3D Text Box Color and Text Alignment "DG" <beri19[ at ]yahoo.com> 22.07.2006 00:47:28 I am creating a text box with 3D effects. I don't like the color of gray for the face of the box where the text goes and using "lighting" doesn't get it light enough for me. Plus, I'd like to be able to choose a different color on the face of the box. Is this possible? I worked around it slightly by making the text box, right clicking to get the "Borders and Shading" option and getting the color I want, changed the inside margins to "0", then I added the 3D effect. I change the margins to "0" so the colored face area doesn't look like a box within my 3D text box. The problem with this is then text alignment. I'd like the text to be centered both horizontally and vertically in the box and the box is oversized. Is there an easier way for me to do this??? I'm using Word 2002. Thanks in advance for any help provided.

Re: 3D Text Box Color and Text Alignment CyberTaz <onlygeneraltaz1[ at ]com.cast.net> 22.07.2006 14:46:05 No offense, but you are demanding too much from the drawing toys - er, tools - provided in Word. You might have a look at: http://drawingwithword.com/ For some ideas but I don't believe you'll find an effective solution. In order to effectively do something that involved you'll need to use a capable graphics application to create the artwork, then insert the graphic into your doc. Or you may be able to take advantage of the capabilities in PowerPoint, which are a little moe powerful. Then copy & paste into the doc. HTH |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 7/21/06 8:47 PM, in article #MiUshSrGHA.4812[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl, "DG" <beri19[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote: [Quoted Text] > I am creating a text box with 3D effects. I don't like the color of gray > for the face of the box where the text goes and using "lighting" doesn't get > it light enough for me. Plus, I'd like to be able to choose a different > color on the face of the box. Is this possible? I worked around it slightly > by making the text box, right clicking to get the "Borders and Shading" > option and getting the color I want, changed the inside margins to "0", then > I added the 3D effect. I change the margins to "0" so the colored face area > doesn't look like a box within my 3D text box. The problem with this is then > text alignment. I'd like the text to be centered both horizontally and > vertically in the box and the box is oversized. Is there an easier way for > me to do this??? I'm using Word 2002. Thanks in advance for any help > provided. > >

Re: 3D Text Box Color and Text Alignment "DG" <beri19[ at ]yahoo.com> 23.07.2006 21:20:02 No offense taken...and please don't feel I'm not appreciative of your response...but I didn't think it was that demanding a question - I only want to 'easily' change the color of the portion of the 3D text box where you actually type the text (it's hard to believe we're stuck with only gray, dark gray and darker gray which is not good for items that may have to be photocopied). As I mentioned, I worked around it a bit but it's time consuming with all of the steps involved. When I get to work on Monday I am going to take a look at PowerPoint as you suggested. Thanks! "CyberTaz" <onlygeneraltaz1[ at ]com.cast.net> wrote in message news:C0E7B26D.11306%onlygeneraltaz1[ at ]com.cast.net... [Quoted Text] > No offense, but you are demanding too much from the drawing toys - er, > tools > - provided in Word. You might have a look at: > > http://drawingwithword.com/ > > For some ideas but I don't believe you'll find an effective solution. > > In order to effectively do something that involved you'll need to use a > capable graphics application to create the artwork, then insert the > graphic > into your doc. Or you may be able to take advantage of the capabilities in > PowerPoint, which are a little moe powerful. Then copy & paste into the > doc. > > HTH |:>) > Bob Jones > [MVP] Office:Mac > > > > On 7/21/06 8:47 PM, in article #MiUshSrGHA.4812[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl, "DG" > <beri19[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I am creating a text box with 3D effects. I don't like the color of gray >> for the face of the box where the text goes and using "lighting" doesn't >> get >> it light enough for me. Plus, I'd like to be able to choose a different >> color on the face of the box. Is this possible? I worked around it >> slightly >> by making the text box, right clicking to get the "Borders and Shading" >> option and getting the color I want, changed the inside margins to "0", >> then >> I added the 3D effect. I change the margins to "0" so the colored face >> area >> doesn't look like a box within my 3D text box. The problem with this is >> then >> text alignment. I'd like the text to be centered both horizontally and >> vertically in the box and the box is oversized. Is there an easier way >> for >> me to do this??? I'm using Word 2002. Thanks in advance for any help >> provided. >> >> >

Re: 3D Text Box Color and Text Alignment CyberTaz <onlygeneraltaz1[ at ]com.cast.net> 24.07.2006 01:50:07 Sorry - I misinterpreted your main point - don't ever get old - although it beats the only alternative I can think of :) If you just want to change the color of the 'face' of the text box use the regular Fill Color (Paint Can) button or use the Borders & Shading dialog as you are doing, but the only way I know of to get rid of the "box within a box" effect is to set the Lighting (3D Settings Toolbar) to Front by clicking the cube in the middle of the Spotlights. It may also help to set the Line color the same as the Fill. Other than 'forcing' the text vertically by using Format>Paragraph - Space Before: (trial & error) I know of no other way. There is no 'Vertical Centering' option in Word's drawing toys - er, tools. PowerPoint, however, allows this. In the format properties of the shape change the Text Anchor Point to Middle Center & make sure to uncheck the box for Resize to Fit Text. Regards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 7/23/06 5:20 PM, in article e5aZD3prGHA.1796[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl, "DG" <beri19[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote: [Quoted Text] > No offense taken...and please don't feel I'm not appreciative of your > response...but I didn't think it was that demanding a question - I only want > to 'easily' change the color of the portion of the 3D text box where you > actually type the text (it's hard to believe we're stuck with only gray, > dark gray and darker gray which is not good for items that may have to be > photocopied). As I mentioned, I worked around it a bit but it's time > consuming with all of the steps involved. When I get to work on Monday I am > going to take a look at PowerPoint as you suggested. Thanks! > > > "CyberTaz" <onlygeneraltaz1[ at ]com.cast.net> wrote in message > news:C0E7B26D.11306%onlygeneraltaz1[ at ]com.cast.net... >> No offense, but you are demanding too much from the drawing toys - er, >> tools >> - provided in Word. You might have a look at: >> >> http://drawingwithword.com/ >> >> For some ideas but I don't believe you'll find an effective solution. >> >> In order to effectively do something that involved you'll need to use a >> capable graphics application to create the artwork, then insert the >> graphic >> into your doc. Or you may be able to take advantage of the capabilities in >> PowerPoint, which are a little moe powerful. Then copy & paste into the >> doc. >> >> HTH |:>) >> Bob Jones >> [MVP] Office:Mac >> >> >> >> On 7/21/06 8:47 PM, in article #MiUshSrGHA.4812[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl, "DG" >> <beri19[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> I am creating a text box with 3D effects. I don't like the color of gray >>> for the face of the box where the text goes and using "lighting" doesn't >>> get >>> it light enough for me. Plus, I'd like to be able to choose a different >>> color on the face of the box. Is this possible? I worked around it >>> slightly >>> by making the text box, right clicking to get the "Borders and Shading" >>> option and getting the color I want, changed the inside margins to "0", >>> then >>> I added the 3D effect. I change the margins to "0" so the colored face >>> area >>> doesn't look like a box within my 3D text box. The problem with this is >>> then >>> text alignment. I'd like the text to be centered both horizontally and >>> vertically in the box and the box is oversized. Is there an easier way >>> for >>> me to do this??? I'm using Word 2002. Thanks in advance for any help >>> provided. >>> >>> >> > >

Re: 3D Text Box Color and Text Alignment "Bob Buckland ?:-\)" <75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com> 24.07.2006 05:42:17 Hi D.G., Without knowing the steps you're using it's just a guess on what may be happening. These are with using '3D-Style-1' on a text box with text already in it. 1. To change the face color of the textbox, after applying a 3d effect to the text box and with the text box selected choose the 'fill' icon on the Drawing toolbar and set it to 'no fill' (or to the color of choice. 2. To change the edges of the 3d effect use the '3d settings' toolbar from the 3d icon on the drawing toolbar to set a color. Note that if you have the margins of the textbox set to zero then the text may not show when it's over the 3d inside border of the box if you're using 'no fill' or a transparent setting. 3. To vertically center text in a textbox insert a one cell table in the textbox then drag the table cell to the size you want, type your text in the table cell and use the table properties to change the vertical alignment of the table cell to center. You can separately color the 'face' of the table and the table borders using the Borders and Shadings tool. ======= <<"DG" <beri19[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%23MiUshSrGHA.4812[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... I am creating a text box with 3D effects. I don't like the color of gray for the face of the box where the text goes and using "lighting" doesn't get it light enough for me. Plus, I'd like to be able to choose a different color on the face of the box. Is this possible? I worked around it slightly by making the text box, right clicking to get the "Borders and Shading" option and getting the color I want, changed the inside margins to "0", then I added the 3D effect. I change the margins to "0" so the colored face area doesn't look like a box within my 3D text box. The problem with this is then text alignment. I'd like the text to be centered both horizontally and vertically in the box and the box is oversized. Is there an easier way for me to do this??? I'm using Word 2002. Thanks in advance for any help provided. >> -- I hope this helped you, Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office system products MVP >>*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<< LINKS to the 2007 Office System 1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie :) the 2007 Microsoft Office system info, online Test Drive, or downloadable beta is at http://microsoft.com/office/preview 2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2? Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures) http://sas.office.microsoft.com/ 3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007 a. Install the ActiveX access control http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033 b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net

Re: 3D Text Box Color and Text Alignment "Bob Buckland ?:-\)" <75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com> 24.07.2006 06:04:50 Hi D.G., I forgot to mention that even without a table inserted in a text box you can use the fill can on the Drawing toolbar in combination with the Fill can on the Tables Toolbar (or from Format=>Borders and Shading) and adjust the margins of the text box to get some interesting effects with 3 color settings, or a background picture, or gradient border or background and then if you add a table you can use some of the autoformat settings for the table to get other combinations within combinations. If you fill with a picture, for example and then use the rotation tools on the 3d shape the text box shaded area and/or the table in the text box will be forward faced but you can create some nice 'advertising' effects. ========= <<"Bob Buckland ?:-)" <75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com> wrote in message news:%23BTpUMurGHA.2256[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Hi D.G., Without knowing the steps you're using it's just a guess on what may be happening. These are with using '3D-Style-1' on a text box with text already in it. 1. To change the face color of the textbox, after applying a 3d effect to the text box and with the text box selected choose the 'fill' icon on the Drawing toolbar and set it to 'no fill' (or to the color of choice. 2. To change the edges of the 3d effect use the '3d settings' toolbar from the 3d icon on the drawing toolbar to set a color. Note that if you have the margins of the textbox set to zero then the text may not show when it's over the 3d inside border of the box if you're using 'no fill' or a transparent setting. 3. To vertically center text in a textbox insert a one cell table in the textbox then drag the table cell to the size you want, type your text in the table cell and use the table properties to change the vertical alignment of the table cell to center. You can separately color the 'face' of the table and the table borders using the Borders and Shadings tool.>>

RE: 3D Text Box Color and Text Alignment Keith Howell 24.07.2006 21:16:02 I don't know whether it is too late but I would forget the text to start with and create and play around with coloring a rectangle to get what you want. eg Fill Color/Fill Effects/Gradient/2 color ; Colour one white, colour 2 black. Once you have the shape and coloring (it doesn't have to be a rectangle) then create a text box with No Fill and No line. Manipulate its size to constrain the text to the shape you want and simply position it over the colored 3D shape and group the 2 together www.drawingwithword.com