SBS 2003 -> SBS 2003 "MarvinEugene[ at ]gmail.com" <MarvinEugene[ at ]gmail.com> 25.06.2007 21:21:01 I know this topic has been posted several times...but, I need a different set of answers than what I've seen thus far. I'm looking for a way to upgrade servers. There's currently a SBS 2003 server in place in which we need to replace the hardware. So, basically, I need to be able to migrate data from one SBS 2k3 server to another. However, we dont have the resources to use the sbsmigration.com Swing IT! Kit. So, I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. Documentation would help. Even if it has to be pieced together. Basically, it's a migration of AD, DNS, Exchange, and data files...please help. I'm new to this and would really like to find whatever guidance I can. However, the budgeting isn't up to me so I have to work with what I have: the old server and the new one.

RE: SBS 2003 -> SBS 2003 BrianMultiLanguage 25.06.2007 21:35:02 How about this..(if it's not a lot of users) Have the users backup their email to psts. Stop Exchange on the old server. Load the new server and use a different subnet using the same name(s) as the old one. Build the news users and computers and file shares. Detach all pcs from old domain. Reattach the pcs to the new server and domain and restore the psts. Anybody else? "MarvinEugene[ at ]gmail.com" wrote: [Quoted Text] > I know this topic has been posted several times...but, I need a > different set of answers than what I've seen thus far. I'm looking for > a way to upgrade servers. There's currently a SBS 2003 server in place > in which we need to replace the hardware. So, basically, I need to be > able to migrate data from one SBS 2k3 server to another. However, we > dont have the resources to use the sbsmigration.com Swing IT! Kit. So, > I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. > Documentation would help. Even if it has to be pieced together. > Basically, it's a migration of AD, DNS, Exchange, and data > files...please help. I'm new to this and would really like to find > whatever guidance I can. However, the budgeting isn't up to me so I > have to work with what I have: the old server and the new one. > >

Re: SBS 2003 -> SBS 2003 "kj" <KevinJ.SBS[ at ]SPAMFREE.gmail.com> 25.06.2007 21:42:21 MarvinEugene[ at ]gmail.com wrote: [Quoted Text] > I know this topic has been posted several times...but, I need a > different set of answers than what I've seen thus far. I'm looking for > a way to upgrade servers. There's currently a SBS 2003 server in place > in which we need to replace the hardware. So, basically, I need to be > able to migrate data from one SBS 2k3 server to another. However, we > dont have the resources to use the sbsmigration.com Swing IT! Kit. So, > I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. > Documentation would help. Even if it has to be pieced together. > Basically, it's a migration of AD, DNS, Exchange, and data > files...please help. I'm new to this and would really like to find > whatever guidance I can. However, the budgeting isn't up to me so I > have to work with what I have: the old server and the new one. There really is only two sets of answers. sbsmigration and roll your own with some guidance from KB articles. Doing a one time, first time, your own way, will cost you many hours of labor and lots of frustrations including user 'dissatisfactions'. I guess the other way is to engage someone that has done it themselves before and likely has the reusable's from sbsmigration.com Even at minimum wage, the sbsmigration method will give you good ROI for a standard migration compared to the labor hours the manual method. -- /kj

Re: SBS 2003 -> SBS 2003 "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamhanna[ at ]computingnospampossibilities.net> 25.06.2007 21:49:21 I find it absolutely amazing that the business can afford a brand new server, but can't afford 200.00 for a tool that will make the whole thing painless and give you telephone/email support to boot. If thats the case, follow Brian's advise -- Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] ------------------------------------------------- Microsoft MVPs Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) Real World Answers --------------------------------------------------------- Please do not contact me directly regarding issues "BrianMultiLanguage" <BrianMultiLanguage[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:61378956-89C0-407F-BE61-8F65EB8FDA52[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > How about this..(if it's not a lot of users) > Have the users backup their email to psts. > Stop Exchange on the old server. > Load the new server and use a different subnet using the same name(s) as > the > old one. > Build the news users and computers and file shares. > Detach all pcs from old domain. > Reattach the pcs to the new server and domain and restore the psts. > > Anybody else? > > "MarvinEugene[ at ]gmail.com" wrote: > >> I know this topic has been posted several times...but, I need a >> different set of answers than what I've seen thus far. I'm looking for >> a way to upgrade servers. There's currently a SBS 2003 server in place >> in which we need to replace the hardware. So, basically, I need to be >> able to migrate data from one SBS 2k3 server to another. However, we >> dont have the resources to use the sbsmigration.com Swing IT! Kit. So, >> I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. >> Documentation would help. Even if it has to be pieced together. >> Basically, it's a migration of AD, DNS, Exchange, and data >> files...please help. I'm new to this and would really like to find >> whatever guidance I can. However, the budgeting isn't up to me so I >> have to work with what I have: the old server and the new one. >> >>

Re: SBS 2003 -> SBS 2003 "MarvinEugene[ at ]gmail.com" <MarvinEugene[ at ]gmail.com> 25.06.2007 22:21:55 On Jun 25, 4:49 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...[ at ]computingnospampossibilities.net> wrote: [Quoted Text] > I find it absolutely amazing that the business can afford a brand new > server, but can't afford 200.00 for a tool that will make the whole thing > painless and give you telephone/email support to boot. > > If thats the case, follow Brian's advise > > -- > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > ------------------------------------------------- > Microsoft MVPs > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > Real World Answers > --------------------------------------------------------- > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > "BrianMultiLanguage" <BrianMultiLangu...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > messagenews:61378956-89C0-407F-BE61-8F65EB8FDA52[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > How about this..(if it's not a lot of users) > > Have the users backup their email to psts. > > Stop Exchange on the old server. > > Load the new server and use a different subnet using the same name(s) as > > the > > old one. > > Build the news users and computers and file shares. > > Detach all pcs from old domain. > > Reattach the pcs to the new server and domain and restore the psts. > > > Anybody else? > > > "MarvinEug...[ at ]gmail.com" wrote: > > >> I know this topic has been posted several times...but, I need a > >> different set of answers than what I've seen thus far. I'm looking for > >> a way to upgrade servers. There's currently a SBS 2003 server in place > >> in which we need to replace the hardware. So, basically, I need to be > >> able to migrate data from one SBS 2k3 server to another. However, we > >> dont have the resources to use the sbsmigration.com Swing IT! Kit. So, > >> I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. > >> Documentation would help. Even if it has to be pieced together. > >> Basically, it's a migration of AD, DNS, Exchange, and data > >> files...please help. I'm new to this and would really like to find > >> whatever guidance I can. However, the budgeting isn't up to me so I > >> have to work with what I have: the old server and the new one. It's moreso of the fact that a second server worth of hardware needs to be purchased in order to do the "swing". Basically, I'm not in control of things, if it was up to me I'd just grab the second set of hardware and drop the $200 on the sbsmigration kit. However, it's not up to me.

Re: SBS 2003 -> SBS 2003 "kj" <KevinJ.SBS[ at ]SPAMFREE.gmail.com> 25.06.2007 22:30:33 MarvinEugene[ at ]gmail.com wrote: [Quoted Text] > On Jun 25, 4:49 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > <crisnospamha...[ at ]computingnospampossibilities.net> wrote: >> I find it absolutely amazing that the business can afford a brand new >> server, but can't afford 200.00 for a tool that will make the whole >> thing painless and give you telephone/email support to boot. >> >> If thats the case, follow Brian's advise >> >> -- >> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] >> ------------------------------------------------- >> Microsoft MVPs >> Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) >> Real World Answers >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> Please do not contact me directly regarding issues >> >> "BrianMultiLanguage" <BrianMultiLangu...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> >> wrote in >> messagenews:61378956-89C0-407F-BE61-8F65EB8FDA52[ at ]microsoft.com... >> >>> How about this..(if it's not a lot of users) >>> Have the users backup their email to psts. >>> Stop Exchange on the old server. >>> Load the new server and use a different subnet using the same >>> name(s) as the >>> old one. >>> Build the news users and computers and file shares. >>> Detach all pcs from old domain. >>> Reattach the pcs to the new server and domain and restore the psts. >> >>> Anybody else? >> >>> "MarvinEug...[ at ]gmail.com" wrote: >> >>>> I know this topic has been posted several times...but, I need a >>>> different set of answers than what I've seen thus far. I'm looking >>>> for a way to upgrade servers. There's currently a SBS 2003 server >>>> in place in which we need to replace the hardware. So, basically, >>>> I need to be able to migrate data from one SBS 2k3 server to >>>> another. However, we dont have the resources to use the >>>> sbsmigration.com Swing IT! Kit. So, I was wondering if someone >>>> could point me in the right direction. Documentation would help. >>>> Even if it has to be pieced together. Basically, it's a migration >>>> of AD, DNS, Exchange, and data files...please help. I'm new to >>>> this and would really like to find whatever guidance I can. >>>> However, the budgeting isn't up to me so I have to work with what >>>> I have: the old server and the new one. > > It's moreso of the fact that a second server worth of hardware needs > to be purchased in order to do the "swing". Basically, I'm not in > control of things, if it was up to me I'd just grab the second set of > hardware and drop the $200 on the sbsmigration kit. However, it's not > up to me. VirtualPC2007 or VirtualServer2005 (both $0.00 each) and a downloadable trial copy of Windows 2003 ($0.00) will take care of the temp_DC. So, you're back to the $200.00 -- /kj

Re: SBS 2003 -> SBS 2003 "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" <gwdibble[ at ]NOSPAM.frontiernet.net> 25.06.2007 22:41:56 I work in a small business and I definitely get the budget thing, but just so you know, you don't need any special hardware for the swing server. I used a retired server we had laying around in storage, but you could use an old desktop, a laptop, a virtual machine - whatever you've got available. All it needs to do is to be able to run a WS03 install for a few days with no client services or anything like that - I'd think any P3 or later with 256 mb RAM would do it fairly easily. <MarvinEugene[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message news:1182810115.522598.166620[ at ]n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com... [Quoted Text] > On Jun 25, 4:49 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > <crisnospamha...[ at ]computingnospampossibilities.net> wrote: >> I find it absolutely amazing that the business can afford a brand new >> server, but can't afford 200.00 for a tool that will make the whole thing >> painless and give you telephone/email support to boot. >> >> If thats the case, follow Brian's advise >> >> -- >> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] >> ------------------------------------------------- >> Microsoft MVPs >> Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) >> Real World Answers >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> Please do not contact me directly regarding issues >> >> "BrianMultiLanguage" <BrianMultiLangu...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote >> in >> messagenews:61378956-89C0-407F-BE61-8F65EB8FDA52[ at ]microsoft.com... >> >> > How about this..(if it's not a lot of users) >> > Have the users backup their email to psts. >> > Stop Exchange on the old server. >> > Load the new server and use a different subnet using the same name(s) >> > as >> > the >> > old one. >> > Build the news users and computers and file shares. >> > Detach all pcs from old domain. >> > Reattach the pcs to the new server and domain and restore the psts. >> >> > Anybody else? >> >> > "MarvinEug...[ at ]gmail.com" wrote: >> >> >> I know this topic has been posted several times...but, I need a >> >> different set of answers than what I've seen thus far. I'm looking for >> >> a way to upgrade servers. There's currently a SBS 2003 server in place >> >> in which we need to replace the hardware. So, basically, I need to be >> >> able to migrate data from one SBS 2k3 server to another. However, we >> >> dont have the resources to use the sbsmigration.com Swing IT! Kit. So, >> >> I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. >> >> Documentation would help. Even if it has to be pieced together. >> >> Basically, it's a migration of AD, DNS, Exchange, and data >> >> files...please help. I'm new to this and would really like to find >> >> whatever guidance I can. However, the budgeting isn't up to me so I >> >> have to work with what I have: the old server and the new one. > > It's moreso of the fact that a second server worth of hardware needs > to be purchased in order to do the "swing". Basically, I'm not in > control of things, if it was up to me I'd just grab the second set of > hardware and drop the $200 on the sbsmigration kit. However, it's not > up to me. >

Re: SBS 2003 -> SBS 2003 "Steve" <newsgroup[ at ]public.lan> 26.06.2007 00:16:01 The advice to use a swing is definitely the way to go since as you can see it can be done with a virtual pc. No one has asked about the current licensing. Is it OEM? If so you can't move that to another box and would have to spend more money for another licensed copy of SBS. <MarvinEugene[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message news:1182806461.871366.107250[ at ]w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... [Quoted Text] >I know this topic has been posted several times...but, I need a > different set of answers than what I've seen thus far. I'm looking for > a way to upgrade servers. There's currently a SBS 2003 server in place > in which we need to replace the hardware. So, basically, I need to be > able to migrate data from one SBS 2k3 server to another. However, we > dont have the resources to use the sbsmigration.com Swing IT! Kit. So, > I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. > Documentation would help. Even if it has to be pieced together. > Basically, it's a migration of AD, DNS, Exchange, and data > files...please help. I'm new to this and would really like to find > whatever guidance I can. However, the budgeting isn't up to me so I > have to work with what I have: the old server and the new one. >

Re: SBS 2003 -> SBS 2003 Marvin <MarvinEugene[ at ]gmail.com> 26.06.2007 13:45:54 On Jun 25, 7:16 pm, "Steve" <newsgr...[ at ]public.lan> wrote: [Quoted Text] > The advice to use a swing is definitely the way to go since as you can see > it can be done with a virtual pc. No one has asked about the current > licensing. Is it OEM? If so you can't move that to another box and would > have to spend more money for another licensed copy of SBS. > > <MarvinEug...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1182806461.871366.107250[ at ]w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > >I know this topic has been posted several times...but, I need a > > different set of answers than what I've seen thus far. I'm looking for > > a way to upgrade servers. There's currently a SBS 2003 server in place > > in which we need to replace the hardware. So, basically, I need to be > > able to migrate data from one SBS 2k3 server to another. However, we > > dont have the resources to use the sbsmigration.com Swing IT! Kit. So, > > I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. > > Documentation would help. Even if it has to be pieced together. > > Basically, it's a migration of AD, DNS, Exchange, and data > > files...please help. I'm new to this and would really like to find > > whatever guidance I can. However, the budgeting isn't up to me so I > > have to work with what I have: the old server and the new one. Alright. Thanks for all the advice.