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Greetings, I'm new to Word 2003 and am seeing something a bit different than it was in Word 2000. When I bring up the Page Setup box and select the Margins tab, I get margins for top, bottom, left, right, and even Gutter size and location. If I remember Word2000 correctly, it gave me the ability to set the Header and Footer positions (I think they were for 'how large is the area", but they might have been "how far from the edge does it start').
I'm finding in Word 2003 I actually have to use the mouse and play click/drag for my header/footer sizes, and when I highlight them, the boundary lines (dashed) show the footer starting at the edge of the paper and I can't click/drag it to move it up.
Sooo... is there a way for me to numerically set Header/Footer height and location with respect to the top/bottom of the page???
Thanks, Shane
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Go back into Page Setup & take a look at the 'Layout' page, but the boxes cannot be maually resized or repositioned. They simply regulate the positioning of standard H/F content, but you can also add just about anything anywhere else as you wish - including drawing objects, pictures, text boxes, etc.
-- HTH |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac
"SV" <Espy.Vee[ at ]DoYouLikeGreenEggsAnd.Spam> wrote in message news:eTnwer9tGHA.4612[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Greetings, > I'm new to Word 2003 and am seeing something a bit different than it was > in Word 2000. When I bring up the Page Setup box and select the Margins > tab, I get margins for top, bottom, left, right, and even Gutter size and > location. If I remember Word2000 correctly, it gave me the ability to set > the Header and Footer positions (I think they were for 'how large is the > area", but they might have been "how far from the edge does it start'). > > I'm finding in Word 2003 I actually have to use the mouse and play > click/drag for my header/footer sizes, and when I highlight them, the > boundary lines (dashed) show the footer starting at the edge of the paper > and I can't click/drag it to move it up. > > Sooo... is there a way for me to numerically set Header/Footer height > and location with respect to the top/bottom of the page??? > > Thanks, > Shane >
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Bob, Thanks, that splains why I look but don't find. It's a functionality I'll miss a bit, but not lose sleep over!
Shane
"CyberTaz" <typegeneraltaz1ATcomcastdotnet> wrote in message news:Oz016C%23tGHA.1296[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Go back into Page Setup & take a look at the 'Layout' page, but the boxes > cannot be maually resized or repositioned. They simply regulate the > positioning of standard H/F content, but you can also add just about > anything anywhere else as you wish - including drawing objects, pictures, > text boxes, etc. > > -- > HTH |:>) > Bob Jones > [MVP] Office:Mac
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As Bob says, those settings are now on the Layout tab. At first glance, it might be hard to imagine why MS would have moved a margin setting away from the Margins tab, but perhaps it seemed reasonable in that the "Different first page" and "Different odd and even" settings are on that tab as well.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
"SV" <Espy.Vee[ at ]DoYouLikeGreenEggsAnd.Spam> wrote in message news:eTnwer9tGHA.4612[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Greetings, > I'm new to Word 2003 and am seeing something a bit different than it was
in > Word 2000. When I bring up the Page Setup box and select the Margins tab, I > get margins for top, bottom, left, right, and even Gutter size and location. > If I remember Word2000 correctly, it gave me the ability to set the Header > and Footer positions (I think they were for 'how large is the area", but > they might have been "how far from the edge does it start'). > > I'm finding in Word 2003 I actually have to use the mouse and play > click/drag for my header/footer sizes, and when I highlight them, the > boundary lines (dashed) show the footer starting at the edge of the paper > and I can't click/drag it to move it up. > > Sooo... is there a way for me to numerically set Header/Footer height and > location with respect to the top/bottom of the page??? > > Thanks, > Shane > >
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Sue, Yeah, that does make some sense. Fortunately I'm generally able to see the logic behind a huge chunk of Bill's rationale, and so this is just a 'takes some getting used to' thing. Right now I'm playing around to find out if the header-size is created by the program comparing the "Where the header starts" and "Upper Margin" values and figuring everything in between MUST be header. :-)
Shane
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message news:u%23bXFt%23tGHA.4336[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > As Bob says, those settings are now on the Layout tab. At first glance, it > might be hard to imagine why MS would have moved a margin setting away > from > the Margins tab, but perhaps it seemed reasonable in that the "Different > first page" and "Different odd and even" settings are on that tab as well. > > -- > Suzanne S. Barnhill > Microsoft MVP (Word) > Words into Type > Fairhope, Alabama USA > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup > so > all may benefit.
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This behavior of the header is described at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm. To summarize, the header margin determines how far from the edge of the page the header starts; the same for the footer margin, though it is less obvious from the way the footer pane is displayed. As the header/footer increases in depth, the header pushes down and the footer pushes up. It does not stop when it reaches the top/bottom margin but instead pushes the document content down or up (unless you have set an absolute top/bottom margin by--extremely unintuitively--using a negative number). This is what allows you to have a different effective margin on some pages than others (see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm). If you have a header/footer whose depth will exceed the space allowed for it (distance between header/footer and top/bottom margin), you will need to add Space After to the header or Space Before to the footer to create "breathing room."
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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[Quoted Text] > Sue, > Yeah, that does make some sense. Fortunately I'm generally able to see
the > logic behind a huge chunk of Bill's rationale, and so this is just a 'takes > some getting used to' thing. Right now I'm playing around to find out if > the header-size is created by the program comparing the "Where the header > starts" and "Upper Margin" values and figuring everything in between MUST be > header. :-) > > Shane > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message > news:u%23bXFt%23tGHA.4336[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > As Bob says, those settings are now on the Layout tab. At first glance, it > > might be hard to imagine why MS would have moved a margin setting away > > from > > the Margins tab, but perhaps it seemed reasonable in that the "Different > > first page" and "Different odd and even" settings are on that tab as well. > > > > -- > > Suzanne S. Barnhill > > Microsoft MVP (Word) > > Words into Type > > Fairhope, Alabama USA > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup > > so > > all may benefit. > >
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Suzanne, AHHHHH.. thanks, that makes much sense... thanks!
Shane
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message news:uCvLkaauGHA.5032[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > This behavior of the header is described at > http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm. To summarize, the > header margin determines how far from the edge of the page the header > starts; the same for the footer margin, though it is less obvious from the > way the footer pane is displayed. As the header/footer increases in depth, > the header pushes down and the footer pushes up. It does not stop when it > reaches the top/bottom margin but instead pushes the document content down > or up (unless you have set an absolute top/bottom margin by--extremely > unintuitively--using a negative number). This is what allows you to have a > different effective margin on some pages than others (see > http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm). If you have a > header/footer whose depth will exceed the space allowed for it (distance > between header/footer and top/bottom margin), you will need to add Space > After to the header or Space Before to the footer to create "breathing > room." > > -- > Suzanne S. Barnhill > Microsoft MVP (Word) > Words into Type > Fairhope, Alabama USA > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup > so > all may benefit. > > "SV" <Espy.Vee[ at ]DoYouLikeGreenEggsAnd.Spam> wrote in message > news:uB0FNmYuGHA.2392[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Sue, >> Yeah, that does make some sense. Fortunately I'm generally able to see > the >> logic behind a huge chunk of Bill's rationale, and so this is just a > 'takes >> some getting used to' thing. Right now I'm playing around to find out if >> the header-size is created by the program comparing the "Where the header >> starts" and "Upper Margin" values and figuring everything in between MUST > be >> header. :-) >> >> Shane >> >> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message >> news:u%23bXFt%23tGHA.4336[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> > As Bob says, those settings are now on the Layout tab. At first glance, > it >> > might be hard to imagine why MS would have moved a margin setting away >> > from >> > the Margins tab, but perhaps it seemed reasonable in that the >> > "Different >> > first page" and "Different odd and even" settings are on that tab as > well. >> > >> > -- >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill >> > Microsoft MVP (Word) >> > Words into Type >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the > newsgroup >> > so >> > all may benefit. >> >> >
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