Odd Section Breaks Griff 30.08.2006 13:02:02 Hi I have a document which needs to be printed double sided. New sections should start on a new page, but on an odd page. However, I want the page numbers to continue. For example, I put an odd page break after page 9. If printed then page 9 will print double sided with a blank page on the back (which is correct). I then want to insert a new odd section, but I want the page number to start at page 10....(and not 11). Any ideas. Apologises if this has already been answered, but I have spent an hour looking through all the messages.

Re: Odd Section Breaks "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman[ at ]verizon.net> 30.08.2006 14:12:06 There's no way I've ever seen to coerce Word into printing genuinely even-numbered pages on the "front" side of duplexed sheets. That means you can't use the "set section starting page" function for this. However, the "page number" that prints on the paper doesn't have to be the real page number. :-) If you know that section 1 will end on an odd page and there will be a blank unnumbered page on the back of it, you can open the header/footer of section 2 and replace the {Page} field with {= {Page} - 1}. The result of this field will be 1 less than the actual page number. Don't try to set this up until the document has been completely edited and formatted. Otherwise you'll get into a near-endless round of adjusting the page numbers after every edit. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. Griff wrote: [Quoted Text] > Hi > I have a document which needs to be printed double sided. New > sections should start on a new page, but on an odd page. However, I > want the page numbers to continue. > > For example, I put an odd page break after page 9. If printed then > page 9 will print double sided with a blank page on the back (which > is correct). I then want to insert a new odd section, but I want the > page number to start at page 10....(and not 11). > > Any ideas. Apologises if this has already been answered, but I have > spent an hour looking through all the messages.

Re: Odd Section Breaks "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> 30.08.2006 15:25:22 Note, however, that this is a very perverse and confusing thing to do. Publishing convention is that odd pages are always verso (right-hand) pages and vice versa. That's what readers expect, and you'll only confuse them if you buck the convention. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman[ at ]verizon.net> wrote in message news:OEZMH5DzGHA.1936[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > There's no way I've ever seen to coerce Word into printing genuinely > even-numbered pages on the "front" side of duplexed sheets. That means you > can't use the "set section starting page" function for this. However, the > "page number" that prints on the paper doesn't have to be the real page > number. :-) > > If you know that section 1 will end on an odd page and there will be a blank > unnumbered page on the back of it, you can open the header/footer of section > 2 and replace the {Page} field with {= {Page} - 1}. The result of this field > will be 1 less than the actual page number. > > Don't try to set this up until the document has been completely edited and > formatted. Otherwise you'll get into a near-endless round of adjusting the > page numbers after every edit. > > -- > Regards, > Jay Freedman > Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so > all may benefit. > > Griff wrote: > > Hi > > I have a document which needs to be printed double sided. New > > sections should start on a new page, but on an odd page. However, I > > want the page numbers to continue. > > > > For example, I put an odd page break after page 9. If printed then > > page 9 will print double sided with a blank page on the back (which > > is correct). I then want to insert a new odd section, but I want the > > page number to start at page 10....(and not 11). > > > > Any ideas. Apologises if this has already been answered, but I have > > spent an hour looking through all the messages. > >

Re: Odd Section Breaks "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman[ at ]verizon.net> 30.08.2006 16:27:01 True, but for some people perversity is the spice of life. <g> Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: [Quoted Text] > Note, however, that this is a very perverse and confusing thing to do. > Publishing convention is that odd pages are always verso (right-hand) > pages and vice versa. That's what readers expect, and you'll only > confuse them if you buck the convention. > > > "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman[ at ]verizon.net> wrote in message > news:OEZMH5DzGHA.1936[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> There's no way I've ever seen to coerce Word into printing genuinely >> even-numbered pages on the "front" side of duplexed sheets. That >> means you can't use the "set section starting page" function for >> this. However, the "page number" that prints on the paper doesn't >> have to be the real page number. :-) >> >> If you know that section 1 will end on an odd page and there will be >> a blank unnumbered page on the back of it, you can open the >> header/footer of section 2 and replace the {Page} field with {= >> {Page} - 1}. The result of this field will be 1 less than the actual >> page number. >> >> Don't try to set this up until the document has been completely >> edited and formatted. Otherwise you'll get into a near-endless round >> of adjusting the page numbers after every edit. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Jay Freedman >> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org >> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the >> newsgroup so all may benefit. >> >> Griff wrote: >>> Hi >>> I have a document which needs to be printed double sided. New >>> sections should start on a new page, but on an odd page. However, I >>> want the page numbers to continue. >>> >>> For example, I put an odd page break after page 9. If printed then >>> page 9 will print double sided with a blank page on the back (which >>> is correct). I then want to insert a new odd section, but I want >>> the page number to start at page 10....(and not 11). >>> >>> Any ideas. Apologises if this has already been answered, but I have >>> spent an hour looking through all the messages.

Re: Odd Section Breaks Griff 08.09.2006 13:18:02 Hi, I agree it is very perverse, but when you are putting a document into PDF format, then the blank pages do not show....so the page numbers jump, for example page 1,2,3....5... However, is there a way of creating an IF statement in word. For example, if the previous page is blank then PAGE NUMBER is -1, otherwise PAGE NUMBER stays the same. Sorry to be a pain. "Jay Freedman" wrote: [Quoted Text] > True, but for some people perversity is the spice of life. <g> > > Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: > > Note, however, that this is a very perverse and confusing thing to do. > > Publishing convention is that odd pages are always verso (right-hand) > > pages and vice versa. That's what readers expect, and you'll only > > confuse them if you buck the convention. > > > > > > "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman[ at ]verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:OEZMH5DzGHA.1936[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> There's no way I've ever seen to coerce Word into printing genuinely > >> even-numbered pages on the "front" side of duplexed sheets. That > >> means you can't use the "set section starting page" function for > >> this. However, the "page number" that prints on the paper doesn't > >> have to be the real page number. :-) > >> > >> If you know that section 1 will end on an odd page and there will be > >> a blank unnumbered page on the back of it, you can open the > >> header/footer of section 2 and replace the {Page} field with {= > >> {Page} - 1}. The result of this field will be 1 less than the actual > >> page number. > >> > >> Don't try to set this up until the document has been completely > >> edited and formatted. Otherwise you'll get into a near-endless round > >> of adjusting the page numbers after every edit. > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> Jay Freedman > >> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org > >> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the > >> newsgroup so all may benefit. > >> > >> Griff wrote: > >>> Hi > >>> I have a document which needs to be printed double sided. New > >>> sections should start on a new page, but on an odd page. However, I > >>> want the page numbers to continue. > >>> > >>> For example, I put an odd page break after page 9. If printed then > >>> page 9 will print double sided with a blank page on the back (which > >>> is correct). I then want to insert a new odd section, but I want > >>> the page number to start at page 10....(and not 11). > >>> > >>> Any ideas. Apologises if this has already been answered, but I have > >>> spent an hour looking through all the messages. > > >

Re: Odd Section Breaks "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman[ at ]verizon.net> 08.09.2006 13:41:23 Although there is an IF field construct, I don't think there's a way to make it depend on whether the preceding page is blank -- the field doesn't know anything about the preceding page. But "printing" to PDF is quite different from printing on paper; for one thing, there's no concept of "duplex" in PDF. Make a copy of your document specifically for PDF conversion, and fix it up as described in http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFldsFms/InsEvnPgEndChap.htm. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. Griff wrote: [Quoted Text] > Hi, I agree it is very perverse, but when you are putting a document > into PDF format, then the blank pages do not show....so the page > numbers jump, for example page 1,2,3....5... > > However, is there a way of creating an IF statement in word. For > example, if the previous page is blank then PAGE NUMBER is -1, > otherwise PAGE NUMBER stays the same. > > Sorry to be a pain. > > > "Jay Freedman" wrote: > >> True, but for some people perversity is the spice of life. <g> >> >> Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: >>> Note, however, that this is a very perverse and confusing thing to >>> do. Publishing convention is that odd pages are always verso >>> (right-hand) pages and vice versa. That's what readers expect, and >>> you'll only confuse them if you buck the convention. >>> >>> >>> "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman[ at ]verizon.net> wrote in message >>> news:OEZMH5DzGHA.1936[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> There's no way I've ever seen to coerce Word into printing >>>> genuinely even-numbered pages on the "front" side of duplexed >>>> sheets. That means you can't use the "set section starting page" >>>> function for this. However, the "page number" that prints on the >>>> paper doesn't have to be the real page number. :-) >>>> >>>> If you know that section 1 will end on an odd page and there will >>>> be a blank unnumbered page on the back of it, you can open the >>>> header/footer of section 2 and replace the {Page} field with {= >>>> {Page} - 1}. The result of this field will be 1 less than the >>>> actual page number. >>>> >>>> Don't try to set this up until the document has been completely >>>> edited and formatted. Otherwise you'll get into a near-endless >>>> round of adjusting the page numbers after every edit. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Jay Freedman >>>> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org >>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the >>>> newsgroup so all may benefit. >>>> >>>> Griff wrote: >>>>> Hi >>>>> I have a document which needs to be printed double sided. New >>>>> sections should start on a new page, but on an odd page. >>>>> However, I want the page numbers to continue. >>>>> >>>>> For example, I put an odd page break after page 9. If printed >>>>> then page 9 will print double sided with a blank page on the back >>>>> (which is correct). I then want to insert a new odd section, but >>>>> I want the page number to start at page 10....(and not 11). >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas. Apologises if this has already been answered, but I >>>>> have spent an hour looking through all the messages.

Re: Odd Section Breaks "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> 08.09.2006 16:03:41 I'm not sure what you mean by this; when I create PDFs, the blank pages are included in the result, and they certainly "show" if I page through the document. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Griff" <Griff[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:647A944C-AB28-4183-B136-D9C67F02F196[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Hi, I agree it is very perverse, but when you are putting a document into PDF > format, then the blank pages do not show....so the page numbers jump, for > example page 1,2,3....5... > > However, is there a way of creating an IF statement in word. For example, > if the previous page is blank then PAGE NUMBER is -1, otherwise PAGE NUMBER > stays the same. > > Sorry to be a pain. > > > "Jay Freedman" wrote: > > > True, but for some people perversity is the spice of life. <g> > > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: > > > Note, however, that this is a very perverse and confusing thing to do. > > > Publishing convention is that odd pages are always verso (right-hand) > > > pages and vice versa. That's what readers expect, and you'll only > > > confuse them if you buck the convention. > > > > > > > > > "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman[ at ]verizon.net> wrote in message > > > news:OEZMH5DzGHA.1936[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > >> There's no way I've ever seen to coerce Word into printing genuinely > > >> even-numbered pages on the "front" side of duplexed sheets. That > > >> means you can't use the "set section starting page" function for > > >> this. However, the "page number" that prints on the paper doesn't > > >> have to be the real page number. :-) > > >> > > >> If you know that section 1 will end on an odd page and there will be > > >> a blank unnumbered page on the back of it, you can open the > > >> header/footer of section 2 and replace the {Page} field with {= > > >> {Page} - 1}. The result of this field will be 1 less than the actual > > >> page number. > > >> > > >> Don't try to set this up until the document has been completely > > >> edited and formatted. Otherwise you'll get into a near-endless round > > >> of adjusting the page numbers after every edit. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Regards, > > >> Jay Freedman > > >> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org > > >> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the > > >> newsgroup so all may benefit. > > >> > > >> Griff wrote: > > >>> Hi > > >>> I have a document which needs to be printed double sided. New > > >>> sections should start on a new page, but on an odd page. However, I > > >>> want the page numbers to continue. > > >>> > > >>> For example, I put an odd page break after page 9. If printed then > > >>> page 9 will print double sided with a blank page on the back (which > > >>> is correct). I then want to insert a new odd section, but I want > > >>> the page number to start at page 10....(and not 11). > > >>> > > >>> Any ideas. Apologises if this has already been answered, but I have > > >>> spent an hour looking through all the messages. > > > > > >