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Hi there,
I have a network with SBS 2003 running on it and that is the only server.
We have another SBS 2003 server that we want to add to the network as a file
server only. Is this possible? I know that you can't have 2 SBS servers on
the domain, but can you have 2 on the same LAN?
Could I set the second one up as a new domain and then mirror permissions
(user/pass) or is it possible to not have a SBS 2003 server as a domain
controller or even on a domain?
Cliff notes:
Need 2 SBS servers on the same LAN so customers can access both. Possible?
Thanks in advance everyone! :)
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You bought the wrong software. Why not Windows Server 2003 as the 2nd
server?
"Bill" <Bill[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F891C8BC-2FC4-4EE3-8C54-A3E664DB629E[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hi there,
>
> I have a network with SBS 2003 running on it and that is the only server.
> We have another SBS 2003 server that we want to add to the network as a
> file
> server only. Is this possible? I know that you can't have 2 SBS servers
> on
> the domain, but can you have 2 on the same LAN?
>
> Could I set the second one up as a new domain and then mirror permissions
> (user/pass) or is it possible to not have a SBS 2003 server as a domain
> controller or even on a domain?
>
> Cliff notes:
> Need 2 SBS servers on the same LAN so customers can access both. Possible?
>
> Thanks in advance everyone! :)
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SBS -must be- the root of forest in a single domain with no sub-domains and
cannot do trusts.
So, yes you can have 2 SBServers on the LAN in different subnets and use
Pass Through Authentication
( Same User details and passphrases in each ) That however means 2 Sets of
CALs and double the maintenance which IMHO in TCO terms isn't worth what you
think you are saving in not buying Windows Server.
--
Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
"Bill" <Bill[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F891C8BC-2FC4-4EE3-8C54-A3E664DB629E[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hi there,
>
> I have a network with SBS 2003 running on it and that is the only server.
> We have another SBS 2003 server that we want to add to the network as a
> file
> server only. Is this possible? I know that you can't have 2 SBS servers
> on
> the domain, but can you have 2 on the same LAN?
>
> Could I set the second one up as a new domain and then mirror permissions
> (user/pass) or is it possible to not have a SBS 2003 server as a domain
> controller or even on a domain?
>
> Cliff notes:
> Need 2 SBS servers on the same LAN so customers can access both. Possible?
>
> Thanks in advance everyone! :)
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Thanks for the quick response.
Yeah the customer bought the wrong software and they're stuck with it now,
that is why we're trying to make this work...
"Steve" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > You bought the wrong software. Why not Windows Server 2003 as the 2nd
> server?
>
> "Bill" <Bill[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F891C8BC-2FC4-4EE3-8C54-A3E664DB629E[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have a network with SBS 2003 running on it and that is the only server.
> > We have another SBS 2003 server that we want to add to the network as a
> > file
> > server only. Is this possible? I know that you can't have 2 SBS servers
> > on
> > the domain, but can you have 2 on the same LAN?
> >
> > Could I set the second one up as a new domain and then mirror permissions
> > (user/pass) or is it possible to not have a SBS 2003 server as a domain
> > controller or even on a domain?
> >
> > Cliff notes:
> > Need 2 SBS servers on the same LAN so customers can access both. Possible?
> >
> > Thanks in advance everyone! :)
>
>
>
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Thanks for the quick response.
So they have to be on different subnets as well? I mean I couldn't turn
DHCP off?
Thanks!
BB
"Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > SBS -must be- the root of forest in a single domain with no sub-domains and
> cannot do trusts.
>
> So, yes you can have 2 SBServers on the LAN in different subnets and use
> Pass Through Authentication
> ( Same User details and passphrases in each ) That however means 2 Sets of
> CALs and double the maintenance which IMHO in TCO terms isn't worth what you
> think you are saving in not buying Windows Server.
>
> --
> Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
>
>
> "Bill" <Bill[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F891C8BC-2FC4-4EE3-8C54-A3E664DB629E[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have a network with SBS 2003 running on it and that is the only server.
> > We have another SBS 2003 server that we want to add to the network as a
> > file
> > server only. Is this possible? I know that you can't have 2 SBS servers
> > on
> > the domain, but can you have 2 on the same LAN?
> >
> > Could I set the second one up as a new domain and then mirror permissions
> > (user/pass) or is it possible to not have a SBS 2003 server as a domain
> > controller or even on a domain?
> >
> > Cliff notes:
> > Need 2 SBS servers on the same LAN so customers can access both. Possible?
> >
> > Thanks in advance everyone! :)
>
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Bill wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Thanks for the quick response.
>
> Yeah the customer bought the wrong software and they're stuck with it
> now, that is why we're trying to make this work...
It'll always be a kludge, a nightmare to admin and maintain. Nothing but
trouble for you and them.
Did they buy OEM, or Retail? (Know anybody needing a new SBS server at a
smoking good price? )
Find a way to get them the right software (std) properly installed. It'll
save them in the long run.
>
> "Steve" wrote:
>
>> You bought the wrong software. Why not Windows Server 2003 as the 2nd
>> server?
>>
>> "Bill" <Bill[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F891C8BC-2FC4-4EE3-8C54-A3E664DB629E[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I have a network with SBS 2003 running on it and that is the only
>>> server. We have another SBS 2003 server that we want to add to the
>>> network as a file
>>> server only. Is this possible? I know that you can't have 2 SBS
>>> servers on
>>> the domain, but can you have 2 on the same LAN?
>>>
>>> Could I set the second one up as a new domain and then mirror
>>> permissions (user/pass) or is it possible to not have a SBS 2003
>>> server as a domain controller or even on a domain?
>>>
>>> Cliff notes:
>>> Need 2 SBS servers on the same LAN so customers can access both.
>>> Possible?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance everyone! :)
--
/kj
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hi Bill,
Yes, they need to be in different subnets. The PC clients will have to be
'rooted' to only 1 SBS at any one moment, and they will be looking to one
SBS for DNS resolution. It's possible to access the other SBS through
a couple of ways, but then it comes down to, what are they trying to do
with the 2nd server - purpose?
It's also much easier to just administer 1 box than 2.
Eugene Tan
==========================
"Bill" <Bill[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:801C2B73-5BEB-488B-98FD-CCFD565DCD30[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Thanks for the quick response.
>
> So they have to be on different subnets as well? I mean I couldn't turn
> DHCP off?
>
> Thanks!
> BB
>
> "Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}" wrote:
>
>> SBS -must be- the root of forest in a single domain with no sub-domains
>> and
>> cannot do trusts.
>>
>> So, yes you can have 2 SBServers on the LAN in different subnets and use
>> Pass Through Authentication
>> ( Same User details and passphrases in each ) That however means 2 Sets
>> of
>> CALs and double the maintenance which IMHO in TCO terms isn't worth what
>> you
>> think you are saving in not buying Windows Server.
>>
>> --
>> Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
>>
>>
>> "Bill" <Bill[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F891C8BC-2FC4-4EE3-8C54-A3E664DB629E[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> > I have a network with SBS 2003 running on it and that is the only
>> > server.
>> > We have another SBS 2003 server that we want to add to the network as a
>> > file
>> > server only. Is this possible? I know that you can't have 2 SBS
>> > servers
>> > on
>> > the domain, but can you have 2 on the same LAN?
>> >
>> > Could I set the second one up as a new domain and then mirror
>> > permissions
>> > (user/pass) or is it possible to not have a SBS 2003 server as a domain
>> > controller or even on a domain?
>> >
>> > Cliff notes:
>> > Need 2 SBS servers on the same LAN so customers can access both.
>> > Possible?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance everyone! :)
>>
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They do not have to be in different subnets and AFAIK if they are on the
same ethernet segment there is no advantage to running them in different
subnets.
"Eugene Tan" <TechHelp-at.insights.com.sg[ at ]newsgroups.nospam> wrote in
message news:u24xTBQxHHA.4076[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > hi Bill,
>
> Yes, they need to be in different subnets. The PC clients will have to be
> 'rooted' to only 1 SBS at any one moment, and they will be looking to one
> SBS for DNS resolution. It's possible to access the other SBS through
> a couple of ways, but then it comes down to, what are they trying to do
> with the 2nd server - purpose?
>
> It's also much easier to just administer 1 box than 2.
>
> Eugene Tan
>
> ==========================
> "Bill" <Bill[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:801C2B73-5BEB-488B-98FD-CCFD565DCD30[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> Thanks for the quick response.
>>
>> So they have to be on different subnets as well? I mean I couldn't turn
>> DHCP off?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> BB
>>
>> "Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}" wrote:
>>
>>> SBS -must be- the root of forest in a single domain with no sub-domains
>>> and
>>> cannot do trusts.
>>>
>>> So, yes you can have 2 SBServers on the LAN in different subnets and use
>>> Pass Through Authentication
>>> ( Same User details and passphrases in each ) That however means 2 Sets
>>> of
>>> CALs and double the maintenance which IMHO in TCO terms isn't worth what
>>> you
>>> think you are saving in not buying Windows Server.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill" <Bill[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:F891C8BC-2FC4-4EE3-8C54-A3E664DB629E[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> > Hi there,
>>> >
>>> > I have a network with SBS 2003 running on it and that is the only
>>> > server.
>>> > We have another SBS 2003 server that we want to add to the network as
>>> > a
>>> > file
>>> > server only. Is this possible? I know that you can't have 2 SBS
>>> > servers
>>> > on
>>> > the domain, but can you have 2 on the same LAN?
>>> >
>>> > Could I set the second one up as a new domain and then mirror
>>> > permissions
>>> > (user/pass) or is it possible to not have a SBS 2003 server as a
>>> > domain
>>> > controller or even on a domain?
>>> >
>>> > Cliff notes:
>>> > Need 2 SBS servers on the same LAN so customers can access both.
>>> > Possible?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks in advance everyone! :)
>>>
>
>
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