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SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2
John N 09.07.2007 13:58:05
I need to migrate users from SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2. Cannot establish a trust
to use ADMT. Can I build an NT4 BDC on that domain and use that to establish
a trust? Even better, can I upgrade in place the BDC to Win2003r2?

Thanks
--
JLN
Re: SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2
"Danny Sanders" <DSanders[ at ]NOSPAMciber.com> 09.07.2007 15:35:42
[Quoted Text]
>Can I build an NT4 BDC on that domain and use that to establish
> a trust?

No.

>Even better, can I upgrade in place the BDC to Win2003r2?

The PDC is the only DC on the NT 4.0 domain that holds a writeable copy of
the SAM. In order to upgrade that NT 4.0 domain to Win 2k3 you must carry
that SAM into the Win 2k3 domain by upgrading the PDC. Upgrading *any*
*other* server will create a new SAM. To your domain clients new SAM = new
domain.


hth
DDS


"John N" <JohnN[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C88CABEE-8927-43CA-92B5-259EFCFFF490[ at ]microsoft.com...
>I need to migrate users from SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2. Cannot establish a
>trust
> to use ADMT. Can I build an NT4 BDC on that domain and use that to
> establish
> a trust? Even better, can I upgrade in place the BDC to Win2003r2?
>
> Thanks
> --
> JLN


Re: SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2
John N 09.07.2007 18:16:03
Forget the trust for a minute, I thought I could build a BDC with plain NT4
server in a SBS 4.0 domain and then promote it to a PDC and shut down the old
SBS 4.0 box. Is that wrong?
--
JLN


"Danny Sanders" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> >Can I build an NT4 BDC on that domain and use that to establish
> > a trust?
>
> No.
>
> >Even better, can I upgrade in place the BDC to Win2003r2?
>
> The PDC is the only DC on the NT 4.0 domain that holds a writeable copy of
> the SAM. In order to upgrade that NT 4.0 domain to Win 2k3 you must carry
> that SAM into the Win 2k3 domain by upgrading the PDC. Upgrading *any*
> *other* server will create a new SAM. To your domain clients new SAM = new
> domain.
>
>
> hth
> DDS
>
>
> "John N" <JohnN[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C88CABEE-8927-43CA-92B5-259EFCFFF490[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >I need to migrate users from SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2. Cannot establish a
> >trust
> > to use ADMT. Can I build an NT4 BDC on that domain and use that to
> > establish
> > a trust? Even better, can I upgrade in place the BDC to Win2003r2?
> >
> > Thanks
> > --
> > JLN
>
>
>
Re: SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2
"Danny Sanders" <DSanders[ at ]NOSPAMciber.com> 09.07.2007 19:05:50
I thought I could build a BDC with plain NT4
[Quoted Text]
> server in a SBS 4.0 domain and then promote it to a PDC and shut down the
> old
> SBS 4.0 box. Is that wrong?


I have not worked with SBS. It has limitations that the "regular" server
does not have. Without SBS in the mix your plan will work. Not sure SBS will
allow another server other than the SBS server to be the PDC.

If this is a problem you might be able to take the NT 4.0 BDC off the
network, then promote to PDC.

hth
DDS

"John N" <JohnN[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FD99C663-03B5-4F8D-9D45-24841494AA6B[ at ]microsoft.com...
> Forget the trust for a minute, I thought I could build a BDC with plain
> NT4
> server in a SBS 4.0 domain and then promote it to a PDC and shut down the
> old
> SBS 4.0 box. Is that wrong?
> --
> JLN
>
>
> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>
>> >Can I build an NT4 BDC on that domain and use that to establish
>> > a trust?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> >Even better, can I upgrade in place the BDC to Win2003r2?
>>
>> The PDC is the only DC on the NT 4.0 domain that holds a writeable copy
>> of
>> the SAM. In order to upgrade that NT 4.0 domain to Win 2k3 you must carry
>> that SAM into the Win 2k3 domain by upgrading the PDC. Upgrading *any*
>> *other* server will create a new SAM. To your domain clients new SAM =
>> new
>> domain.
>>
>>
>> hth
>> DDS
>>
>>
>> "John N" <JohnN[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C88CABEE-8927-43CA-92B5-259EFCFFF490[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> >I need to migrate users from SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2. Cannot establish a
>> >trust
>> > to use ADMT. Can I build an NT4 BDC on that domain and use that to
>> > establish
>> > a trust? Even better, can I upgrade in place the BDC to Win2003r2?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > --
>> > JLN
>>
>>
>>


Re: SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2
v-kzhao[ at ]online.microsoft.com ("Ken Zhao [MSFT]") 10.07.2007 02:04:03
Hello John,

Thank you for using newsgroup!

From your post, I'd like to thanks Danny Sanders.

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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| I thought I could build a BDC with plain NT4
| > server in a SBS 4.0 domain and then promote it to a PDC and shut down
the
| > old
| > SBS 4.0 box. Is that wrong?
|
|
| I have not worked with SBS. It has limitations that the "regular" server
| does not have. Without SBS in the mix your plan will work. Not sure SBS
will
| allow another server other than the SBS server to be the PDC.
|
| If this is a problem you might be able to take the NT 4.0 BDC off the
| network, then promote to PDC.
|
| hth
| DDS
|
| "John N" <JohnN[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:FD99C663-03B5-4F8D-9D45-24841494AA6B[ at ]microsoft.com...
| > Forget the trust for a minute, I thought I could build a BDC with plain
| > NT4
| > server in a SBS 4.0 domain and then promote it to a PDC and shut down
the
| > old
| > SBS 4.0 box. Is that wrong?
| > --
| > JLN
| >
| >
| > "Danny Sanders" wrote:
| >
| >> >Can I build an NT4 BDC on that domain and use that to establish
| >> > a trust?
| >>
| >> No.
| >>
| >> >Even better, can I upgrade in place the BDC to Win2003r2?
| >>
| >> The PDC is the only DC on the NT 4.0 domain that holds a writeable
copy
| >> of
| >> the SAM. In order to upgrade that NT 4.0 domain to Win 2k3 you must
carry
| >> that SAM into the Win 2k3 domain by upgrading the PDC. Upgrading *any*
| >> *other* server will create a new SAM. To your domain clients new SAM =
| >> new
| >> domain.
| >>
| >>
| >> hth
| >> DDS
| >>
| >>
| >> "John N" <JohnN[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| >> news:C88CABEE-8927-43CA-92B5-259EFCFFF490[ at ]microsoft.com...
| >> >I need to migrate users from SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2. Cannot establish a
| >> >trust
| >> > to use ADMT. Can I build an NT4 BDC on that domain and use that to
| >> > establish
| >> > a trust? Even better, can I upgrade in place the BDC to Win2003r2?
| >> >
| >> > Thanks
| >> > --
| >> > JLN
| >>
| >>
| >>
|
|
|

Re: SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2
John N 10.07.2007 13:00:06
Thanks all
--
JLN


""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Hello John,
>
> Thank you for using newsgroup!
>
> From your post, I'd like to thanks Danny Sanders.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Ken Zhao
>
> Microsoft Online Support
> Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security <http://www.microsoft.com/security>
> ====================================================
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> ====================================================
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
>
>
> --------------------
> | From: "Danny Sanders" <DSanders[ at ]NOSPAMciber.com>
> | References: <C88CABEE-8927-43CA-92B5-259EFCFFF490[ at ]microsoft.com>
> <#nA6Q7jwHHA.1164[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
> <FD99C663-03B5-4F8D-9D45-24841494AA6B[ at ]microsoft.com>
> | Subject: Re: SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2
> | Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:05:50 -0600
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> |
> | I thought I could build a BDC with plain NT4
> | > server in a SBS 4.0 domain and then promote it to a PDC and shut down
> the
> | > old
> | > SBS 4.0 box. Is that wrong?
> |
> |
> | I have not worked with SBS. It has limitations that the "regular" server
> | does not have. Without SBS in the mix your plan will work. Not sure SBS
> will
> | allow another server other than the SBS server to be the PDC.
> |
> | If this is a problem you might be able to take the NT 4.0 BDC off the
> | network, then promote to PDC.
> |
> | hth
> | DDS
> |
> | "John N" <JohnN[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | news:FD99C663-03B5-4F8D-9D45-24841494AA6B[ at ]microsoft.com...
> | > Forget the trust for a minute, I thought I could build a BDC with plain
> | > NT4
> | > server in a SBS 4.0 domain and then promote it to a PDC and shut down
> the
> | > old
> | > SBS 4.0 box. Is that wrong?
> | > --
> | > JLN
> | >
> | >
> | > "Danny Sanders" wrote:
> | >
> | >> >Can I build an NT4 BDC on that domain and use that to establish
> | >> > a trust?
> | >>
> | >> No.
> | >>
> | >> >Even better, can I upgrade in place the BDC to Win2003r2?
> | >>
> | >> The PDC is the only DC on the NT 4.0 domain that holds a writeable
> copy
> | >> of
> | >> the SAM. In order to upgrade that NT 4.0 domain to Win 2k3 you must
> carry
> | >> that SAM into the Win 2k3 domain by upgrading the PDC. Upgrading *any*
> | >> *other* server will create a new SAM. To your domain clients new SAM =
> | >> new
> | >> domain.
> | >>
> | >>
> | >> hth
> | >> DDS
> | >>
> | >>
> | >> "John N" <JohnN[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | >> news:C88CABEE-8927-43CA-92B5-259EFCFFF490[ at ]microsoft.com...
> | >> >I need to migrate users from SBS 4.0 to Win2003r2. Cannot establish a
> | >> >trust
> | >> > to use ADMT. Can I build an NT4 BDC on that domain and use that to
> | >> > establish
> | >> > a trust? Even better, can I upgrade in place the BDC to Win2003r2?
> | >> >
> | >> > Thanks
> | >> > --
> | >> > JLN
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> |
> |
> |
>
>

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