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Why cant i tell Media Center to use desktop resolution
Qjet 02.07.2007 08:08:04
When i first got vista i went through media centers wizard to configure it to
my HDTV, coincidentally i use the HDTV as a monitor for my computer, its a
nice setup. Anyway when i had originally installed vista i was having trouble
with getting the resolution to fill the screen, this problem has since
passed, and ive got it exactly within the dimensions of the TV. But now Media
center is still using this 720P resolution, it is very close to the
resolution im using, but it still requires my video card to change
resolutions every time i go in or out of the program...

....

....
guess what
you cant change it back. Or at least thats what im finding, There doesn't
appear to be a way to completely revert to the defaults. Hell im not even
sure if i can uninstall and reinstall it. Media center isn't worth using if i
have to wait 5 seconds every time i alt tab in and out. I go in and out of
programs alot, My alt Tab key is showing wear. So 5 seconds of waiting going
in, and 5 seconds of waiting going out adds up to months of my time.

I don't really care how brutal the solution is, can i get media center to
revert to the absolute defaults and use the desktop resolution.
RE: Why cant i tell Media Center to use desktop resolution
Qjet 03.07.2007 04:18:01
oooo k... ill summarize

i want to set windows media center to the current desktop resolution... how?
RE: Why cant i tell Media Center to use desktop resolution
Qjet 05.07.2007 11:34:01
I interpret silence as "Microsoft sucks" by the way.
Re: Why cant i tell Media Center to use desktop resolution
Gene E. Bloch <spamfree[ at ]nobody.invalid> 06.07.2007 00:51:50
On 7/05/2007, Qjet posted this:
[Quoted Text]
> I interpret silence as "Microsoft sucks" by the way.

It might interest you to know that this newsgroup is hosted by, but not
controlled by, Microsoft. All the people who respond to posts do so
voluntarily, and most of them have no connection with Microsoft.

Your response above certainly has the effect of making me not wish to
give you any further information. Anyway, I have no choice - I have no
idea how to solve your problem.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")


Re: Why cant i tell Media Center to use desktop resolution
Nigel Barker <nigel[ at ]hp.com> 06.07.2007 09:17:38
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:51:50 -0700, Gene E. Bloch <spamfree[ at ]nobody.invalid> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>On 7/05/2007, Qjet posted this:
>> I interpret silence as "Microsoft sucks" by the way.
>
>It might interest you to know that this newsgroup is hosted by, but not
>controlled by, Microsoft. All the people who respond to posts do so
>voluntarily, and most of them have no connection with Microsoft.
>
>Your response above certainly has the effect of making me not wish to
>give you any further information. Anyway, I have no choice - I have no
>idea how to solve your problem.

It sounds like it's a problem with the graphics driver but as the OP hasn't given any information on
the graphics card, driver or even what version of Media center he/she is using then it's a bit
difficult to provide any answer.
--

Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur
MCE MVP
Re: Why cant i tell Media Center to use desktop resolution
Qjet 07.07.2007 13:56:01
on 7/5/2007 5:54 PM PST Gene:
[Quoted Text]
>It might interest you to know
already know
>and most of them have no connection with Microsoft.
other then posting on their tech support forum of course

getting no response at all is an obvious equation to "There is no solution
to this very simple problem" which equates to microsoft doing a bad job
making the program function well for both beginner and advanced users (its
really not that hard!).

>Your response above certainly has the effect of making me not wish to
>give you any further information.

because you took offense to it? WHY? Because i made the statement "If this
problem has no answer then microsoft sucks?"
you just said that the volunteers on this forum have no affiliation with
Microsoft.
If anything you should be joining me in a giggle. But don't worry there is
still a chance...
>I have no idea how to solve your problem.
say it with me now "Microsoft su... " :)

On 7/6/2007 2:21 AM PST Nigel:
>It sounds like it's a problem with the graphics driver
its not
>driver
not a chance
>Media center version
unlikely as the lottery.

see when i saw media center didn't give me any information on version
anywhere i could find, i could only assume that windows update included media
center in the patches, and therefore media center could be assumed to be the
latest version.

infact
more then likely
this is the case

seriously, is there a CFG file hidden somewhere i can play with?
how about some registry keys?

Re: Why cant i tell Media Center to use desktop resolution
Nigel Barker <nigel[ at ]hp.com> 07.07.2007 16:42:29
On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 06:56:01 -0700, Qjet <Qjet[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
>On 7/6/2007 2:21 AM PST Nigel:
>>It sounds like it's a problem with the graphics driver
>its not
>>driver
>not a chance
>>Media center version
>unlikely as the lottery.
>
>see when i saw media center didn't give me any information on version
>anywhere i could find, i could only assume that windows update included media
>center in the patches, and therefore media center could be assumed to be the

Why can't you accept that it is very likely to be a graphics driver problem? Perhaps you could tell
us what graphics card & what version driver you have.

There are four, five or six versions of media Center depending how you count it.
Windows XP Media Center Edition
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2004
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 Service Release 2
Vista Media Center (Home Premium or Ultimate)

I guess that you would probably know if you had Vista & if you did whether it was Home Premium or
Ultimate. If you want to know what version of Windows XP Media Center you have then look in the MCE
menu at Settings>General>About>Software Version then let us know.
--

Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur
MCE MVP
Re: Why cant i tell Media Center to use desktop resolution
Gene E. Bloch <spamfree[ at ]nobody.invalid> 08.07.2007 00:03:23
On 7/07/2007, Qjet posted this:
[Quoted Text]
> on 7/5/2007 5:54 PM PST Gene:
>> It might interest you to know already know
>> and most of them have no connection with Microsoft.
> other then posting on their tech support forum of course
>
> getting no response at all is an obvious equation to "There is no solution
> to this very simple problem" which equates to microsoft doing a bad job
> making the program function well for both beginner and advanced users (its
> really not that hard!).
>
>> Your response above certainly has the effect of making me not wish to
>> give you any further information.
>
> because you took offense to it? WHY? Because i made the statement "If this
> problem has no answer then microsoft sucks?"
> you just said that the volunteers on this forum have no affiliation with
> Microsoft.
> If anything you should be joining me in a giggle. But don't worry there is
> still a chance...
>> I have no idea how to solve your problem.
> say it with me now "Microsoft su... " :)
>
> On 7/6/2007 2:21 AM PST Nigel:
>> It sounds like it's a problem with the graphics driver its not
>> driver
> not a chance
>> Media center version
> unlikely as the lottery.
>
> see when i saw media center didn't give me any information on version
> anywhere i could find, i could only assume that windows update included media
> center in the patches, and therefore media center could be assumed to be the
> latest version.
>
> infact
> more then likely
> this is the case
>
> seriously, is there a CFG file hidden somewhere i can play with?
> how about some registry keys?

Nah, I'm not going to say what you said. (Note how deftly I sidestepped
it! Pure talent.)

Luckily, Nigel Barker has kinder impulses than I do (or at least than I
did with you :-) ), and if you read & understand his first reply,
you'll learn a bit about one reason for getting no help.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")


Re: Why cant i tell Media Center to use desktop resolution
Qjet 08.07.2007 16:44:02
"Nigel Barker" wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Why can't you accept that it is very likely to be a graphics driver problem? Perhaps you could tell
> us what graphics card & what version driver you have.

* WMC is set to an incorrect resolution
* of the options it offers, none of the resolutions are correct
* the desktop is set to the correct resolution
* the desktops resolution is nonstandard
* this is likely Vista Media Center Ultimate

I've discussed this with 3 separate sources before saying this
there are no symptoms within this that even BEGIN to point to a problem with
drivers of my display adapter or the display adapter itself. I don't
acknowledge the possibility exists, because it doesn't exist.

So while me saying microsoft might suck if theres no answer to this, might
incline people not to help...

You suggesting a problem that doesn't explain any symptoms at all might
incline me not to listen, and probably get me to encourage other people not
to listen either.

I'm after the right answer, so i won't allow this to go down a road that
will lead to a dead end. Me, and the people that will follow me looking for
an answer to this similar problem, only want the solution, the right
solution. Wow what an unreasonable ultimatum huh?
Re: Why cant i tell Media Center to use desktop resolution
"Jaime" <nospamfor-jaimelobo[ at ]worldnet.att.net> 09.07.2007 00:52:26
You really need to learn something about manners and etiquette. You come to
this board looking for help, but refuse to answer even the most basic
questions that are asked to try to help. No one is getting paid to be here,
it's just other users trying to help one another. I'm not sure why you are
even here, you clearly know more than everyone else on this board.

Can't tell you how many time people have come to this board, bitching that
it all the fault of Windows or Media Center or Bill Gates and refuse to take
even the simplest of suggestions, because (like you) they are computer
geniuses and already *know* that can't be the answer. Then low and behold
the final solution is some stupid mistake on their part, like not installing
a proper decoder or trying to use a non-compliant video card or not being
able to follow instructions during the install procedure.
--
James
Orlando (Goofy says "Hey!"), FL



"Qjet" <Qjet[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CD548DCE-B543-4F49-A7FB-35EE27D2FD14[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> "Nigel Barker" wrote:
>> Why can't you accept that it is very likely to be a graphics driver
>> problem? Perhaps you could tell
>> us what graphics card & what version driver you have.
>
> * WMC is set to an incorrect resolution
> * of the options it offers, none of the resolutions are correct
> * the desktop is set to the correct resolution
> * the desktops resolution is nonstandard
> * this is likely Vista Media Center Ultimate
>
> I've discussed this with 3 separate sources before saying this
> there are no symptoms within this that even BEGIN to point to a problem
> with
> drivers of my display adapter or the display adapter itself. I don't
> acknowledge the possibility exists, because it doesn't exist.
>
> So while me saying microsoft might suck if theres no answer to this, might
> incline people not to help...
>
> You suggesting a problem that doesn't explain any symptoms at all might
> incline me not to listen, and probably get me to encourage other people
> not
> to listen either.
>
> I'm after the right answer, so i won't allow this to go down a road that
> will lead to a dead end. Me, and the people that will follow me looking
> for
> an answer to this similar problem, only want the solution, the right
> solution. Wow what an unreasonable ultimatum huh?


Re: Why cant i tell Media Center to use desktop resolution
Nigel Barker <nigel[ at ]hp.com> 09.07.2007 15:47:24
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 09:44:02 -0700, Qjet <Qjet[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>"Nigel Barker" wrote:
>> Why can't you accept that it is very likely to be a graphics driver problem? Perhaps you could tell
>> us what graphics card & what version driver you have.
>
>* WMC is set to an incorrect resolution

What incorrect resolution?

>* of the options it offers, none of the resolutions are correct
>* the desktop is set to the correct resolution

So what is the correct resolution?

>* the desktops resolution is nonstandard

Have you set it to some wacky resolution with Powerstrip or similar?

>* this is likely Vista Media Center Ultimate

Start>Right Click on Computer>Properties will tell you definitively.

>I've discussed this with 3 separate sources before saying this
>there are no symptoms within this that even BEGIN to point to a problem with
>drivers of my display adapter or the display adapter itself. I don't
>acknowledge the possibility exists, because it doesn't exist.

Just humour me. What graphics card do you have & what version of the driver?

>So while me saying microsoft might suck if theres no answer to this, might
>incline people not to help...
>
>You suggesting a problem that doesn't explain any symptoms at all might
>incline me not to listen, and probably get me to encourage other people not
>to listen either.
>
>I'm after the right answer, so i won't allow this to go down a road that
>will lead to a dead end. Me, and the people that will follow me looking for
>an answer to this similar problem, only want the solution, the right
>solution. Wow what an unreasonable ultimatum huh?

When I look at Tasks>Settings>General>Windows Media Center Setup>Configure Your TV or
Monitor...(bunch of other screens)...Select Your Display Resolution>List All Modes I get a listing
of all 88 permutations of resolution, colour depths & frequency that my graphics card & driver is
capable of displaying just like I get in Display Properties outside of Media Center. I can set Media
Center to any of those modes independently of what my desktop mode is. Are you saying that none of
those settings matches your desktop resolution?
--

Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur
MCE MVP
Re: Why cant i tell Media Center to use desktop resolution
Qjet 12.07.2007 23:16:01
OH MY GOD
I cant believe you gave me a piece of advice i could use outside of how
wonderfully important knowing the display adapter is.
I answered WMC truthfully, this is why i didn't get the results i expected.
I told it i was using composite HDTV cables.

So instead of that i lied to it, I told WMC that it was piping out to a
monitor and not a TV and it listed off the appropriate display modes.

Which means WMC is now set to the correct resolution

Oh BTW
my display adapter is a Nvidia Geforce 7600 GT
Working perfectly, with drivers up to date...

Thank god i told you or we would NEVER of figured it out
Now if you will excuse me ill go stand in front of a mirror and practice my
etiquette

old chap.

Solution to this problem: Lie to WMC
oh and update your video drivers lol.

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