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Hello,
In our office we currently have a SBS2000 server with other support
servers and workstations on the LAN. It all works great.
Now I am starting a new business in the same physical office and I was
wondering if I can install a new SBS2003 server on the same physical
LAN? The business units are completely separate but share the same
server room.
If you have knowledge here, the pros and cons, please give me your
thoughts or point me to referrence materials.
Thanks so much.
Mark
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It needs to have a completely different IP Addressing Scheme from the first
SBS Server and isolation you can do of the two seeing each other network
wise would be the way to go...separate switches...etc
If two SBS servers detect each other on the same network...they get kind of
ugly...one of the DHCP servers will shut down and well...just better to
isolate them to any extent possible.
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Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
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"Mark" <mark.spiegelman[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183129308.695180.148710[ at ]d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hello,
>
> In our office we currently have a SBS2000 server with other support
> servers and workstations on the LAN. It all works great.
>
> Now I am starting a new business in the same physical office and I was
> wondering if I can install a new SBS2003 server on the same physical
> LAN? The business units are completely separate but share the same
> server room.
>
> If you have knowledge here, the pros and cons, please give me your
> thoughts or point me to referrence materials.
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Mark
>
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Hi Mark,
One way is to separate the servers by using 2 NICs in both servers and
configuring as in the following diagram:
Internet
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Router - SBS 2003 External NIC == SBS 2003 Internal NIC - Switch - SBS 2003
Workstations
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SBS 2000 External NIC
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SBS 2000 Internal NIC
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Switch
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SBS 2000 Workstations
The external NIC of each SBS server would be given a static IP address in
the same range as the LAN side of the router.
Now, one problem you may encounter is that features like VPN and SSL can are
hardcoded to specific ports (in this case 1723 and 443). So, in your
router, you wouldn't be able to forward traffic using these ports to both
servers at the same time. With other features (like Terminal Services, RWW,
Exchange, etc.), you can change the port number associated with incoming
traffic and have both servers function independently.
--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
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"Mark" <mark.spiegelman[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183129308.695180.148710[ at ]d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hello,
>
> In our office we currently have a SBS2000 server with other support
> servers and workstations on the LAN. It all works great.
>
> Now I am starting a new business in the same physical office and I was
> wondering if I can install a new SBS2003 server on the same physical
> LAN? The business units are completely separate but share the same
> server room.
>
> If you have knowledge here, the pros and cons, please give me your
> thoughts or point me to referrence materials.
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Mark
>
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You can share the same wiring into the Closet, but you'll need the Server(s)
networks on separate IP Subnets as Cris mentions.
Maybe not even if you're patching through separate switches.
Question arises as to what you'll do about your internet connection ?
Second DSL Connection with Second Static IP and second Modem Router ?
Same DSL Connection with Second Static IP single Modem Router with Vlans ?
Could you not just set up separate Org and Security units and an addition
Exchange Address and work off the one domain ?
--
Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
"Mark" <mark.spiegelman[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183129308.695180.148710[ at ]d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hello,
>
> In our office we currently have a SBS2000 server with other support
> servers and workstations on the LAN. It all works great.
>
> Now I am starting a new business in the same physical office and I was
> wondering if I can install a new SBS2003 server on the same physical
> LAN? The business units are completely separate but share the same
> server room.
>
> If you have knowledge here, the pros and cons, please give me your
> thoughts or point me to referrence materials.
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Mark
>
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On Jun 30, 8:27 am, "Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}" <s...[ at ]nevernever.lan>
wrote:
[Quoted Text] > You can share the same wiring into the Closet, but you'll need the Server(s)
> networks on separate IP Subnets as Cris mentions.
> Maybe not even if you're patching through separate switches.
>
> Question arises as to what you'll do about your internet connection ?
>
> Second DSL Connection with Second Static IP and second Modem Router ?
> Same DSL Connection with Second Static IP single Modem Router with Vlans ?
>
> Could you not just set up separate Org and Security units and an addition
> Exchange Address and work off the one domain ?
>
> --
> Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
>
> "Mark" <mark.spiegel...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1183129308.695180.148710[ at ]d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > In our office we currently have a SBS2000 server with other support
> > servers and workstations on the LAN. It all works great.
>
> > Now I am starting a new business in the same physical office and I was
> > wondering if I can install a new SBS2003 server on the same physical
> > LAN? The business units are completely separate but share the same
> > server room.
>
> > If you have knowledge here, the pros and cons, please give me your
> > thoughts or point me to referrence materials.
>
> > Thanks so much.
>
> > Mark- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Cris, Merv, Henry...
Thanks so much for your responses. I have decided to keep things
totally deparate, well almost. Could I not share a single INternet T1
pipe?
My thinking is that the TI provider terminates at their Cisco rouner.
If the router has a built in switch, could I not plug each wan into
it?
Like this...
T1 with Cisco Router, built in switch, 30 Static !P's
(2) WatchGuard Firebox Firewalls, each plugged into the router.
Both WatchGuards have Static IP addresses assigned to them.
Each Watchguard feeds an SBS server.
Each SBS NIC #2 feeds a multi port switch
In this way if I'm not totally out-to-lunch, sharing one Internet
connection both SBS LAN's could have standard addressing. Since they
never see each other. Only the Watchguards share the INternet
connection and each only listens for it's assigned WAN IP addresses
and ignores all others.
Pass or Fail?
Thanks so much for your time!!!
Happy 4th
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Routing the appropriate traffic from each Domain's Static Public IP Address
to it's Watchguard should work..
Now, what about shared resources such as Printers ?
what about scheduling shared resources such as Boardrooms ?
--
Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
"Mark" <mark.spiegelman[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183267307.819547.47290[ at ]a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text] > On Jun 30, 8:27 am, "Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}" <s...[ at ]nevernever.lan>
>
> Cris, Merv, Henry...
>
> Thanks so much for your responses. I have decided to keep things
> totally deparate, well almost. Could I not share a single INternet T1
> pipe?
>
> My thinking is that the TI provider terminates at their Cisco rouner.
> If the router has a built in switch, could I not plug each wan into
> it?
>
> Like this...
>
>
> T1 with Cisco Router, built in switch, 30 Static !P's
> (2) WatchGuard Firebox Firewalls, each plugged into the router.
> Both WatchGuards have Static IP addresses assigned to them.
> Each Watchguard feeds an SBS server.
> Each SBS NIC #2 feeds a multi port switch
>
> In this way if I'm not totally out-to-lunch, sharing one Internet
> connection both SBS LAN's could have standard addressing. Since they
> never see each other. Only the Watchguards share the INternet
> connection and each only listens for it's assigned WAN IP addresses
> and ignores all others.
>
> Pass or Fail?
>
> Thanks so much for your time!!!
>
> Happy 4th
>
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