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My drive bit the dust last week... :( in the middle of an audit. I didn't
have a chance to save that days work. Good news, I stopped on the way back
from the airport and picked up a USB drive and recovered the work files that
were lost using the file recovery utility. Bad news, I had to re-image the
drive. I bought a 120gb drive this weekend.
I would like to put the new drive in and vista on. Is there a good set of
instructions somewhere? Will I have to find a boat-load of drivers from IBM
to make this work?
Secondly, I have a more strange idea that I want to see if mere mortals can
accomplish with possibly a bound or two instead of the customary single
bound MVPs are accustomed to.
I have a client's application I run during audit that is not compatible with
Vista and not likely to have in the foreseeable future. Is it possible to
install the 120gb drive and make the drive dual-bootable so I work with my
client's database when I have to and then use Vista the rest of the time?
Does it make sense to do this? Is there enough of a gain to warrant
installing Vista? If it is possible, I'm back to asking if there is an easy
way to accomplish it and are equally as good work instructions available?
--
howard
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" - Juvenal
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In message <eR6E86MvHHA.4736[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, Howard Cross
<no-spam[ at ]No-Spam.com> writes
[Quoted Text] >My drive bit the dust last week... :( in the middle of an audit. I didn't
>have a chance to save that days work. Good news, I stopped on the way back
>from the airport and picked up a USB drive and recovered the work files that
>were lost using the file recovery utility. Bad news, I had to re-image the
>drive. I bought a 120gb drive this weekend.
>
>I would like to put the new drive in and vista on. Is there a good set of
>instructions somewhere? Will I have to find a boat-load of drivers from IBM
>to make this work?
>
>Secondly, I have a more strange idea that I want to see if mere mortals can
>accomplish with possibly a bound or two instead of the customary single
>bound MVPs are accustomed to.
>
>I have a client's application I run during audit that is not compatible with
>Vista and not likely to have in the foreseeable future. Is it possible to
>install the 120gb drive and make the drive dual-bootable so I work with my
>client's database when I have to and then use Vista the rest of the time?
>Does it make sense to do this? Is there enough of a gain to warrant
>installing Vista? If it is possible, I'm back to asking if there is an easy
>way to accomplish it and are equally as good work instructions available?
>
Howard
Not sure about the first question, it depends on the state of the old
drive. The easy solution (assuming the drive is readable in its USB
incarnation) is to use something like Acronis to image the original
drive, then copy the image to a partition on the new drive (Acronis
copes well with changes in the size of the drive). A "repair" with the
XP disks should then get you away.
Problem 2 is even easier to solve. If you are resorting to imaging to
solve problem 1, get the imaging software to create two partitions on
the new drive, and put the old system in partition 1. If you are
re-building XP Tablet from scratch (you will need to source the
appropriate drivers), get the XP build to partition the new drive, and
again put the original system on partition 1.
Then do a Vista install to partition 2 - it will install the appropriate
dual boot capability - in fact if you use a Vista home premium kit, it
will refuse to upgrade the XP install, but offer a clean install on the
second partition.
Hope this helps
--
Peter R Cook
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If I were you I would use Virtual PC instead of dual-boot. Unless you need
the application to run at full speed, Virtual PC (which is free) will give
you more flexibility and allow you to run your Vista-installed apps while
the XP app is running in the virtual machine. Undoubtedly you'll wind up
needing some of your apps when running XP so you'll probably end up
installing them on both partitions. For an application like Office this can
take up lots of unnecessary space.
--
Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
Einstein Technologies
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com
"Howard Cross" <no-spam[ at ]No-Spam.com> wrote in message
news:eR6E86MvHHA.4736[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > My drive bit the dust last week... :( in the middle of an audit. I didn't
> have a chance to save that days work. Good news, I stopped on the way back
> from the airport and picked up a USB drive and recovered the work files
> that were lost using the file recovery utility. Bad news, I had to
> re-image the drive. I bought a 120gb drive this weekend.
>
> I would like to put the new drive in and vista on. Is there a good set of
> instructions somewhere? Will I have to find a boat-load of drivers from
> IBM to make this work?
>
> Secondly, I have a more strange idea that I want to see if mere mortals
> can accomplish with possibly a bound or two instead of the customary
> single bound MVPs are accustomed to.
>
> I have a client's application I run during audit that is not compatible
> with Vista and not likely to have in the foreseeable future. Is it
> possible to install the 120gb drive and make the drive dual-bootable so I
> work with my client's database when I have to and then use Vista the rest
> of the time? Does it make sense to do this? Is there enough of a gain to
> warrant installing Vista? If it is possible, I'm back to asking if there
> is an easy way to accomplish it and are equally as good work instructions
> available?
>
> --
> howard
>
> "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" - Juvenal
>
>
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Hi Peter,
I'm back up and running XP at the moment. I have a copy of Vista Business
Edition on order that I got with the new drive.
How do I get XP to partition the drive? I was thinking that I would put the
new 120gb drive in and figure out how to boot from the IBM recovery disks
using the dvd drive in the docking station when they come.
I read somewhere that vista degrades the battery life on the X41 -
Are there other performance issues associated with the X41 and its hardware?
I have 1.5 gb of ram and will be using the 120 gb 5400 rpm drive.
I read somewhere that you can't use Aero with the X41. Is that the case?
--
howard
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" - Juvenal
"Invalid" <news[ at ]wisty.plus.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:ORhVAfFT1UiGFwTO[ at ]wisty.plus.com...
[Quoted Text] > In message <eR6E86MvHHA.4736[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, Howard Cross
> <no-spam[ at ]No-Spam.com> writes
>>My drive bit the dust last week... :( in the middle of an audit. I didn't
>>have a chance to save that days work. Good news, I stopped on the way back
>>from the airport and picked up a USB drive and recovered the work files
>>that
>>were lost using the file recovery utility. Bad news, I had to re-image the
>>drive. I bought a 120gb drive this weekend.
>>
>>I would like to put the new drive in and vista on. Is there a good set of
>>instructions somewhere? Will I have to find a boat-load of drivers from
>>IBM
>>to make this work?
>>
>>Secondly, I have a more strange idea that I want to see if mere mortals
>>can
>>accomplish with possibly a bound or two instead of the customary single
>>bound MVPs are accustomed to.
>>
>>I have a client's application I run during audit that is not compatible
>>with
>>Vista and not likely to have in the foreseeable future. Is it possible to
>>install the 120gb drive and make the drive dual-bootable so I work with my
>>client's database when I have to and then use Vista the rest of the time?
>>Does it make sense to do this? Is there enough of a gain to warrant
>>installing Vista? If it is possible, I'm back to asking if there is an
>>easy
>>way to accomplish it and are equally as good work instructions available?
>>
> Howard
>
> Not sure about the first question, it depends on the state of the old
> drive. The easy solution (assuming the drive is readable in its USB
> incarnation) is to use something like Acronis to image the original drive,
> then copy the image to a partition on the new drive (Acronis copes well
> with changes in the size of the drive). A "repair" with the XP disks
> should then get you away.
>
> Problem 2 is even easier to solve. If you are resorting to imaging to
> solve problem 1, get the imaging software to create two partitions on the
> new drive, and put the old system in partition 1. If you are re-building
> XP Tablet from scratch (you will need to source the appropriate drivers),
> get the XP build to partition the new drive, and again put the original
> system on partition 1.
>
> Then do a Vista install to partition 2 - it will install the appropriate
> dual boot capability - in fact if you use a Vista home premium kit, it
> will refuse to upgrade the XP install, but offer a clean install on the
> second partition.
>
> Hope this helps
> --
> Peter R Cook
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Hi Josh,
You know, I'm not sure... I only have one application that I have use in the
XP environment. This application is a database that I have to sync with
Navision on the mothership in Canada. I can only have it installed on one
box at a time otherwise syncing from 2 boxes will mess up the Navision
database.
The app is used input data and generate forms & reports. The documents are
exported to Word files based on templates. None of the reports have to be
opened until I'm ready to use them which can be done from Vista.
Can I use Virtual PC to sync files through Vista?
--
howard
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" - Juvenal
"Josh Einstein" <josh[ at ]einsteintech.net> wrote in message
news:F2637EEB-91FD-46B1-868E-EA3A6846A620[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > If I were you I would use Virtual PC instead of dual-boot. Unless you need
> the application to run at full speed, Virtual PC (which is free) will give
> you more flexibility and allow you to run your Vista-installed apps while
> the XP app is running in the virtual machine. Undoubtedly you'll wind up
> needing some of your apps when running XP so you'll probably end up
> installing them on both partitions. For an application like Office this
> can take up lots of unnecessary space.
>
> --
> Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
> Einstein Technologies
> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com
>
>
> "Howard Cross" <no-spam[ at ]No-Spam.com> wrote in message
> news:eR6E86MvHHA.4736[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> My drive bit the dust last week... :( in the middle of an audit. I didn't
>> have a chance to save that days work. Good news, I stopped on the way
>> back from the airport and picked up a USB drive and recovered the work
>> files that were lost using the file recovery utility. Bad news, I had to
>> re-image the drive. I bought a 120gb drive this weekend.
>>
>> I would like to put the new drive in and vista on. Is there a good set of
>> instructions somewhere? Will I have to find a boat-load of drivers from
>> IBM to make this work?
>>
>> Secondly, I have a more strange idea that I want to see if mere mortals
>> can accomplish with possibly a bound or two instead of the customary
>> single bound MVPs are accustomed to.
>>
>> I have a client's application I run during audit that is not compatible
>> with Vista and not likely to have in the foreseeable future. Is it
>> possible to install the 120gb drive and make the drive dual-bootable so I
>> work with my client's database when I have to and then use Vista the rest
>> of the time? Does it make sense to do this? Is there enough of a gain to
>> warrant installing Vista? If it is possible, I'm back to asking if there
>> is an easy way to accomplish it and are equally as good work instructions
>> available?
>>
>> --
>> howard
>>
>> "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" - Juvenal
>>
>>
>
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In message <um8HjAPvHHA.4348[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, Howard Cross
<no-spam[ at ]No-Spam.com> writes
[Quoted Text] >Hi Peter,
>
>I'm back up and running XP at the moment. I have a copy of Vista Business
>Edition on order that I got with the new drive.
I think Vista business WILL upgrade an existing XP installation - you
may need to stop it! You might want to look at Josh's idea of running
Virtual PC. My view is not to bother, disk space is cheap ( 120g = 2 *
60G harddrive ), and 60G is a lot of space for a laptop. CPU cycles and
memory use are still the main constraint for me (they cost battery
life).
>
>How do I get XP to partition the drive? I was thinking that I would put the
>new 120gb drive in and figure out how to boot from the IBM recovery disks
>using the dvd drive in the docking station when they come.
>
I have no idea. I use Acronis for this. If you are not running on the
new drive I suggest repartitioning and formatting the drive using third
party software before letting the IBM recovery disks anywhere near it!!
My Tatung came with what appears to be a full XP tablet edition SP2
install CD. It asked politely how I wanted the new 60G blank hard drive
partitioned. I said two partitions please - each is about 30G and each
has 10-11G free. (XP on one, Vista on the other). But then I do keep all
the junk on my desktop!!!
If you haven't actually installed the new drive and are still running XP
on the old one, I would really recommend a copy of Acronis.
>I read somewhere that vista degrades the battery life on the X41 -
>
Don't have an X41, and I haven't done any scientifically valid tests,
but perception on my Tatung (no Aero support) is that battery life is a
bit shorter with Vista. You may get different mileage.
>Are there other performance issues associated with the X41 and its hardware?
>I have 1.5 gb of ram and will be using the 120 gb 5400 rpm drive.
As I said I don't have an X41, so I can't comment, but I would have
thought 1.5G would be fine. I run 1.2G, and under XP can't really tell
the difference from 768M.
>
>I read somewhere that you can't use Aero with the X41. Is that the case?
>
Again no idea I have never seen or used an X41, but a quick Google
suggests that it uses the same Intel 915GM chipset as my Tatung - so the
answer is probably no. But then again I prefer to use the windows
classic interface on XP let alone Vista!!!
--
Peter R Cook
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I have a Pentium M 1600 w/ MMX instead of a Centrino. Will that make a
difference?
--
howard
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" - Juvenal
"Invalid" <news[ at ]wisty.plus.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:BxQWY3IVgXiGFwBo[ at ]wisty.plus.com...
[Quoted Text] > In message <um8HjAPvHHA.4348[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, Howard Cross
> <no-spam[ at ]No-Spam.com> writes
>>Hi Peter,
>>
>>I'm back up and running XP at the moment. I have a copy of Vista Business
>>Edition on order that I got with the new drive.
>
> I think Vista business WILL upgrade an existing XP installation - you may
> need to stop it! You might want to look at Josh's idea of running Virtual
> PC. My view is not to bother, disk space is cheap ( 120g = 2 * 60G
> harddrive ), and 60G is a lot of space for a laptop. CPU cycles and memory
> use are still the main constraint for me (they cost battery life).
>>
>>How do I get XP to partition the drive? I was thinking that I would put
>>the
>>new 120gb drive in and figure out how to boot from the IBM recovery disks
>>using the dvd drive in the docking station when they come.
>>
> I have no idea. I use Acronis for this. If you are not running on the new
> drive I suggest repartitioning and formatting the drive using third party
> software before letting the IBM recovery disks anywhere near it!! My
> Tatung came with what appears to be a full XP tablet edition SP2 install
> CD. It asked politely how I wanted the new 60G blank hard drive
> partitioned. I said two partitions please - each is about 30G and each has
> 10-11G free. (XP on one, Vista on the other). But then I do keep all the
> junk on my desktop!!!
>
> If you haven't actually installed the new drive and are still running XP
> on the old one, I would really recommend a copy of Acronis.
>
>>I read somewhere that vista degrades the battery life on the X41 -
>>
> Don't have an X41, and I haven't done any scientifically valid tests, but
> perception on my Tatung (no Aero support) is that battery life is a bit
> shorter with Vista. You may get different mileage.
>
>>Are there other performance issues associated with the X41 and its
>>hardware?
>>I have 1.5 gb of ram and will be using the 120 gb 5400 rpm drive.
>
> As I said I don't have an X41, so I can't comment, but I would have
> thought 1.5G would be fine. I run 1.2G, and under XP can't really tell the
> difference from 768M.
>>
>>I read somewhere that you can't use Aero with the X41. Is that the case?
>>
> Again no idea I have never seen or used an X41, but a quick Google
> suggests that it uses the same Intel 915GM chipset as my Tatung - so the
> answer is probably no. But then again I prefer to use the windows classic
> interface on XP let alone Vista!!!
> --
> Peter R Cook
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Actually Virtual PC will let you mount a folder that both the guest and the
host OS can read/write to. It effectively becomes "common ground" for the
two OS's.
But you could also do IP-based synchronization using FolderShare.
--
Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
Einstein Technologies
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com
"Howard Cross" <no-spam[ at ]No-Spam.com> wrote in message
news:upnU4JPvHHA.3476[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Hi Josh,
>
> You know, I'm not sure... I only have one application that I have use in
> the XP environment. This application is a database that I have to sync
> with Navision on the mothership in Canada. I can only have it installed on
> one box at a time otherwise syncing from 2 boxes will mess up the Navision
> database.
>
> The app is used input data and generate forms & reports. The documents are
> exported to Word files based on templates. None of the reports have to be
> opened until I'm ready to use them which can be done from Vista.
>
> Can I use Virtual PC to sync files through Vista?
>
> --
> howard
>
> "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" - Juvenal
>
> "Josh Einstein" <josh[ at ]einsteintech.net> wrote in message
> news:F2637EEB-91FD-46B1-868E-EA3A6846A620[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> If I were you I would use Virtual PC instead of dual-boot. Unless you
>> need the application to run at full speed, Virtual PC (which is free)
>> will give you more flexibility and allow you to run your Vista-installed
>> apps while the XP app is running in the virtual machine. Undoubtedly
>> you'll wind up needing some of your apps when running XP so you'll
>> probably end up installing them on both partitions. For an application
>> like Office this can take up lots of unnecessary space.
>>
>> --
>> Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
>> Einstein Technologies
>> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com
>>
>>
>> "Howard Cross" <no-spam[ at ]No-Spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:eR6E86MvHHA.4736[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> My drive bit the dust last week... :( in the middle of an audit. I
>>> didn't have a chance to save that days work. Good news, I stopped on the
>>> way back from the airport and picked up a USB drive and recovered the
>>> work files that were lost using the file recovery utility. Bad news, I
>>> had to re-image the drive. I bought a 120gb drive this weekend.
>>>
>>> I would like to put the new drive in and vista on. Is there a good set
>>> of instructions somewhere? Will I have to find a boat-load of drivers
>>> from IBM to make this work?
>>>
>>> Secondly, I have a more strange idea that I want to see if mere mortals
>>> can accomplish with possibly a bound or two instead of the customary
>>> single bound MVPs are accustomed to.
>>>
>>> I have a client's application I run during audit that is not compatible
>>> with Vista and not likely to have in the foreseeable future. Is it
>>> possible to install the 120gb drive and make the drive dual-bootable so
>>> I work with my client's database when I have to and then use Vista the
>>> rest of the time? Does it make sense to do this? Is there enough of a
>>> gain to warrant installing Vista? If it is possible, I'm back to asking
>>> if there is an easy way to accomplish it and are equally as good work
>>> instructions available?
>>>
>>> --
>>> howard
>>>
>>> "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" - Juvenal
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Hi Josh,
I have my drive and I have Vista, I think I'll wait for the client to
complete their migration process, unless it just doesn't look like it'll
happen. Then I'll give it a shot.
--
howard
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" - Juvenal
"Josh Einstein" <josh[ at ]einsteintech.net> wrote in message
news:46C57AE5-3957-4766-B932-67C046AF0CA1[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Actually Virtual PC will let you mount a folder that both the guest and
> the host OS can read/write to. It effectively becomes "common ground" for
> the two OS's.
>
> But you could also do IP-based synchronization using FolderShare.
>
> --
> Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
> Einstein Technologies
> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com
>
>
> "Howard Cross" <no-spam[ at ]No-Spam.com> wrote in message
> news:upnU4JPvHHA.3476[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Josh,
>>
>> You know, I'm not sure... I only have one application that I have use in
>> the XP environment. This application is a database that I have to sync
>> with Navision on the mothership in Canada. I can only have it installed
>> on one box at a time otherwise syncing from 2 boxes will mess up the
>> Navision database.
>>
>> The app is used input data and generate forms & reports. The documents
>> are exported to Word files based on templates. None of the reports have
>> to be opened until I'm ready to use them which can be done from Vista.
>>
>> Can I use Virtual PC to sync files through Vista?
>>
>> --
>> howard
>>
>> "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" - Juvenal
>>
>> "Josh Einstein" <josh[ at ]einsteintech.net> wrote in message
>> news:F2637EEB-91FD-46B1-868E-EA3A6846A620[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> If I were you I would use Virtual PC instead of dual-boot. Unless you
>>> need the application to run at full speed, Virtual PC (which is free)
>>> will give you more flexibility and allow you to run your Vista-installed
>>> apps while the XP app is running in the virtual machine. Undoubtedly
>>> you'll wind up needing some of your apps when running XP so you'll
>>> probably end up installing them on both partitions. For an application
>>> like Office this can take up lots of unnecessary space.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
>>> Einstein Technologies
>>> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com
>>>
>>>
>>> "Howard Cross" <no-spam[ at ]No-Spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eR6E86MvHHA.4736[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> My drive bit the dust last week... :( in the middle of an audit. I
>>>> didn't have a chance to save that days work. Good news, I stopped on
>>>> the way back from the airport and picked up a USB drive and recovered
>>>> the work files that were lost using the file recovery utility. Bad
>>>> news, I had to re-image the drive. I bought a 120gb drive this weekend.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to put the new drive in and vista on. Is there a good set
>>>> of instructions somewhere? Will I have to find a boat-load of drivers
>>>> from IBM to make this work?
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, I have a more strange idea that I want to see if mere mortals
>>>> can accomplish with possibly a bound or two instead of the customary
>>>> single bound MVPs are accustomed to.
>>>>
>>>> I have a client's application I run during audit that is not compatible
>>>> with Vista and not likely to have in the foreseeable future. Is it
>>>> possible to install the 120gb drive and make the drive dual-bootable so
>>>> I work with my client's database when I have to and then use Vista the
>>>> rest of the time? Does it make sense to do this? Is there enough of a
>>>> gain to warrant installing Vista? If it is possible, I'm back to asking
>>>> if there is an easy way to accomplish it and are equally as good work
>>>> instructions available?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> howard
>>>>
>>>> "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" - Juvenal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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