WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com 17.06.2007 12:08:52 Hi.I want to take source an mms link and restream it.. exable source: mms://10.0.0.3:1234 and not source one tv tuner etc etc i want multimedia source...is that possible?

Re: WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil[ at ]nospam.com> 18.06.2007 21:34:19 On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:08:52 -0700, skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com wrote: [Quoted Text] >Hi.I want to take source an mms link and restream it.. > >exable >source: mms://10.0.0.3:1234 and not source one tv tuner etc etc > >i want multimedia source...is that possible? Windows media encoder does not support mms streaming, it uses http. To re-stream an existing live stream, you would want to operate windows media services, which is a component of windows server 2003 (you would want any version *apart* from the web version of windows server). WMS provides the lpp:// protocol name to re-stream from another media server to clients running media player. HTH Cheers - Neil ------------------------------------------------ Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs

Re: WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com 19.06.2007 13:02:13 So my server should be windows server 2003 and then install there windows media services?where can i find windows media services to download them? can i select there in how many kbps i want to stream? so i will get input mms or http and output would be lpp://ip:port windows media player can play lpp:// ?? thank you!! Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] : [Quoted Text] > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:08:52 -0700, skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com wrote: > > >Hi.I want to take source an mms link and restream it.. > > > >exable > >source: mms://10.0.0.3:1234 and not source one tv tuner etc etc > > > >i want multimedia source...is that possible? > > > Windows media encoder does not support mms streaming, it uses http. > > To re-stream an existing live stream, you would want to operate > windows media services, which is a component of windows server 2003 > (you would want any version *apart* from the web version of windows > server). > > WMS provides the lpp:// protocol name to re-stream from another media > server to clients running media player. > > HTH > Cheers - Neil > ------------------------------------------------ > Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs

Re: WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil[ at ]nospam.com> 19.06.2007 20:57:08 Windows media services is one of the server options, you would enable that under the "Configure my server" wizard. There is no download required - as I said, avoid the web edition of WS2003 because that option is not available even for download You can definitely select how many kbps per stream for the entire server, or per publishing point (i.e for each mms://server/streamname) You can input http or rtsp and re-steam it, the lpp:// protocol is used in a server playlist, and connects to an incoming steam source or internally to another publishing point without sending then receiving the stream When you install the streaming media server, all this is covered in the built-in help files. HTH Cheers - Neil On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:02:13 -0700, skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com wrote: [Quoted Text] >So my server should be windows server 2003 and then install there >windows media services?where can i find windows media services to >download them? can i select there in how many kbps i want to stream? > >so i will get input mms or http and output would be lpp://ip:port > >windows media player can play lpp:// ?? > >thank you!! > > > Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] : >> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:08:52 -0700, skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com wrote: >> >> >Hi.I want to take source an mms link and restream it.. >> > >> >exable >> >source: mms://10.0.0.3:1234 and not source one tv tuner etc etc >> > >> >i want multimedia source...is that possible? >> >> >> Windows media encoder does not support mms streaming, it uses http. >> >> To re-stream an existing live stream, you would want to operate >> windows media services, which is a component of windows server 2003 >> (you would want any version *apart* from the web version of windows >> server). >> >> WMS provides the lpp:// protocol name to re-stream from another media >> server to clients running media player. >> >> HTH >> Cheers - Neil >> ------------------------------------------------ >> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007 >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs ------------------------------------------------ Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs

Re: WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com 20.06.2007 06:47:38 On Jun 19, 11:57 pm, "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <n...[ at ]nospam.com> wrote: [Quoted Text] > Windows media services is one of the server options, you would enable > that under the "Configure my server" wizard. There is no download > required - as I said, avoid the web edition of WS2003 because that > option is not available even for download > > You can definitely select how many kbps per stream for the entire > server, or per publishing point (i.e for each mms://server/streamname) > > You can input http or rtsp and re-steam it, the lpp:// protocol is > used in a server playlist, and connects to an incoming steam source or > internally to another publishing point without sending then receiving > the stream > > When you install the streaming media server, all this is covered in > the built-in help files. > > HTH > Cheers - Neil > > > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:02:13 -0700, skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com wrote: > >So my server should be windows server 2003 and then install there > >windows media services?where can i find windows media services to > >download them? can i select there in how many kbps i want to stream? > > >so i will get input mms or http and output would be lpp://ip:port > > >windows media player can play lpp:// ?? > > >thank you!! > > > Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] : > >> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:08:52 -0700, skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com wrote: > > >> >Hi.I want to take source an mms link and restream it.. > > >> >exable > >> >source: mms://10.0.0.3:1234 and not source one tv tuner etc etc > > >> >i want multimedia source...is that possible? > > >> Windows media encoder does not support mms streaming, it uses http. > > >> To re-stream an existing live stream, you would want to operate > >> windows media services, which is a component of windows server 2003 > >> (you would want any version *apart* from the web version of windows > >> server). > > >> WMS provides the lpp:// protocol name to re-stream from another media > >> server to clients running media player. > > >> HTH > >> Cheers - Neil > >> ------------------------------------------------ > >> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007 > >>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs > > ------------------------------------------------ > Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs Thank you.I instaled windows 2003 server in one of my PCs in order to make it work and then rent a server!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH.. email me your msn if you want to talk..

Re: WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com 20.06.2007 06:56:17 On Jun 20, 9:47 am, skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com wrote: [Quoted Text] > On Jun 19, 11:57 pm, "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" > > > > <n...[ at ]nospam.com> wrote: > > Windows media services is one of the server options, you would enable > > that under the "Configure my server" wizard. There is no download > > required - as I said, avoid the web edition of WS2003 because that > > option is not available even for download > > > You can definitely select how many kbps per stream for the entire > > server, or per publishing point (i.e for each mms://server/streamname) > > > You can input http or rtsp and re-steam it, the lpp:// protocol is > > used in a server playlist, and connects to an incoming steam source or > > internally to another publishing point without sending then receiving > > the stream > > > When you install the streaming media server, all this is covered in > > the built-in help files. > > > HTH > > Cheers - Neil > > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:02:13 -0700, skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com wrote: > > >So my server should be windows server 2003 and then install there > > >windows media services?where can i find windows media services to > > >download them? can i select there in how many kbps i want to stream? > > > >so i will get input mms or http and output would be lpp://ip:port > > > >windows media player can play lpp:// ?? > > > >thank you!! > > > > Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] : > > >> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:08:52 -0700, skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com wrote: > > > >> >Hi.I want to take source an mms link and restream it.. > > > >> >exable > > >> >source: mms://10.0.0.3:1234 and not source one tv tuner etc etc > > > >> >i want multimedia source...is that possible? > > > >> Windows media encoder does not support mms streaming, it uses http. > > > >> To re-stream an existing live stream, you would want to operate > > >> windows media services, which is a component of windows server 2003 > > >> (you would want any version *apart* from the web version of windows > > >> server). > > > >> WMS provides the lpp:// protocol name to re-stream from another media > > >> server to clients running media player. > > > >> HTH > > >> Cheers - Neil > > >> ------------------------------------------------ > > >> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007 > > >>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs > > Thank you.I instaled windows 2003 server in one of my PCs in order to > make it work and then rent a server!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH.. > email me your msn if you want to talk.. one more question....it does not need to know about lpp:// if i want to take http in put and have http output right?

Re: WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com 20.06.2007 19:21:09 also..are there any plugins in order to have authentication to the people who will connect to the stream? i see theres an authentiation system but for people only in group Skatapantou( (in localhost).... are there any plugins for that? i would like to find more plugins and see what i can do with them ;) not just for authentication..but for anything.. skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com : [Quoted Text] > On Jun 20, 9:47 am, skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com wrote: > > On Jun 19, 11:57 pm, "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" > > > > > > > > <n...[ at ]nospam.com> wrote: > > > Windows media services is one of the server options, you would enable > > > that under the "Configure my server" wizard. There is no download > > > required - as I said, avoid the web edition of WS2003 because that > > > option is not available even for download > > > > > You can definitely select how many kbps per stream for the entire > > > server, or per publishing point (i.e for each mms://server/streamname) > > > > > You can input http or rtsp and re-steam it, the lpp:// protocol is > > > used in a server playlist, and connects to an incoming steam source or > > > internally to another publishing point without sending then receiving > > > the stream > > > > > When you install the streaming media server, all this is covered in > > > the built-in help files. > > > > > HTH > > > Cheers - Neil > > > > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:02:13 -0700, skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com wrote: > > > >So my server should be windows server 2003 and then install there > > > >windows media services?where can i find windows media services to > > > >download them? can i select there in how many kbps i want to stream? > > > > > >so i will get input mms or http and output would be lpp://ip:port > > > > > >windows media player can play lpp:// ?? > > > > > >thank you!! > > > > > > Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] : > > > >> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:08:52 -0700, skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com wrote: > > > > > >> >Hi.I want to take source an mms link and restream it.. > > > > > >> >exable > > > >> >source: mms://10.0.0.3:1234 and not source one tv tuner etc etc > > > > > >> >i want multimedia source...is that possible? > > > > > >> Windows media encoder does not support mms streaming, it uses http. > > > > > >> To re-stream an existing live stream, you would want to operate > > > >> windows media services, which is a component of windows server 2003 > > > >> (you would want any version *apart* from the web version of windows > > > >> server). > > > > > >> WMS provides the lpp:// protocol name to re-stream from another media > > > >> server to clients running media player. > > > > > >> HTH > > > >> Cheers - Neil > > > >> ------------------------------------------------ > > > >> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007 > > > >>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs > > > > Thank you.I instaled windows 2003 server in one of my PCs in order to > > make it work and then rent a server!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH.. > > email me your msn if you want to talk.. > > one more question....it does not need to know about lpp:// if i want > to take http in put and have http output right?

Re: WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil[ at ]nospam.com> 20.06.2007 21:18:26 On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:56:17 -0000, skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com wrote: [Quoted Text] >> Thank you.I instaled windows 2003 server in one of my PCs in order to >> make it work and then rent a server!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH.. >> email me your msn if you want to talk.. > >one more question....it does not need to know about lpp:// if i want >to take http in put and have http output right? Yes, correct - you may choose the source of a publishing point http. LPP protocol is used to create a second publishing point in a server to reduce buffering and connection lag. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/server/faq.aspx#3_2 and see http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms753558.aspx Using a second publishing point to broadcast the data with the lpp:// source set to the one connected to the remote server is one way to reduce this issue. But try to avoid rtsp (especially rtspu). The reason is that http uses TCP and "reliable transport" so that your streaming server may request the remote streaming server to retransmit if there is loss of data. If that lost data is passed on to the media player, it may make for a bad experience, possibly missing audio or video. Data loss is possible using UDP connections, and the lost data cannot be recovered - so if you are archiving a stream to a file as well as broadcasting it out, you will find the archived file is permanently incorrect. HTH Cheers - Neil ------------------------------------------------ Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs

Re: WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com 21.06.2007 05:19:01 Thank you Neil...Also i am trying to get input a stream(http) from vlc(videolan org) but service cannot start in wms!! Then i sselected in vlc output video WMV2 and sound output mp3...i tryed it again but wms cannot start :( PS are there any plugins to download in order to add authentication to my streams?(something like drm)

Re: WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com 25.06.2007 08:28:24 anybody knows???? skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com : [Quoted Text] > Thank you Neil...Also i am trying to get input a stream(http) from > vlc(videolan org) but service cannot start in wms!! > Then i sselected in vlc output video WMV2 and sound output mp3...i > tryed it again but wms cannot start :( > > PS are there any plugins to download in order to add authentication to > my streams?(something like drm)

Re: WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING skatapantou <skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com> 26.06.2007 22:59:05 bumb skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com : [Quoted Text] > anybody knows???? > skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com : > > Thank you Neil...Also i am trying to get input a stream(http) from > > vlc(videolan org) but service cannot start in wms!! > > Then i sselected in vlc output video WMV2 and sound output mp3...i > > tryed it again but wms cannot start :( > > > > PS are there any plugins to download in order to add authentication to > > my streams?(something like drm)

Re: WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING "Mike Lowery" <selfspam[ at ]mouse-potato.com> 27.06.2007 14:22:15 Antagonist! "skatapantou" <skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message news:1182898745.884746.181690[ at ]q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... [Quoted Text] > bumb > skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com : >> anybody knows???? >> skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com : >> > Thank you Neil...Also i am trying to get input a stream(http) from >> > vlc(videolan org) but service cannot start in wms!! >> > Then i sselected in vlc output video WMV2 and sound output mp3...i >> > tryed it again but wms cannot start :( >> > >> > PS are there any plugins to download in order to add authentication to >> > my streams?(something like drm) >

Re: WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING skatapantou <skatapantou[ at ]gmail.com> 29.06.2007 08:23:17 On Jun 27, 5:22 pm, "Mike Lowery" <selfs...[ at ]mouse-potato.com> wrote: [Quoted Text] > Antagonist! > > "skatapantou" <skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1182898745.884746.181690[ at ]q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > bumb > > skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com : > >> anybody knows???? > >> skatapan...[ at ]gmail.com : > >> > Thank you Neil...Also i am trying to get input a stream(http) from > >> > vlc(videolan org) but service cannot start in wms!! > >> > Then i sselected in vlc output video WMV2 and sound output mp3...i > >> > tryed it again but wms cannot start :( > > >> > PS are there any plugins to download in order to add authentication to > >> > my streams?(something like drm) what?