "my documents", that have useless info in them from before her
> xp pro reload...but all her financial records which were in the "my
> documents" root have gone!
>
> I remember reading somewhere that if xp pro is reloaded that the "my
> documents" is not touched!...but in this case it has been!...please correct
> me if i'm wrong!
>
> Because there is ome useless info is in these folders inside the "my
> documents" folder I am certain that these "financial account files" in "my
> documents" root are still there...but are not displayed (hidden)
>
> There is also no "restore file"...so I don't know what to do!
>
> Can any of you experts recommend a way to make these account files
> visible...or...be able to extract them?
>
> Is there some software that can do this?
>
> Otherwise it could take months to re-data entry the figures for thefull
> financial year!
>
> Thanks heaps because I'm absolutely lost!....& it’s tax time!
> Glen
>
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Active File Recovery is another sofware for bringing back deleted files but
it's not going to help if you have written over the space it was saved since
it was deleted.
"Desperate-Glen" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Hi!..Thanks for your time!...I need help from you guys BADLY!!!
>
> My partner had her last years business financial accounts for
> 2006-2007...(done in ms works v7 spreadsheets) in her "my documents"
> folder!...
>
> she originally had some Problems with her computer so had to reload xp pro!
> I then find out that she had these account files saved in her "my documents"
> folder!..of all places!!!!!!!
>
> I've gone to look for them ..but they've dissappeared!...There are a couple
> of folders in "my documents", that have useless info in them from before her
> xp pro reload...but all her financial records which were in the "my
> documents" root have gone!
>
> I remember reading somewhere that if xp pro is reloaded that the "my
> documents" is not touched!...but in this case it has been!...please correct
> me if i'm wrong!
>
> Because there is ome useless info is in these folders inside the "my
> documents" folder I am certain that these "financial account files" in "my
> documents" root are still there...but are not displayed (hidden)
>
> There is also no "restore file"...so I don't know what to do!
>
> Can any of you experts recommend a way to make these account files
> visible...or...be able to extract them?
>
> Is there some software that can do this?
>
> Otherwise it could take months to re-data entry the figures for thefull
> financial year!
>
> Thanks heaps because I'm absolutely lost!....& it’s tax time!
> Glen
>
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You guys are fantastic!!!!!!!!!
OK I've read your replys & advice!
sorry for late reply
After Ken's reply...I went over to look at her computer!
After cquirke's reply...I again went back to look over her computer!
Now ..Jayne (my girlfriend) said ""she did a re-install""!
Looking at it...it looks like she's done ..."a repair"!
as "documents & settings" folder has the following!
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all users (52mb) 2-9-05........original install
default user (1.5mb) 2-9-05........original install
administrator (3.5mb) 27-5-07........upgraded from xp home to xp pro....no
probs
client (5gb) 30-6-07........????
all users.windows (52mb) 1-7-07........her so-called new re-install
default user.windows (1mb) 1-7-07........her so-called new re-install
jayne (4.3gb) 2-7-07........she said added this?...I didn't know!
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Your correct Ken!..."there's a possibility that the files may exist
somewhere."
Your correct cquirke "But with a repair install, your files are not wiped,
only mislaid"
The addition of ".windows" to the accounts (with dates) shows that it was a
repair!!!!!..as you said cquirke!
The user accounts ...only shows 2 accounts
1) Jayne (administrator)
2) guest (turned off)
mmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!
Taking cquirkes info....about permissions i
Ive changed guest to on...logged back in!
Yehaaaa!!!...found them!...they're there in client!!!....(size difference
bewteen jayne & client, 4.3gb to 5 gb..the 700mb are the files)
man that's a load off my mind & girlfriends!!!!!!!!!!!
mmmm.....I think i should get rid of some unwanted acounts in the "documents
& settings" folder.....so this doesn't happen again...
Can i just delete the un wanted ones?
oh ! by the way!
Something i noticed during the startup sequence (my girlfriend has said that
it has always had this startup problem):
start screen...
then next screen shows..........
microsoft windows xp pro (if i click this xp loads normally)
microsoft windows xp pro (if i click this it says hal.dll corrupted..restart)
(also shows up/down arrows to choose & a count down timer)
*If timer counts down then it'll load xp.normally
then next screen is dark
then next screen is absolutely blank
then next screen is dark
then desktop
why does the screen show "microsoft windows xp pro" twice?
is because of xp has been installed more than once?
how do you get rid of this problem so that you dont have to wait for the
timer to count down or click the top "microsoft windows xp pro" link in order
to keep loading windows
thanks heaps!!!!
Ken!....you were right to lecture me!!....taken your advice & am searching
for backup hard drives as we speak!....AND THANKS HEAPS!!
cquirke! ...THANKS HEAPS!!
U 2 guys have helped me more than u know. I'm so gratefull!
John, eracer....had a look at these!...also "encase"....under some serious
consideration....thanks for you advice!
"Desperate-Glen" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Hi!..Thanks for your time!...I need help from you guys BADLY!!!
>
> My partner had her last years business financial accounts for
> 2006-2007...(done in ms works v7 spreadsheets) in her "my documents"
> folder!...
>
> she originally had some Problems with her computer so had to reload xp pro!
> I then find out that she had these account files saved in her "my documents"
> folder!..of all places!!!!!!!
>
> I've gone to look for them ..but they've dissappeared!...There are a couple
> of folders in "my documents", that have useless info in them from before her
> xp pro reload...but all her financial records which were in the "my
> documents" root have gone!
>
> I remember reading somewhere that if xp pro is reloaded that the "my
> documents" is not touched!...but in this case it has been!...please correct
> me if i'm wrong!
>
> Because there is ome useless info is in these folders inside the "my
> documents" folder I am certain that these "financial account files" in "my
> documents" root are still there...but are not displayed (hidden)
>
> There is also no "restore file"...so I don't know what to do!
>
> Can any of you experts recommend a way to make these account files
> visible...or...be able to extract them?
>
> Is there some software that can do this?
>
> Otherwise it could take months to re-data entry the figures for thefull
> financial year!
>
> Thanks heaps because I'm absolutely lost!....& it’s tax time!
> Glen
>
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On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:42:45 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
[Quoted Text] >On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:11:52 +0200, "cquirke"
>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:26:45 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
>> >That's not correct. If you reinstall Windows (correctly), *everything*
>> >that was on the drive is lost.
>> Not on a "repair" install, no.
>Although that's correct, he said he reinstalled Windows, not that he
>did a repair installation. My assumption *might* be wrong in this
>case, but when someone says reinstall without using the word "repair,"
>I always assume he means a clean installation.
With me, it's the opposite; I don't assume someone's wiped the system
unless they say so (e.g. "format and re-install" vs. "re-install").
Both of us are guessing, which is why I asked for more info.
I certainly would not encourage destructive rebuilding, as the comment
"If you reinstall Windows (correctly), *everything* that was on the
drive is lost" for a number of reasons, including that not all systems
are "owned" by a single OS installation.
>--------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - -
Never turn your back on an installer program
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 21:38:02 -0700, Desperate-Glen
[Quoted Text] >You guys are fantastic!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
>Now ..Jayne (my girlfriend) said ""she did a re-install""!
>Looking at it...it looks like she's done ..."a repair"!
<whew> ...that was close. Did she say what prompted her to do it?
>as "documents & settings" folder has the following!
>------------------
>all users (52mb) 2-9-05........original install
>default user (1.5mb) 2-9-05........original install
>administrator (3.5mb) 27-5-07........upgraded xp home to xp pro....no probs
Interesting date, though...
>client (5gb) 30-6-07........????
>all users.windows (52mb) 1-7-07........her so-called new re-install
>default user.windows (1mb) 1-7-07........her so-called new re-install
>jayne (4.3gb) 2-7-07........she said added this?...I didn't know!
>--------------
>The user accounts ...only shows 2 accounts
>1) Jayne (administrator)
>2) guest (turned off)
>mmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!
OK... Guest won't have a profile then (in fact, it may use a temporary
one even when it is enabled, I dunno). They will be:
all users (52mb) 2-9-05 -> not referenced
default user (1.5mb) 2-9-05 -> not referenced
administrator (3.5mb) 27-5-07 -> used by Safe Mode
client (5gb) 30-6-07 -> not referenced, looks big; bingo?
all users.windows (52mb) 1-7-07 -> used as "shared" settings
default user.windows (1mb) 1-7-07 -> used as new account prototype
jayne (4.3gb) 2-7-07 -> used as current account "Jayne"
>Yehaaaa!!!...found them!...they're there in client!!!....(size difference
>bewteen jayne & client, 4.3gb to 5 gb..the 700mb are the files)
>man that's a load off my mind & girlfriends!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah - so did the install process find and copy in 4.3G of the 5G
original material? That's interesting, if so - else I was wondering
how one can rack up 4G+ data in a few days...
>mmmm.....I think i should get rid of some unwanted acounts in the "documents
>& settings" folder.....so this doesn't happen again...
>Can i just delete the un wanted ones?
"Never delete what you can rename away or comment out" is my motto, so
first I'd copy them somewhere else in the file system, such as C:\OLD,
and then delete the originals.
Unlike a Move or drag, this should not cause registry references to
track the change, and you can "undo" if problems arise.
If all is well, then if there's a corresponding user account,. I'd
delete that first, then I'd shutdown and restart, then if all is still
well, I'd delete the backup copy I didn't need.
But - be very careful you don't delete something you hadn't backed up
first! If you're going to delete only the "old" account subtrees that
don't currently appear as user accounts, then don't delete anything in
the user accounts section (such as "Jayne").
>Something i noticed during the startup sequence (my girlfriend has said that
>it has always had this startup problem):
>start screen...
>then next screen shows..........
>microsoft windows xp pro (if i click this xp loads normally)
>microsoft windows xp pro (if i click this it says hal.dll corrupted..restart)
OK, looks like the HD was in a different PC, perhaps (incorrect
Hardware Abstraction Layer, aka "HAL") or more likely the second
reference points to an OS installation that has been removed. "Bad
HAL" is often what you see in that context, rather like someone saying
"I can't find my car lighter" when their car's been stolen :-)
You could remove the second instance from C:\Boot.ini, but once again,
be careful; save the file with a different name first, etc.
>(also shows up/down arrows to choose & a count down timer)
OK. What you are looking at is a menu defined in C:\Boot.ini, as
interpreted by C:\NTLDR, which is the first OS file that loads.
>*If timer counts down then it'll load xp.normally
>then next screen is dark
>then next screen is absolutely blank
>then next screen is dark
Er... what's the difference between "dark" and "absolutely blank"? Is
the latter where the monitor is suspended?
>then desktop
>why does the screen show "microsoft windows xp pro" twice?
As above - there are two entries in C:\Boot.ini, and only one works.
This will do far less harm than botched attempts to clean it up, so
I'd be quite tempted to leave it as it is :-)
> is because of xp has been installed more than once?
Probably...
>how do you get rid of this problem so that you dont have to wait for the
>timer to count down
Set the timeout value to a shorter time, e.g. from 30 to 5 (seconds),
as seen when you enter Boot.ini directly, or via MSConfig.
>or click the top "microsoft windows xp pro" link in order
>to keep loading windows
You can press Enter at that point, to speed it up.
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hi! thanks fro your extended input!
<whew> ...that was close. Did she say what prompted her to do it?
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something to do with the dvd reader/burner......of all things!!!...its +R!!
I told her would have been easier just to buy a new one (that burns/reads
everything)....she's not afraid to have ago!
<>Ah - so did the install process find and copy in 4.3G of the 5G
original material? That's interesting, if so - else I was wondering
how one can rack up 4G+ data in a few days...
No Jayne said she added that user & reinstalled a lot of her materials she
had on cd (not what we needed...unfortunately)
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I follow your advice with users
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<>OK, looks like the HD was in a different PC, perhaps (incorrect
Hardware Abstraction Layer, aka "HAL") or more likely the second
reference points to an OS installation that has been removed. "Bad
HAL" is often what you see in that context, rather like someone saying
"I can't find my car lighter" when their car's been stolen :-)
You could remove the second instance from C:\Boot.ini, but once again,
be careful; save the file with a different name first, etc.
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mmmm... wouldn't it be the first instance since thats the one which is read
first in C:\Boot.ini..?
<>Er... what's the difference between "dark" and "absolutely blank"? Is
the latter where the monitor is suspended?
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?????..just 2 different colours of black....dont know why!
thanks & cheers!..will let u know how it goes
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"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 21:38:02 -0700, Desperate-Glen
>
> >You guys are fantastic!!!!!!!!!
>
> Thanks!
>
> >Now ..Jayne (my girlfriend) said ""she did a re-install""!
> >Looking at it...it looks like she's done ..."a repair"!
>
> <whew> ...that was close. Did she say what prompted her to do it?
>
> >as "documents & settings" folder has the following!
> >------------------
> >all users (52mb) 2-9-05........original install
> >default user (1.5mb) 2-9-05........original install
> >administrator (3.5mb) 27-5-07........upgraded xp home to xp pro....no probs
>
> Interesting date, though...
>
> >client (5gb) 30-6-07........????
> >all users.windows (52mb) 1-7-07........her so-called new re-install
> >default user.windows (1mb) 1-7-07........her so-called new re-install
> >jayne (4.3gb) 2-7-07........she said added this?...I didn't know!
> >--------------
>
> >The user accounts ...only shows 2 accounts
> >1) Jayne (administrator)
> >2) guest (turned off)
>
> >mmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> OK... Guest won't have a profile then (in fact, it may use a temporary
> one even when it is enabled, I dunno). They will be:
>
> all users (52mb) 2-9-05 -> not referenced
> default user (1.5mb) 2-9-05 -> not referenced
> administrator (3.5mb) 27-5-07 -> used by Safe Mode
> client (5gb) 30-6-07 -> not referenced, looks big; bingo?
> all users.windows (52mb) 1-7-07 -> used as "shared" settings
> default user.windows (1mb) 1-7-07 -> used as new account prototype
> jayne (4.3gb) 2-7-07 -> used as current account "Jayne"
>
> >Yehaaaa!!!...found them!...they're there in client!!!....(size difference
> >bewteen jayne & client, 4.3gb to 5 gb..the 700mb are the files)
> >man that's a load off my mind & girlfriends!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Ah - so did the install process find and copy in 4.3G of the 5G
> original material? That's interesting, if so - else I was wondering
> how one can rack up 4G+ data in a few days...
>
> >mmmm.....I think i should get rid of some unwanted acounts in the "documents
> >& settings" folder.....so this doesn't happen again...
> >Can i just delete the un wanted ones?
>
> "Never delete what you can rename away or comment out" is my motto, so
> first I'd copy them somewhere else in the file system, such as C:\OLD,
> and then delete the originals.
>
> Unlike a Move or drag, this should not cause registry references to
> track the change, and you can "undo" if problems arise.
>
> If all is well, then if there's a corresponding user account,. I'd
> delete that first, then I'd shutdown and restart, then if all is still
> well, I'd delete the backup copy I didn't need.
>
> But - be very careful you don't delete something you hadn't backed up
> first! If you're going to delete only the "old" account subtrees that
> don't currently appear as user accounts, then don't delete anything in
> the user accounts section (such as "Jayne").
>
> >Something i noticed during the startup sequence (my girlfriend has said that
> >it has always had this startup problem):
> >start screen...
> >then next screen shows..........
>
> >microsoft windows xp pro (if i click this xp loads normally)
> >microsoft windows xp pro (if i click this it says hal.dll corrupted..restart)
>
> OK, looks like the HD was in a different PC, perhaps (incorrect
> Hardware Abstraction Layer, aka "HAL") or more likely the second
> reference points to an OS installation that has been removed. "Bad
> HAL" is often what you see in that context, rather like someone saying
> "I can't find my car lighter" when their car's been stolen :-)
>
> You could remove the second instance from C:\Boot.ini, but once again,
> be careful; save the file with a different name first, etc.
>
> >(also shows up/down arrows to choose & a count down timer)
>
> OK. What you are looking at is a menu defined in C:\Boot.ini, as
> interpreted by C:\NTLDR, which is the first OS file that loads.
>
> >*If timer counts down then it'll load xp.normally
> >then next screen is dark
> >then next screen is absolutely blank
> >then next screen is dark
>
> Er... what's the difference between "dark" and "absolutely blank"? Is
> the latter where the monitor is suspended?
>
> >then desktop
>
> >why does the screen show "microsoft windows xp pro" twice?
>
> As above - there are two entries in C:\Boot.ini, and only one works.
> This will do far less harm than botched attempts to clean it up, so
> I'd be quite tempted to leave it as it is :-)
>
> > is because of xp has been installed more than once?
>
> Probably...
>
> >how do you get rid of this problem so that you dont have to wait for the
> >timer to count down
>
> Set the timeout value to a shorter time, e.g. from 30 to 5 (seconds),
> as seen when you enter Boot.ini directly, or via MSConfig.
>
> >or click the top "microsoft windows xp pro" link in order
> >to keep loading windows
>
> You can press Enter at that point, to speed it up.
>
>
>
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