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SFN 5.03 File Migration Utility Reports Forest Unavailable
Peter <spamfree[ at ]tampabay.rr.com> 09.07.2007 14:06:02
I am attempting to perform a migration from a Novell Netware 6 environment
to Windows Server 2003 R2 using Microsoft Services For Netware(SFN) 5.03
SP2. The Windows servers have the latest patches and SFN is running on a
domain controller with Novell Client for Windows 4.91 SP3.

The Microsoft Directory Synchronization Service(MSDSS) installed properly,
migrated Netware accounts to Active Directory(AD) OUs and continues one-way
synchronization without issue.

When attempting to use the File Migration Utility(FMU) to transfer files and
permissions from Netware to a Windows 2003 server, the FMU indicates that
the forest is "unavailable" in the Active Directory target selection window
of Step 3.

The FMU is being run on a Windows 2003 Domain Controller(DC) that is not
having any issues what-so-ever. The share is published in Active Directory
and Explorer searches for AD shares from the FMU server return all of the
published shares.

I have searched extensively for a solution and, although I have found other
reports of this issue, I have yet to find any solution. Has anyone else
seen this behavior and is there a resolution?


Thanks in advance,

Peter


RE: SFN 5.03 File Migration Utility Reports Forest Unavailable
v-kzhao[ at ]online.microsoft.com ("Ken Zhao [MSFT]") 10.07.2007 02:40:36
Hello Peter,

Thank you for using newsgroup!

Based on my research, the issue has been described in the following article
that might be helpful:
316094: List of Problems That Are Fixed in Services for NetWare 5.0 Service
Packs
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;316094

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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| I am attempting to perform a migration from a Novell Netware 6 environment
| to Windows Server 2003 R2 using Microsoft Services For Netware(SFN) 5.03
| SP2. The Windows servers have the latest patches and SFN is running on a
| domain controller with Novell Client for Windows 4.91 SP3.
|
| The Microsoft Directory Synchronization Service(MSDSS) installed properly,
| migrated Netware accounts to Active Directory(AD) OUs and continues
one-way
| synchronization without issue.
|
| When attempting to use the File Migration Utility(FMU) to transfer files
and
| permissions from Netware to a Windows 2003 server, the FMU indicates that
| the forest is "unavailable" in the Active Directory target selection
window
| of Step 3.
|
| The FMU is being run on a Windows 2003 Domain Controller(DC) that is not
| having any issues what-so-ever. The share is published in Active Directory
| and Explorer searches for AD shares from the FMU server return all of the
| published shares.
|
| I have searched extensively for a solution and, although I have found
other
| reports of this issue, I have yet to find any solution. Has anyone else
| seen this behavior and is there a resolution?
|
|
| Thanks in advance,
|
| Peter
|
|
|

RE: SFN 5.03 File Migration Utility Reports Forest Unavailable
Peter <spamfree[ at ]tampabay.rr.com> 10.07.2007 12:33:37
Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Hello Peter,
>
> Thank you for using newsgroup!
>
> Based on my research, the issue has been described in the following
> article that might be helpful:
> 316094: List of Problems That Are Fixed in Services for NetWare 5.0
> Service Packs
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;316094
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Ken Zhao
>
> Microsoft Online Support
> Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> <http://www.microsoft.com/security>
> ==================================================== When responding to
> posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may
> learn and benefit from your issue.
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> provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
>

Ken,

Thank you for your response. I was previously aware of the document that you
linked to however, the document refers to version 5.02 SP2 as fixed. As I
stated in my original post, I am running version 5.03 SP2, which is even
newer and is the only version available on Microsoft's site.

This can only mean that there has been a regression and the problem has
returned, or I am experiencing a different problem with the same symptoms.
In either case, the link does not resolve my issue.

I would be willing to try the older version of the File Migration Utility if
you could indicate where I might find it. It seems to have been removed
from Microsoft's site since it was superceded by the newer 5.03 SP2
version.


Thanks.

Peter

RE: SFN 5.03 File Migration Utility Reports Forest Unavailable
v-kzhao[ at ]online.microsoft.com ("Ken Zhao [MSFT]") 12.07.2007 11:10:36
Hi Peter,

For your issue, I have performed further research and found the following
possible cause for your reference:

Possible causes:
The Windows 2003 DC name is longer than 15 characters. This could cause a
problem with NetBIOS name resolution. Or the target server has the same
name as the Source Novell server.

Possible Resolution:
Demote the DC, renamed it and promoted back up. Make sure DC replicating
properly. Restart MSDSS, resynchronize and thereafter able to see the AD
side of the FMU tool. Or rename the target server name.

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security <http://www.microsoft.com/security>
====================================================
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| From: Peter <spamfree[ at ]tampabay.rr.com>
| Subject: RE: SFN 5.03 File Migration Utility Reports Forest Unavailable
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
| Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:33:37 -0400
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| Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote:
|
| > Hello Peter,
| >
| > Thank you for using newsgroup!
| >
| > Based on my research, the issue has been described in the following
| > article that might be helpful:
| > 316094: List of Problems That Are Fixed in Services for NetWare 5.0
| > Service Packs
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;316094
| >
| > Thanks & Regards,
| >
| > Ken Zhao
| >
| > Microsoft Online Support
| > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > <http://www.microsoft.com/security>
| > ==================================================== When responding to
| > posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may
| > learn and benefit from your issue.
| > ==================================================== This posting is
| > provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
| >
| >
| >
|
| Ken,
|
| Thank you for your response. I was previously aware of the document that
you
| linked to however, the document refers to version 5.02 SP2 as fixed. As I
| stated in my original post, I am running version 5.03 SP2, which is even
| newer and is the only version available on Microsoft's site.
|
| This can only mean that there has been a regression and the problem has
| returned, or I am experiencing a different problem with the same symptoms.
| In either case, the link does not resolve my issue.
|
| I would be willing to try the older version of the File Migration Utility
if
| you could indicate where I might find it. It seems to have been removed
| from Microsoft's site since it was superceded by the newer 5.03 SP2
| version.
|
|
| Thanks.
|
| Peter
|
|

RE: SFN 5.03 File Migration Utility Reports Forest Unavailable - Resolved!
Peter <spamfree[ at ]tampabay.rr.com> 12.07.2007 13:57:18
Ken,

Thank you very much for your persistence on this issue. You are absolutely
correct that the issue is due to a DC name in excess of 15 characters. In
this particular case, the DC on which MSDSS and the FMU were running from
had a 17 character long name which was being truncated to 15 characters for
the NetBios name. Your instructions for demoting and renaming the DC
resolved the issue and the FMU now works as expected.

Thank you again for your assistance.


Peter



Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Hi Peter,
>
> For your issue, I have performed further research and found the following
> possible cause for your reference:
>
> Possible causes:
> The Windows 2003 DC name is longer than 15 characters. This could cause a
> problem with NetBIOS name resolution. Or the target server has the same
> name as the Source Novell server.
>
> Possible Resolution:
> Demote the DC, renamed it and promoted back up. Make sure DC replicating
> properly. Restart MSDSS, resynchronize and thereafter able to see the AD
> side of the FMU tool. Or rename the target server name.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Ken Zhao
>
> Microsoft Online Support
> Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> <http://www.microsoft.com/security>
> ==================================================== When responding to
> posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may
> learn and benefit from your issue.
> ==================================================== This posting is
> provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
>
>
>
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> | Message-Id: <46937ca1$0$14971$4c368faf[ at ]roadrunner.com>
> | From: Peter <spamfree[ at ]tampabay.rr.com>
> | Subject: RE: SFN 5.03 File Migration Utility Reports Forest Unavailable
> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
> | Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:33:37 -0400
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> |
> | Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote:
> |
> | > Hello Peter,
> | >
> | > Thank you for using newsgroup!
> | >
> | > Based on my research, the issue has been described in the following
> | > article that might be helpful:
> | > 316094: List of Problems That Are Fixed in Services for NetWare 5.0
> | > Service Packs
> | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;316094
> | >
> | > Thanks & Regards,
> | >
> | > Ken Zhao
> | >
> | > Microsoft Online Support
> | > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
> | >
> | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> | > <http://www.microsoft.com/security>
> | > ==================================================== When responding
> | > to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others
> | > may learn and benefit from your issue.
> | > ==================================================== This posting is
> | > provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> | >
> | >
> | >
> |
> | Ken,
> |
> | Thank you for your response. I was previously aware of the document that
> you
> | linked to however, the document refers to version 5.02 SP2 as fixed. As
> | I stated in my original post, I am running version 5.03 SP2, which is
> | even newer and is the only version available on Microsoft's site.
> |
> | This can only mean that there has been a regression and the problem has
> | returned, or I am experiencing a different problem with the same
> | symptoms. In either case, the link does not resolve my issue.
> |
> | I would be willing to try the older version of the File Migration
> | Utility
> if
> | you could indicate where I might find it. It seems to have been removed
> | from Microsoft's site since it was superceded by the newer 5.03 SP2
> | version.
> |
> |
> | Thanks.
> |
> | Peter
> |
> |

RE: SFN 5.03 File Migration Utility Reports Forest Unavailable - Resolved!
v-kzhao[ at ]online.microsoft.com ("Ken Zhao [MSFT]") 13.07.2007 05:57:11
Hi Peter,

Glad to hear our suggestions have been helpful to your issue. If you have
any other questions, feel free to contact us.

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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| From: Peter <spamfree[ at ]tampabay.rr.com>
| Subject: RE: SFN 5.03 File Migration Utility Reports Forest Unavailable -
Resolved!
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
| Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:57:18 -0400
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|
| Ken,
|
| Thank you very much for your persistence on this issue. You are absolutely
| correct that the issue is due to a DC name in excess of 15 characters. In
| this particular case, the DC on which MSDSS and the FMU were running from
| had a 17 character long name which was being truncated to 15 characters
for
| the NetBios name. Your instructions for demoting and renaming the DC
| resolved the issue and the FMU now works as expected.
|
| Thank you again for your assistance.
|
|
| Peter
|
|
|
| Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote:
|
| > Hi Peter,
| >
| > For your issue, I have performed further research and found the
following
| > possible cause for your reference:
| >
| > Possible causes:
| > The Windows 2003 DC name is longer than 15 characters. This could cause
a
| > problem with NetBIOS name resolution. Or the target server has the same
| > name as the Source Novell server.
| >
| > Possible Resolution:
| > Demote the DC, renamed it and promoted back up. Make sure DC replicating
| > properly. Restart MSDSS, resynchronize and thereafter able to see the AD
| > side of the FMU tool. Or rename the target server name.
| >
| > Thanks & Regards,
| >
| > Ken Zhao
| >
| > Microsoft Online Support
| > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > <http://www.microsoft.com/security>
| > ==================================================== When responding to
| > posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may
| > learn and benefit from your issue.
| > ==================================================== This posting is
| > provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > --------------------
| > | Message-Id: <46937ca1$0$14971$4c368faf[ at ]roadrunner.com>
| > | From: Peter <spamfree[ at ]tampabay.rr.com>
| > | Subject: RE: SFN 5.03 File Migration Utility Reports Forest
Unavailable
| > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
| > | Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:33:37 -0400
| > | References: <469240cb$0$12218$4c368faf[ at ]roadrunner.com>
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| > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
| > |
| > | Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hello Peter,
| > | >
| > | > Thank you for using newsgroup!
| > | >
| > | > Based on my research, the issue has been described in the following
| > | > article that might be helpful:
| > | > 316094: List of Problems That Are Fixed in Services for NetWare 5.0
| > | > Service Packs
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;316094
| > | >
| > | > Thanks & Regards,
| > | >
| > | > Ken Zhao
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft Online Support
| > | > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
| > | >
| > | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > <http://www.microsoft.com/security>
| > | > ==================================================== When responding
| > | > to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others
| > | > may learn and benefit from your issue.
| > | > ==================================================== This posting is
| > | > provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > | Ken,
| > |
| > | Thank you for your response. I was previously aware of the document
that
| > you
| > | linked to however, the document refers to version 5.02 SP2 as fixed.
As
| > | I stated in my original post, I am running version 5.03 SP2, which is
| > | even newer and is the only version available on Microsoft's site.
| > |
| > | This can only mean that there has been a regression and the problem
has
| > | returned, or I am experiencing a different problem with the same
| > | symptoms. In either case, the link does not resolve my issue.
| > |
| > | I would be willing to try the older version of the File Migration
| > | Utility
| > if
| > | you could indicate where I might find it. It seems to have been
removed
| > | from Microsoft's site since it was superceded by the newer 5.03 SP2
| > | version.
| > |
| > |
| > | Thanks.
| > |
| > | Peter
| > |
| > |
|
|

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