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Hi,
I currently have a Small Business Server setup with around 25 users.
I'm in the middle of building a new domain on a separate piece of hardware.
In an ideal world I would like to create a trust relationship between the SMB
Server domain and the new domain I'm creating. I understand this is not
possible as it's a restriction on the SMB server, please correct me if I'm
wrong.
I wanted to build a new domain, and leave the SMB Server SQL side of things
in place but the SMB Server I need to authenticate against the new domain.
The reason being the budget won't stretch to a new server for the SQL side of
things and the SQL licences, hence why I am trying to use the existing SQL
licences on the SMB Server.
Is there a way I can do this?
Any help will be gratefully received.
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You are correct that SBS does not support Trusts.
Just to fill the picture out ....why a new domain ?
You could use "Pass through Authentication" between the domains.
( Usernames and Passwords in Sync on both Domains )
.... but that comes at the cost of an additional 25 SBS CALs so the members
of the "New" domain can have "SBS Domain Accounts"
--
Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
"bennie" <bennie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4A603EB8-5D5B-4A40-9FE4-3755AAD18C37[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hi,
>
> I currently have a Small Business Server setup with around 25 users.
>
> I'm in the middle of building a new domain on a separate piece of
> hardware.
> In an ideal world I would like to create a trust relationship between the
> SMB
> Server domain and the new domain I'm creating. I understand this is not
> possible as it's a restriction on the SMB server, please correct me if I'm
> wrong.
>
> I wanted to build a new domain, and leave the SMB Server SQL side of
> things
> in place but the SMB Server I need to authenticate against the new domain.
> The reason being the budget won't stretch to a new server for the SQL side
> of
> things and the SQL licences, hence why I am trying to use the existing SQL
> licences on the SMB Server.
>
> Is there a way I can do this?
>
> Any help will be gratefully received.
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The reason I was going to create a new domain, is so that is was new and
fresh, currently everything is on one server, so I was going to spread out
the load of the fileserver, exchange server, sql server, so I thought I'd
create a new domain at the same time.
Not only that the company is growing very fast, and I wanted to create a new
domain at my leisure rather than build one that is needed yesterday.
"Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > You are correct that SBS does not support Trusts.
> Just to fill the picture out ....why a new domain ?
>
> You could use "Pass through Authentication" between the domains.
> ( Usernames and Passwords in Sync on both Domains )
> .... but that comes at the cost of an additional 25 SBS CALs so the members
> of the "New" domain can have "SBS Domain Accounts"
>
> --
> Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
>
>
>
> "bennie" <bennie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4A603EB8-5D5B-4A40-9FE4-3755AAD18C37[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I currently have a Small Business Server setup with around 25 users.
> >
> > I'm in the middle of building a new domain on a separate piece of
> > hardware.
> > In an ideal world I would like to create a trust relationship between the
> > SMB
> > Server domain and the new domain I'm creating. I understand this is not
> > possible as it's a restriction on the SMB server, please correct me if I'm
> > wrong.
> >
> > I wanted to build a new domain, and leave the SMB Server SQL side of
> > things
> > in place but the SMB Server I need to authenticate against the new domain.
> > The reason being the budget won't stretch to a new server for the SQL side
> > of
> > things and the SQL licences, hence why I am trying to use the existing SQL
> > licences on the SMB Server.
> >
> > Is there a way I can do this?
> >
> > Any help will be gratefully received.
>
>
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If you want to split the SBS products on different machines when Transition
pack is what you need.
http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsServer2003/sbs/techinfo/planning/transition.mspx
There is really no big sense in rebuilding the whole domain from the
scratch.
It will most likely end up the lose of time connecting computers to the new
domain, migrating mail and file permissions and a whole lot of other time
consuming tasks.
Hope this helps,
Jevgenij
"bennie" <bennie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:01F139D1-4E9E-4C94-87C0-16FB888496E5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > The reason I was going to create a new domain, is so that is was new and
> fresh, currently everything is on one server, so I was going to spread out
> the load of the fileserver, exchange server, sql server, so I thought I'd
> create a new domain at the same time.
> Not only that the company is growing very fast, and I wanted to create a
> new
> domain at my leisure rather than build one that is needed yesterday.
>
>
>
> "Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}" wrote:
>
>> You are correct that SBS does not support Trusts.
>> Just to fill the picture out ....why a new domain ?
>>
>> You could use "Pass through Authentication" between the domains.
>> ( Usernames and Passwords in Sync on both Domains )
>> .... but that comes at the cost of an additional 25 SBS CALs so the
>> members
>> of the "New" domain can have "SBS Domain Accounts"
>>
>> --
>> Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
>>
>>
>>
>> "bennie" <bennie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4A603EB8-5D5B-4A40-9FE4-3755AAD18C37[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I currently have a Small Business Server setup with around 25 users.
>> >
>> > I'm in the middle of building a new domain on a separate piece of
>> > hardware.
>> > In an ideal world I would like to create a trust relationship between
>> > the
>> > SMB
>> > Server domain and the new domain I'm creating. I understand this is
>> > not
>> > possible as it's a restriction on the SMB server, please correct me if
>> > I'm
>> > wrong.
>> >
>> > I wanted to build a new domain, and leave the SMB Server SQL side of
>> > things
>> > in place but the SMB Server I need to authenticate against the new
>> > domain.
>> > The reason being the budget won't stretch to a new server for the SQL
>> > side
>> > of
>> > things and the SQL licences, hence why I am trying to use the existing
>> > SQL
>> > licences on the SMB Server.
>> >
>> > Is there a way I can do this?
>> >
>> > Any help will be gratefully received.
>>
>>
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There is NO reason to create a new domain unless you need a different
security policy for the members of that domain. You can run quite large
enterprises on a single domain without issue, if that meets your
organizational needs.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
"bennie" <bennie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:01F139D1-4E9E-4C94-87C0-16FB888496E5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > The reason I was going to create a new domain, is so that is was new and
> fresh, currently everything is on one server, so I was going to spread out
> the load of the fileserver, exchange server, sql server, so I thought I'd
> create a new domain at the same time.
> Not only that the company is growing very fast, and I wanted to create a
> new
> domain at my leisure rather than build one that is needed yesterday.
>
>
>
> "Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}" wrote:
>
>> You are correct that SBS does not support Trusts.
>> Just to fill the picture out ....why a new domain ?
>>
>> You could use "Pass through Authentication" between the domains.
>> ( Usernames and Passwords in Sync on both Domains )
>> .... but that comes at the cost of an additional 25 SBS CALs so the
>> members
>> of the "New" domain can have "SBS Domain Accounts"
>>
>> --
>> Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
>>
>>
>>
>> "bennie" <bennie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4A603EB8-5D5B-4A40-9FE4-3755AAD18C37[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I currently have a Small Business Server setup with around 25 users.
>> >
>> > I'm in the middle of building a new domain on a separate piece of
>> > hardware.
>> > In an ideal world I would like to create a trust relationship between
>> > the
>> > SMB
>> > Server domain and the new domain I'm creating. I understand this is
>> > not
>> > possible as it's a restriction on the SMB server, please correct me if
>> > I'm
>> > wrong.
>> >
>> > I wanted to build a new domain, and leave the SMB Server SQL side of
>> > things
>> > in place but the SMB Server I need to authenticate against the new
>> > domain.
>> > The reason being the budget won't stretch to a new server for the SQL
>> > side
>> > of
>> > things and the SQL licences, hence why I am trying to use the existing
>> > SQL
>> > licences on the SMB Server.
>> >
>> > Is there a way I can do this?
>> >
>> > Any help will be gratefully received.
>>
>>
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