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How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
Diane 02.07.2007 15:54:00
Hello - I have seen the posts on migrating NT4 to a clean win23k environment,
however, I have inherited a different situation and would greatly appreciate
some guidance.

Environment:
Servers: (3) Win2k (non-SBS) - 2DCs, (1) Win2003, (1) NT4
Clients: About 50 (all XP Pro except for one win 2K Pro).
Domains: (1) on an NT4 PDC, (1) win2k/AD

The NT4 server is used only for network logons under one domain (no BC).
There is also a second win2K domain (mixed mode) set up for exchange 2003
along with some other server apps. There is a trust relationship set up
between the two domains and, all clients have the same username/password in
both domains. We want to transition necessary settings from the NT box
to the Win2k environment and then upgrade the Win2k boxes.

1. I believe what has to be moved at this point is the client settings for
MS and 3rd party apps (e.g. Adobe, Blackberry Desktop and others). I have
looked at ADMT and ran some tests with
XPs File and Transfer Settings Wizard and simply copying the profile. They
did a decent job on most of the
Microsoft apps and desktop settings, but did drop enough that the manual
rework would be very time consuming. Third party apps like Blackberry, Adobe
and others were problematic. I have not tried ADMT as it requires native
mode and I'm a little concerned about causing issues between the domains that
would result in logon issues causing an immediate disaster.
Most tools I have seen assume a transition from the old domain to a new
domain that does not already have all the accounts/computers set up. I'm
willing to try ADMT if moving the win2k domain to native mode will not pose
a risk to the current environment. Please advise on this.

Also, are there other tools out there that would be better suited to the
task or, other approaches that make sense?

2. Are there other settings I need to worry about moving? Since the clients
already have accounts in the Win2K domains, I'm not seeing a reason to try to
move any security history, etc. Please advise if I'm missing something here.

3. Any information or pointers to help educate me would be much appreciated.

Thanks for your help.



Re: How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
"Danny Sanders" <DSanders[ at ]NOSPAMciber.com> 02.07.2007 16:37:18
.. I have not tried ADMT as it requires native
[Quoted Text]
> mode and I'm a little concerned about causing issues between the domains
> that
> would result in logon issues causing an immediate disaster.

The switch to native mode will affect the replication between a Win 2k DC
and a NT 4.0 BDC in the same domain. It has no affect on trusts, trusted
domains, clients in the NT or Win 2k domain, clients in trusted domains,
servers in trusted domains, BDCs in trusted domains. It ONLY prevents
replication between an AD DC and a NT 4.0 BDC in the same domain.

Add a user to a Win 2k native mode domain, using the Win 2k DC, and that
user will not get replicated to a NT 4.0 BDC in the same domain.

hth
DDS


"Diane" <Diane[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4DADC8CD-7811-424E-BD18-6745B531BC87[ at ]microsoft.com...
> Hello - I have seen the posts on migrating NT4 to a clean win23k
> environment,
> however, I have inherited a different situation and would greatly
> appreciate
> some guidance.
>
> Environment:
> Servers: (3) Win2k (non-SBS) - 2DCs, (1) Win2003, (1) NT4
> Clients: About 50 (all XP Pro except for one win 2K Pro).
> Domains: (1) on an NT4 PDC, (1) win2k/AD
>
> The NT4 server is used only for network logons under one domain (no BC).
> There is also a second win2K domain (mixed mode) set up for exchange 2003
> along with some other server apps. There is a trust relationship set up
> between the two domains and, all clients have the same username/password
> in
> both domains. We want to transition necessary settings from the NT box
> to the Win2k environment and then upgrade the Win2k boxes.
>
> 1. I believe what has to be moved at this point is the client settings for
> MS and 3rd party apps (e.g. Adobe, Blackberry Desktop and others). I
> have
> looked at ADMT and ran some tests with
> XPs File and Transfer Settings Wizard and simply copying the profile. They
> did a decent job on most of the
> Microsoft apps and desktop settings, but did drop enough that the manual
> rework would be very time consuming. Third party apps like Blackberry,
> Adobe
> and others were problematic. I have not tried ADMT as it requires native
> mode and I'm a little concerned about causing issues between the domains
> that
> would result in logon issues causing an immediate disaster.
> Most tools I have seen assume a transition from the old domain to a new
> domain that does not already have all the accounts/computers set up. I'm
> willing to try ADMT if moving the win2k domain to native mode will not
> pose
> a risk to the current environment. Please advise on this.
>
> Also, are there other tools out there that would be better suited to the
> task or, other approaches that make sense?
>
> 2. Are there other settings I need to worry about moving? Since the
> clients
> already have accounts in the Win2K domains, I'm not seeing a reason to try
> to
> move any security history, etc. Please advise if I'm missing something
> here.
>
> 3. Any information or pointers to help educate me would be much
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>


RE: How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
v-kzhao[ at ]online.microsoft.com ("Ken Zhao [MSFT]") 03.07.2007 03:09:34
Hello Diane,

Thank you for using newsgroup!

From your post, thanks for Danny Sanders's information. The following
information is for your reference:
Upgrading a Windows NT Domain to Windows 2000 Active Directory
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/ac
tivedirectory/deploy/upgrdmigrate/upgrnt.mspx

Migration of a Windows NT 4.0 Account Domain to Active Directory
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/deploy/cookbook
/cookchp9.mspx

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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| Hello - I have seen the posts on migrating NT4 to a clean win23k
environment,
| however, I have inherited a different situation and would greatly
appreciate
| some guidance.
|
| Environment:
| Servers: (3) Win2k (non-SBS) - 2DCs, (1) Win2003, (1) NT4
| Clients: About 50 (all XP Pro except for one win 2K Pro).
| Domains: (1) on an NT4 PDC, (1) win2k/AD
|
| The NT4 server is used only for network logons under one domain (no BC).
| There is also a second win2K domain (mixed mode) set up for exchange 2003
| along with some other server apps. There is a trust relationship set up
| between the two domains and, all clients have the same username/password
in
| both domains. We want to transition necessary settings from the NT box
| to the Win2k environment and then upgrade the Win2k boxes.
|
| 1. I believe what has to be moved at this point is the client settings
for
| MS and 3rd party apps (e.g. Adobe, Blackberry Desktop and others). I
have
| looked at ADMT and ran some tests with
| XPs File and Transfer Settings Wizard and simply copying the profile.
They
| did a decent job on most of the
| Microsoft apps and desktop settings, but did drop enough that the manual
| rework would be very time consuming. Third party apps like Blackberry,
Adobe
| and others were problematic. I have not tried ADMT as it requires native
| mode and I'm a little concerned about causing issues between the domains
that
| would result in logon issues causing an immediate disaster.
| Most tools I have seen assume a transition from the old domain to a new
| domain that does not already have all the accounts/computers set up. I'm
| willing to try ADMT if moving the win2k domain to native mode will not
pose
| a risk to the current environment. Please advise on this.
|
| Also, are there other tools out there that would be better suited to the
| task or, other approaches that make sense?
|
| 2. Are there other settings I need to worry about moving? Since the
clients
| already have accounts in the Win2K domains, I'm not seeing a reason to
try to
| move any security history, etc. Please advise if I'm missing something
here.
|
| 3. Any information or pointers to help educate me would be much
appreciated.
|
| Thanks for your help.
|
|
|
|

Re: How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
Diane 03.07.2007 16:08:03
Thanks Danny for your clear explanation of the implications of moving to
native mode. Very helpful.

Diane

"Danny Sanders" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> .. I have not tried ADMT as it requires native
> > mode and I'm a little concerned about causing issues between the domains
> > that
> > would result in logon issues causing an immediate disaster.
>
> The switch to native mode will affect the replication between a Win 2k DC
> and a NT 4.0 BDC in the same domain. It has no affect on trusts, trusted
> domains, clients in the NT or Win 2k domain, clients in trusted domains,
> servers in trusted domains, BDCs in trusted domains. It ONLY prevents
> replication between an AD DC and a NT 4.0 BDC in the same domain.
>
> Add a user to a Win 2k native mode domain, using the Win 2k DC, and that
> user will not get replicated to a NT 4.0 BDC in the same domain.
>
> hth
> DDS
>
>
> "Diane" <Diane[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4DADC8CD-7811-424E-BD18-6745B531BC87[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > Hello - I have seen the posts on migrating NT4 to a clean win23k
> > environment,
> > however, I have inherited a different situation and would greatly
> > appreciate
> > some guidance.
> >
> > Environment:
> > Servers: (3) Win2k (non-SBS) - 2DCs, (1) Win2003, (1) NT4
> > Clients: About 50 (all XP Pro except for one win 2K Pro).
> > Domains: (1) on an NT4 PDC, (1) win2k/AD
> >
> > The NT4 server is used only for network logons under one domain (no BC).
> > There is also a second win2K domain (mixed mode) set up for exchange 2003
> > along with some other server apps. There is a trust relationship set up
> > between the two domains and, all clients have the same username/password
> > in
> > both domains. We want to transition necessary settings from the NT box
> > to the Win2k environment and then upgrade the Win2k boxes.
> >
> > 1. I believe what has to be moved at this point is the client settings for
> > MS and 3rd party apps (e.g. Adobe, Blackberry Desktop and others). I
> > have
> > looked at ADMT and ran some tests with
> > XPs File and Transfer Settings Wizard and simply copying the profile. They
> > did a decent job on most of the
> > Microsoft apps and desktop settings, but did drop enough that the manual
> > rework would be very time consuming. Third party apps like Blackberry,
> > Adobe
> > and others were problematic. I have not tried ADMT as it requires native
> > mode and I'm a little concerned about causing issues between the domains
> > that
> > would result in logon issues causing an immediate disaster.
> > Most tools I have seen assume a transition from the old domain to a new
> > domain that does not already have all the accounts/computers set up. I'm
> > willing to try ADMT if moving the win2k domain to native mode will not
> > pose
> > a risk to the current environment. Please advise on this.
> >
> > Also, are there other tools out there that would be better suited to the
> > task or, other approaches that make sense?
> >
> > 2. Are there other settings I need to worry about moving? Since the
> > clients
> > already have accounts in the Win2K domains, I'm not seeing a reason to try
> > to
> > move any security history, etc. Please advise if I'm missing something
> > here.
> >
> > 3. Any information or pointers to help educate me would be much
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
RE: How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
Diane 03.07.2007 16:18:02
Ken,

Thanks for your references. It appears they too tackle the subject from
the perspective of moving from an NT domain to a new win2k domain. In this
situation, the win2k domain has been in place for years and the AD is already
populated with the users, groups, and computers. Can you advise further on
what settings must be moved in this case to retire the NT domain? My
thinking is it is only the client profiles. If so, can you further advise on
your recommendation for this task?

Thanks again,

Diane

""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Hello Diane,
>
> Thank you for using newsgroup!
>
> From your post, thanks for Danny Sanders's information. The following
> information is for your reference:
> Upgrading a Windows NT Domain to Windows 2000 Active Directory
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/ac
> tivedirectory/deploy/upgrdmigrate/upgrnt.mspx
>
> Migration of a Windows NT 4.0 Account Domain to Active Directory
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/deploy/cookbook
> /cookchp9.mspx
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Ken Zhao
>
> Microsoft Online Support
> Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security <http://www.microsoft.com/security>
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> | Hello - I have seen the posts on migrating NT4 to a clean win23k
> environment,
> | however, I have inherited a different situation and would greatly
> appreciate
> | some guidance.
> |
> | Environment:
> | Servers: (3) Win2k (non-SBS) - 2DCs, (1) Win2003, (1) NT4
> | Clients: About 50 (all XP Pro except for one win 2K Pro).
> | Domains: (1) on an NT4 PDC, (1) win2k/AD
> |
> | The NT4 server is used only for network logons under one domain (no BC).
> | There is also a second win2K domain (mixed mode) set up for exchange 2003
> | along with some other server apps. There is a trust relationship set up
> | between the two domains and, all clients have the same username/password
> in
> | both domains. We want to transition necessary settings from the NT box
> | to the Win2k environment and then upgrade the Win2k boxes.
> |
> | 1. I believe what has to be moved at this point is the client settings
> for
> | MS and 3rd party apps (e.g. Adobe, Blackberry Desktop and others). I
> have
> | looked at ADMT and ran some tests with
> | XPs File and Transfer Settings Wizard and simply copying the profile.
> They
> | did a decent job on most of the
> | Microsoft apps and desktop settings, but did drop enough that the manual
> | rework would be very time consuming. Third party apps like Blackberry,
> Adobe
> | and others were problematic. I have not tried ADMT as it requires native
> | mode and I'm a little concerned about causing issues between the domains
> that
> | would result in logon issues causing an immediate disaster.
> | Most tools I have seen assume a transition from the old domain to a new
> | domain that does not already have all the accounts/computers set up. I'm
> | willing to try ADMT if moving the win2k domain to native mode will not
> pose
> | a risk to the current environment. Please advise on this.
> |
> | Also, are there other tools out there that would be better suited to the
> | task or, other approaches that make sense?
> |
> | 2. Are there other settings I need to worry about moving? Since the
> clients
> | already have accounts in the Win2K domains, I'm not seeing a reason to
> try to
> | move any security history, etc. Please advise if I'm missing something
> here.
> |
> | 3. Any information or pointers to help educate me would be much
> appreciated.
> |
> | Thanks for your help.
> |
> |
> |
> |
>
>
RE: How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
v-kzhao[ at ]online.microsoft.com ("Ken Zhao [MSFT]") 06.07.2007 05:48:50
Hello Diane,

You may refer to the article links that contained some detailed information
about this migration.

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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| Ken,
|
| Thanks for your references. It appears they too tackle the subject from
| the perspective of moving from an NT domain to a new win2k domain. In
this
| situation, the win2k domain has been in place for years and the AD is
already
| populated with the users, groups, and computers. Can you advise further
on
| what settings must be moved in this case to retire the NT domain? My
| thinking is it is only the client profiles. If so, can you further
advise on
| your recommendation for this task?
|
| Thanks again,
|
| Diane
|
| ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote:
|
| > Hello Diane,
| >
| > Thank you for using newsgroup!
| >
| > From your post, thanks for Danny Sanders's information. The following
| > information is for your reference:
| > Upgrading a Windows NT Domain to Windows 2000 Active Directory
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/ac
| > tivedirectory/deploy/upgrdmigrate/upgrnt.mspx
| >
| > Migration of a Windows NT 4.0 Account Domain to Active Directory
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/deploy/cookbook
| > /cookchp9.mspx
| >
| > Thanks & Regards,
| >
| > Ken Zhao
| >
| > Microsoft Online Support
| > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
<http://www.microsoft.com/security>
| > ====================================================
| > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
so
| > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
| > ====================================================
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rights.
| >
| >
| >
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| > |
| > | Hello - I have seen the posts on migrating NT4 to a clean win23k
| > environment,
| > | however, I have inherited a different situation and would greatly
| > appreciate
| > | some guidance.
| > |
| > | Environment:
| > | Servers: (3) Win2k (non-SBS) - 2DCs, (1) Win2003, (1) NT4
| > | Clients: About 50 (all XP Pro except for one win 2K Pro).
| > | Domains: (1) on an NT4 PDC, (1) win2k/AD
| > |
| > | The NT4 server is used only for network logons under one domain (no
BC).
| > | There is also a second win2K domain (mixed mode) set up for exchange
2003
| > | along with some other server apps. There is a trust relationship set
up
| > | between the two domains and, all clients have the same
username/password
| > in
| > | both domains. We want to transition necessary settings from the NT box
| > | to the Win2k environment and then upgrade the Win2k boxes.
| > |
| > | 1. I believe what has to be moved at this point is the client
settings
| > for
| > | MS and 3rd party apps (e.g. Adobe, Blackberry Desktop and others).
I
| > have
| > | looked at ADMT and ran some tests with
| > | XPs File and Transfer Settings Wizard and simply copying the profile.
| > They
| > | did a decent job on most of the
| > | Microsoft apps and desktop settings, but did drop enough that the
manual
| > | rework would be very time consuming. Third party apps like
Blackberry,
| > Adobe
| > | and others were problematic. I have not tried ADMT as it requires
native
| > | mode and I'm a little concerned about causing issues between the
domains
| > that
| > | would result in logon issues causing an immediate disaster.
| > | Most tools I have seen assume a transition from the old domain to a
new
| > | domain that does not already have all the accounts/computers set up.
I'm
| > | willing to try ADMT if moving the win2k domain to native mode will
not
| > pose
| > | a risk to the current environment. Please advise on this.
| > |
| > | Also, are there other tools out there that would be better suited to
the
| > | task or, other approaches that make sense?
| > |
| > | 2. Are there other settings I need to worry about moving? Since the
| > clients
| > | already have accounts in the Win2K domains, I'm not seeing a reason
to
| > try to
| > | move any security history, etc. Please advise if I'm missing
something
| > here.
| > |
| > | 3. Any information or pointers to help educate me would be much
| > appreciated.
| > |
| > | Thanks for your help.
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|

RE: How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
Diane 06.07.2007 12:18:01
Thanks for your help Ken. I'll take another look at the links and may post
back with specific questions.

Diane

""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Hello Diane,
>
> You may refer to the article links that contained some detailed information
> about this migration.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Ken Zhao
>
> Microsoft Online Support
> Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
>
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> |
> | Ken,
> |
> | Thanks for your references. It appears they too tackle the subject from
> | the perspective of moving from an NT domain to a new win2k domain. In
> this
> | situation, the win2k domain has been in place for years and the AD is
> already
> | populated with the users, groups, and computers. Can you advise further
> on
> | what settings must be moved in this case to retire the NT domain? My
> | thinking is it is only the client profiles. If so, can you further
> advise on
> | your recommendation for this task?
> |
> | Thanks again,
> |
> | Diane
> |
> | ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote:
> |
> | > Hello Diane,
> | >
> | > Thank you for using newsgroup!
> | >
> | > From your post, thanks for Danny Sanders's information. The following
> | > information is for your reference:
> | > Upgrading a Windows NT Domain to Windows 2000 Active Directory
> | >
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/ac
> | > tivedirectory/deploy/upgrdmigrate/upgrnt.mspx
> | >
> | > Migration of a Windows NT 4.0 Account Domain to Active Directory
> | >
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/deploy/cookbook
> | > /cookchp9.mspx
> | >
> | > Thanks & Regards,
> | >
> | > Ken Zhao
> | >
> | > Microsoft Online Support
> | > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
> | >
> | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> <http://www.microsoft.com/security>
> | > ====================================================
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> so
> | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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> | > | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.193.207
> | > | From: =?Utf-8?B?RGlhbmU=?= <Diane[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com>
> | > | Subject: How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
> | > | Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:54:00 -0700
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> | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148
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> | > |
> | > | Hello - I have seen the posts on migrating NT4 to a clean win23k
> | > environment,
> | > | however, I have inherited a different situation and would greatly
> | > appreciate
> | > | some guidance.
> | > |
> | > | Environment:
> | > | Servers: (3) Win2k (non-SBS) - 2DCs, (1) Win2003, (1) NT4
> | > | Clients: About 50 (all XP Pro except for one win 2K Pro).
> | > | Domains: (1) on an NT4 PDC, (1) win2k/AD
> | > |
> | > | The NT4 server is used only for network logons under one domain (no
> BC).
> | > | There is also a second win2K domain (mixed mode) set up for exchange
> 2003
> | > | along with some other server apps. There is a trust relationship set
> up
> | > | between the two domains and, all clients have the same
> username/password
> | > in
> | > | both domains. We want to transition necessary settings from the NT box
> | > | to the Win2k environment and then upgrade the Win2k boxes.
> | > |
> | > | 1. I believe what has to be moved at this point is the client
> settings
> | > for
> | > | MS and 3rd party apps (e.g. Adobe, Blackberry Desktop and others).
> I
> | > have
> | > | looked at ADMT and ran some tests with
> | > | XPs File and Transfer Settings Wizard and simply copying the profile.
> | > They
> | > | did a decent job on most of the
> | > | Microsoft apps and desktop settings, but did drop enough that the
> manual
> | > | rework would be very time consuming. Third party apps like
> Blackberry,
> | > Adobe
> | > | and others were problematic. I have not tried ADMT as it requires
> native
> | > | mode and I'm a little concerned about causing issues between the
> domains
> | > that
> | > | would result in logon issues causing an immediate disaster.
> | > | Most tools I have seen assume a transition from the old domain to a
> new
> | > | domain that does not already have all the accounts/computers set up.
> I'm
> | > | willing to try ADMT if moving the win2k domain to native mode will
> not
> | > pose
> | > | a risk to the current environment. Please advise on this.
> | > |
> | > | Also, are there other tools out there that would be better suited to
> the
> | > | task or, other approaches that make sense?
> | > |
> | > | 2. Are there other settings I need to worry about moving? Since the
> | > clients
> | > | already have accounts in the Win2K domains, I'm not seeing a reason
> to
> | > try to
> | > | move any security history, etc. Please advise if I'm missing
> something
> | > here.
> | > |
> | > | 3. Any information or pointers to help educate me would be much
> | > appreciated.
> | > |
> | > | Thanks for your help.
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>
RE: How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
v-kzhao[ at ]online.microsoft.com ("Ken Zhao [MSFT]") 10.07.2007 05:48:11
Ok.

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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| Thanks for your help Ken. I'll take another look at the links and may
post
| back with specific questions.
|
| Diane
|
| ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote:
|
| > Hello Diane,
| >
| > You may refer to the article links that contained some detailed
information
| > about this migration.
| >
| > Thanks & Regards,
| >
| > Ken Zhao
| >
| > Microsoft Online Support
| > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
<http://www.microsoft.com/security>
| > ====================================================
| > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
so
| > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
| > ====================================================
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| >
| >
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| > | References: <4DADC8CD-7811-424E-BD18-6745B531BC87[ at ]microsoft.com>
| > <G2xGZ#RvHHA.2220[ at ]TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl>
| > | Subject: RE: How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
| > | Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:18:02 -0700
| > | Lines: 133
| > | Message-ID: <2CF25ABB-E2D1-47AD-A4AF-A79F72C7B7E6[ at ]microsoft.com>
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| > | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148
| > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
| > |
| > | Ken,
| > |
| > | Thanks for your references. It appears they too tackle the subject
from
| > | the perspective of moving from an NT domain to a new win2k domain.
In
| > this
| > | situation, the win2k domain has been in place for years and the AD is
| > already
| > | populated with the users, groups, and computers. Can you advise
further
| > on
| > | what settings must be moved in this case to retire the NT domain? My
| > | thinking is it is only the client profiles. If so, can you further
| > advise on
| > | your recommendation for this task?
| > |
| > | Thanks again,
| > |
| > | Diane
| > |
| > | ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hello Diane,
| > | >
| > | > Thank you for using newsgroup!
| > | >
| > | > From your post, thanks for Danny Sanders's information. The
following
| > | > information is for your reference:
| > | > Upgrading a Windows NT Domain to Windows 2000 Active Directory
| > | >
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/ac
| > | > tivedirectory/deploy/upgrdmigrate/upgrnt.mspx
| > | >
| > | > Migration of a Windows NT 4.0 Account Domain to Active Directory
| > | >
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/deploy/cookbook
| > | > /cookchp9.mspx
| > | >
| > | > Thanks & Regards,
| > | >
| > | > Ken Zhao
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft Online Support
| > | > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
| > | >
| > | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > <http://www.microsoft.com/security>
| > | > ====================================================
| > | > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your
newsreader
| > so
| > | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
| > | > ====================================================
| > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| > rights.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
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| > | > --------------------
| > | > | Thread-Topic: How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
| > | > | thread-index: Ace8wTTPZfINdgHkQI6SqpH3nFcBGA==
| > | > | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.193.207
| > | > | From: =?Utf-8?B?RGlhbmU=?= <Diane[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com>
| > | > | Subject: How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
| > | > | Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:54:00 -0700
| > | > | Lines: 44
| > | > | Message-ID: <4DADC8CD-7811-424E-BD18-6745B531BC87[ at ]microsoft.com>
| > | > | MIME-Version: 1.0
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| > | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148
| > | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.migration
| > | > |
| > | > | Hello - I have seen the posts on migrating NT4 to a clean win23k
| > | > environment,
| > | > | however, I have inherited a different situation and would greatly
| > | > appreciate
| > | > | some guidance.
| > | > |
| > | > | Environment:
| > | > | Servers: (3) Win2k (non-SBS) - 2DCs, (1) Win2003, (1) NT4
| > | > | Clients: About 50 (all XP Pro except for one win 2K Pro).
| > | > | Domains: (1) on an NT4 PDC, (1) win2k/AD
| > | > |
| > | > | The NT4 server is used only for network logons under one domain
(no
| > BC).
| > | > | There is also a second win2K domain (mixed mode) set up for
exchange
| > 2003
| > | > | along with some other server apps. There is a trust relationship
set
| > up
| > | > | between the two domains and, all clients have the same
| > username/password
| > | > in
| > | > | both domains. We want to transition necessary settings from the
NT box
| > | > | to the Win2k environment and then upgrade the Win2k boxes.
| > | > |
| > | > | 1. I believe what has to be moved at this point is the client
| > settings
| > | > for
| > | > | MS and 3rd party apps (e.g. Adobe, Blackberry Desktop and
others).
| > I
| > | > have
| > | > | looked at ADMT and ran some tests with
| > | > | XPs File and Transfer Settings Wizard and simply copying the
profile.
| > | > They
| > | > | did a decent job on most of the
| > | > | Microsoft apps and desktop settings, but did drop enough that the
| > manual
| > | > | rework would be very time consuming. Third party apps like
| > Blackberry,
| > | > Adobe
| > | > | and others were problematic. I have not tried ADMT as it requires
| > native
| > | > | mode and I'm a little concerned about causing issues between the
| > domains
| > | > that
| > | > | would result in logon issues causing an immediate disaster.
| > | > | Most tools I have seen assume a transition from the old domain to
a
| > new
| > | > | domain that does not already have all the accounts/computers set
up.
| > I'm
| > | > | willing to try ADMT if moving the win2k domain to native mode
will
| > not
| > | > pose
| > | > | a risk to the current environment. Please advise on this.
| > | > |
| > | > | Also, are there other tools out there that would be better suited
to
| > the
| > | > | task or, other approaches that make sense?
| > | > |
| > | > | 2. Are there other settings I need to worry about moving? Since
the
| > | > clients
| > | > | already have accounts in the Win2K domains, I'm not seeing a
reason
| > to
| > | > try to
| > | > | move any security history, etc. Please advise if I'm missing
| > something
| > | > here.
| > | > |
| > | > | 3. Any information or pointers to help educate me would be much
| > | > appreciated.
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks for your help.
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|

RE: How to Eliminate NT Domain/Move Settings to Win2k
v-kzhao[ at ]online.microsoft.com ("Ken Zhao [MSFT]") 12.07.2007 11:17:28
Hi,

I am just writing to see how everything is going. If you have any updates
or need any further assistance on this issue, please feel free to let me
know.

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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| Ok.
|
| Thanks & Regards,
|
| Ken Zhao
|
| Microsoft Online Support
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|
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| | Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 05:18:01 -0700
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| |
| | Thanks for your help Ken. I'll take another look at the links and may
| post
| | back with specific questions.
| |
| | Diane
| |
| | ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote:
| |
| | > Hello Diane,
| | >
| | > You may refer to the article links that contained some detailed
| information
| | > about this migration.
| | >
| | > Thanks & Regards,
| | >
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| | > | Ken,
| | > |
| | > | Thanks for your references. It appears they too tackle the
subject
| from
| | > | the perspective of moving from an NT domain to a new win2k domain.
| In
| | > this
| | > | situation, the win2k domain has been in place for years and the AD
is
| | > already
| | > | populated with the users, groups, and computers. Can you advise
| further
| | > on
| | > | what settings must be moved in this case to retire the NT domain?
My
| | > | thinking is it is only the client profiles. If so, can you further
| | > advise on
| | > | your recommendation for this task?
| | > |
| | > | Thanks again,
| | > |
| | > | Diane
| | > |
| | > | ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote:
| | > |
| | > | > Hello Diane,
| | > | >
| | > | > Thank you for using newsgroup!
| | > | >
| | > | > From your post, thanks for Danny Sanders's information. The
| following
| | > | > information is for your reference:
| | > | > Upgrading a Windows NT Domain to Windows 2000 Active Directory
| | > | >
| | >
|
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/ac
| | > | > tivedirectory/deploy/upgrdmigrate/upgrnt.mspx
| | > | >
| | > | > Migration of a Windows NT 4.0 Account Domain to Active Directory
| | > | >
| | >
|
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/deploy/cookbook
| | > | > /cookchp9.mspx
| | > | >
| | > | > Thanks & Regards,
| | > | >
| | > | > Ken Zhao
| | > | >
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| | > | > | Hello - I have seen the posts on migrating NT4 to a clean
win23k
| | > | > environment,
| | > | > | however, I have inherited a different situation and would
greatly
| | > | > appreciate
| | > | > | some guidance.
| | > | > |
| | > | > | Environment:
| | > | > | Servers: (3) Win2k (non-SBS) - 2DCs, (1) Win2003, (1) NT4
| | > | > | Clients: About 50 (all XP Pro except for one win 2K Pro).
| | > | > | Domains: (1) on an NT4 PDC, (1) win2k/AD
| | > | > |
| | > | > | The NT4 server is used only for network logons under one domain
| (no
| | > BC).
| | > | > | There is also a second win2K domain (mixed mode) set up for
| exchange
| | > 2003
| | > | > | along with some other server apps. There is a trust
relationship
| set
| | > up
| | > | > | between the two domains and, all clients have the same
| | > username/password
| | > | > in
| | > | > | both domains. We want to transition necessary settings from the
| NT box
| | > | > | to the Win2k environment and then upgrade the Win2k boxes.
| | > | > |
| | > | > | 1. I believe what has to be moved at this point is the client
| | > settings
| | > | > for
| | > | > | MS and 3rd party apps (e.g. Adobe, Blackberry Desktop and
| others).
| | > I
| | > | > have
| | > | > | looked at ADMT and ran some tests with
| | > | > | XPs File and Transfer Settings Wizard and simply copying the
| profile.
| | > | > They
| | > | > | did a decent job on most of the
| | > | > | Microsoft apps and desktop settings, but did drop enough that
the
| | > manual
| | > | > | rework would be very time consuming. Third party apps like
| | > Blackberry,
| | > | > Adobe
| | > | > | and others were problematic. I have not tried ADMT as it
requires
| | > native
| | > | > | mode and I'm a little concerned about causing issues between
the
| | > domains
| | > | > that
| | > | > | would result in logon issues causing an immediate disaster.
| | > | > | Most tools I have seen assume a transition from the old domain
to
| a
| | > new
| | > | > | domain that does not already have all the accounts/computers
set
| up.
| | > I'm
| | > | > | willing to try ADMT if moving the win2k domain to native mode
| will
| | > not
| | > | > pose
| | > | > | a risk to the current environment. Please advise on this.
| | > | > |
| | > | > | Also, are there other tools out there that would be better
suited
| to
| | > the
| | > | > | task or, other approaches that make sense?
| | > | > |
| | > | > | 2. Are there other settings I need to worry about moving? Since
| the
| | > | > clients
| | > | > | already have accounts in the Win2K domains, I'm not seeing a
| reason
| | > to
| | > | > try to
| | > | > | move any security history, etc. Please advise if I'm missing
| | > something
| | > | > here.
| | > | > |
| | > | > | 3. Any information or pointers to help educate me would be much
| | > | > appreciated.
| | > | > |
| | > | > | Thanks for your help.
| | > | > |
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