Search and replace my custom tags in WordML?? M O J O <na[ at ]na.na> 27.07.2006 12:01:02 Hi, I need to open a wordml document and search/replace some custom tags. The problem is, that when I open a wordml doc, the tags are messed up. My text look likes this "Dear [ at ]customername[ at ], ....", but when I open the wordml doc, it can look like this.... <w:rPr>Dear <w:b/>[ at ]</w:rPr><w:t>customername</w:t>[ at ]</w:r> or <w:rPr>Dear <w:b/></w:rPr>[ at ]<w:t>customername[ at ]</w:t></w:r> etc. I want to keep the [ at ] and unsername together like this... <w:rPr>Dear <w:b/></w:rPr><w:t>[ at ]customername[ at ]</w:t></w:r> Is that possible??? Thanks! Mojo

Re: Search and replace my custom tags in WordML?? Cindy M -WordMVP- <C.Meister-C[ at ]hispeed.ch> 27.07.2006 15:10:12 Hi M, [Quoted Text] > I need to open a wordml document and search/replace some custom tags. > > The problem is, that when I open a wordml doc, the tags are messed up. > > My text look likes this "Dear [ at ]customername[ at ], ....", but when I open the > wordml doc, it can look like this.... > > <w:rPr>Dear <w:b/>[ at ]</w:rPr><w:t>customername</w:t>[ at ]</w:r> > or > <w:rPr>Dear <w:b/></w:rPr>[ at ]<w:t>customername[ at ]</w:t></w:r> > etc. > > I want to keep the [ at ] and unsername together like this... > > <w:rPr>Dear <w:b/></w:rPr><w:t>[ at ]customername[ at ]</w:t></w:r> > > Is that possible??? > I very much doubt that the WordML you're getting when you save a Word 2003 document looks like the samples you're showing us above. "Dear " would certainly have to be within <w:t> tags; the [ at ] as well. I'm guessing that you may be formatting the customername characters differently than the surrounding [ at ]? That would break up the text run... Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-)

Re: Search and replace my custom tags in WordML?? M O J O <na[ at ]na.na> 27.07.2006 20:02:11 Hi Cindy, My point was just to show that the '[ at ]' signs wasn't always together with the customername. :o) Let's say I want to load the xml file into Notepad and do a search and replace (I don't want to use word to do the search and replace ... it will be done on a computer that does not have word installed). How can I make my own "tags" that will not be messed up by wordml-tags? I want my user to create a word doc, type in text and add variables like [ at ]customername[ at ]. Then my own .net application must open the xml file and do a search and replace. Therefore the [ at ]customername[ at ] must stick together. Hope you understand what I mean. This is a BIG problem for me. :o( Thanks! Mojo Cindy M -WordMVP- skrev: [Quoted Text] > Hi M, > >> I need to open a wordml document and search/replace some custom tags. >> >> The problem is, that when I open a wordml doc, the tags are messed up. >> >> My text look likes this "Dear [ at ]customername[ at ], ....", but when I open the >> wordml doc, it can look like this.... >> >> <w:rPr>Dear <w:b/>[ at ]</w:rPr><w:t>customername</w:t>[ at ]</w:r> >> or >> <w:rPr>Dear <w:b/></w:rPr>[ at ]<w:t>customername[ at ]</w:t></w:r> >> etc. >> >> I want to keep the [ at ] and unsername together like this... >> >> <w:rPr>Dear <w:b/></w:rPr><w:t>[ at ]customername[ at ]</w:t></w:r> >> >> Is that possible??? >> > I very much doubt that the WordML you're getting when you save a Word 2003 > document looks like the samples you're showing us above. "Dear " would > certainly have to be within <w:t> tags; the [ at ] as well. I'm guessing that > you may be formatting the customername characters differently than the > surrounding [ at ]? That would break up the text run... > > Cindy Meister > INTER-Solutions, Switzerland > http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) > http://www.word.mvps.org > > This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or > reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) >

Re: Search and replace my custom tags in WordML?? "Dr. Eckehard Pfeifer" <privat[ at ]dr-e-pfeifer.newsgroup.de> 28.07.2006 12:37:22 Hi, I dont know, If I understand you correctly. Whats about your own namespace concerning the parameters you signed as [ at ]parameter[ at ]? Like <param xmlns="myNamespace">value</param>. -- MfG EP Entwicklung - Beratung - Training (www.dr-e-pfeifer.net) (Microsoft Certified Application Developer) neu: MS Office 2003 - Das Entwicklerbuch (ISBN 3-86063-688-X)

Re: Search and replace my custom tags in WordML?? Cindy M -WordMVP- <C.Meister-C[ at ]hispeed.ch> 28.07.2006 14:26:41 Hi Mojo, But you see, on my machine the [ at ] signs aren't separated from the rest of the text. Unless I format them differently or use Insert/Symbol. So it would be important for you to show us EXACTLY what the problem is that you're encountering - the WordML you're struggling with. [Quoted Text] > My point was just to show that the '[ at ]' signs wasn't always together with > the customername. :o) > > Let's say I want to load the xml file into Notepad and do a search and > replace (I don't want to use word to do the search and replace ... it > will be done on a computer that does not have word installed). > > How can I make my own "tags" that will not be messed up by wordml-tags? > > I want my user to create a word doc, type in text and add variables like > [ at ]customername[ at ]. Then my own .net application must open the xml file and > do a search and replace. Therefore the [ at ]customername[ at ] must stick together. > > Hope you understand what I mean. > > This is a BIG problem for me. :o( > Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-)

Re: Search and replace my custom tags in WordML?? M O J O <na[ at ]na.na> 31.07.2006 05:23:57 Hi Cindy, I want my user to write a "template" in word and save it as xml. This template will later be used for our own mailmerge system. Therefore if my users open a new document and enters the field [ at ]customoername[ at ], the wordml will look like this... ....<w:p><w:r><w:t>[ at ]customername[ at ]</w:t></w:r>.... This is very easy to open the xml file in our .net-crm application and do a search/replace on the variable [ at ]customername[ at ]. But if the user wants to make it bold and by mistake forgets to highlight the last [ at ], the wordml will look like this... <w:rPr><w:b/></w:rPr><w:t>[ at ]customername</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:t>[ at ]</w:t> Then I will not be able to from my .net-crm application to open the word as a tectfile and do a search/replace on the [ at ]customername[ at ], because it's now called... [ at ]customername</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:t>[ at ] I would like my users to be able to enter a fieldname like [ at ]customernam[ at ] in word and no matter what formatting they do on the field, the [ at ]customername[ at ] must be intact. Hope you get what I mean. :o) Thanks for still trying to help me out here!! Mojo Cindy M -WordMVP- skrev: [Quoted Text] > Hi Mojo, > > But you see, on my machine the [ at ] signs aren't separated from the rest of the > text. Unless I format them differently or use Insert/Symbol. So it would be > important for you to show us EXACTLY what the problem is that you're > encountering - the WordML you're struggling with. > >> My point was just to show that the '[ at ]' signs wasn't always together with >> the customername. :o) >> >> Let's say I want to load the xml file into Notepad and do a search and >> replace (I don't want to use word to do the search and replace ... it >> will be done on a computer that does not have word installed). >> >> How can I make my own "tags" that will not be messed up by wordml-tags? >> >> I want my user to create a word doc, type in text and add variables like >> [ at ]customername[ at ]. Then my own .net application must open the xml file and >> do a search and replace. Therefore the [ at ]customername[ at ] must stick together. >> >> Hope you understand what I mean. >> >> This is a BIG problem for me. :o( >> > > Cindy Meister > INTER-Solutions, Switzerland > http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) > http://www.word.mvps.org > > This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or > reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) >

Re: Search and replace my custom tags in WordML?? "Peter Jamieson" <pjj[ at ]KillmapSpjjnet.demon.co.uk> 31.07.2006 08:15:40 I don't believe there is any way you can force Word to fix this at the point when you save the document, unless you know how to write a transform that could do it (I don't), particularly... [Quoted Text] > I would like my users to be able to enter a fieldname like [ at ]customernam[ at ] > in word and no matter what formatting they do on the field, the > [ at ]customername[ at ] must be intact. ....when you want that much flexibility. What you're implying is that there could be any number of formatting tags within the [ at ]customername[ at ] "tag". Nor is it going to be simple even to identify what is and what is not a tag, partly because a character such as "[ at ]" is quite likely to be used in other ways in a document (especially in e-mail addresses), and partly because the user may accidentally omit an "[ at ]". Personally I would consider two approaches to solving this: a. either provide a macro that the user either invokes or is invoked automatically when the document is closed, or can be run as a check after closing, to go through the document looking for [ at ]tag[ at ] tags, reporting on any "solitary" "[ at ]" characters it can find, then applying (or more likely, removing) consistent formatting, in a way that you have determined by experiment leaves you with <w:t>[ at ]tag[ at ]</w:t> b. or postprocess the resulting XML, using any appropriate language, in a three-stage process: - make a copy of the XML and strip all XML tags so that the user-defined [ at ]tag[ at ] tags are reconstituted - perform much the same checking for "solitary" "[ at ]" chaaracters as in (a) and flag any stuff you cannot recognise - if all is OK, reprocess the original XML by identifying the start and end of [ at ]tag[ at ] tags and successively swapping the positions of XML tags and plain text until the [ at ]tag[ at ] is reconsituted. If (a) is feasible, it looks an awful lot simpler to me than (b). I also suspect it might be a whole lot more reliable if you didn't use a common character such as "[ at ]" as your tag marker, or doubled it up to [ at ][ at ]. Personally I like "¬" (who on earth uses that?), but that's primarily because it's available on a UK keyboard. Of course th logical problem remains whatever you use. Peter Jamieson "M O J O" <na[ at ]na.na> wrote in message news:OS7HHGGtGHA.4324[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Hi Cindy, > > I want my user to write a "template" in word and save it as xml. This > template will later be used for our own mailmerge system. > > Therefore if my users open a new document and enters the field > [ at ]customoername[ at ], the wordml will look like this... > > ...<w:p><w:r><w:t>[ at ]customername[ at ]</w:t></w:r>.... > > This is very easy to open the xml file in our .net-crm application and do > a search/replace on the variable [ at ]customername[ at ]. > > But if the user wants to make it bold and by mistake forgets to highlight > the last [ at ], the wordml will look like this... > > <w:rPr><w:b/></w:rPr><w:t>[ at ]customername</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:t>[ at ]</w:t> > > Then I will not be able to from my .net-crm application to open the word > as a tectfile and do a search/replace on the [ at ]customername[ at ], because it's > now called... > > [ at ]customername</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:t>[ at ] > > I would like my users to be able to enter a fieldname like [ at ]customernam[ at ] > in word and no matter what formatting they do on the field, the > [ at ]customername[ at ] must be intact. > > Hope you get what I mean. > > :o) > > Thanks for still trying to help me out here!! > > Mojo > > Cindy M -WordMVP- skrev: >> Hi Mojo, But you see, on my machine the [ at ] signs aren't separated from the >> rest of the text. Unless I format them differently or use Insert/Symbol. >> So it would be important for you to show us EXACTLY what the problem is >> that you're encountering - the WordML you're struggling with. >>> My point was just to show that the '[ at ]' signs wasn't always together with >>> the customername. :o) >>> Let's say I want to load the xml file into Notepad and do a search and >>> replace (I don't want to use word to do the search and replace ... it >>> will be done on a computer that does not have word installed). >>> How can I make my own "tags" that will not be messed up by wordml-tags? >>> I want my user to create a word doc, type in text and add variables >>> like [ at ]customername[ at ]. Then my own .net application must open the xml file >>> and do a search and replace. Therefore the [ at ]customername[ at ] must stick >>> together. >>> Hope you understand what I mean. >>> This is a BIG problem for me. :o( >>> >> >> Cindy Meister >> INTER-Solutions, Switzerland >> http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) >> http://www.word.mvps.org >> >> This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or >> reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) >>

Re: Search and replace my custom tags in WordML?? Cindy M -WordMVP- <C.Meister-C[ at ]hispeed.ch> 31.07.2006 10:12:53 Hi Mojo, I get what you mean. And I agree with Peter's analysis. The only additional thought I have is that it should be possible to use XPath rather than a text search. XPath should let you extend what's picked up until you hit the "end symbol", and to pick up only the <t> tag's contents. As long as you're using XML, make the most of it and use the tools that are available for working with it :-) XML wasn't designed to be worked with in "text editor"... [Quoted Text] > I want my user to write a "template" in word and save it as xml. This > template will later be used for our own mailmerge system. > > Therefore if my users open a new document and enters the field > [ at ]customoername[ at ], the wordml will look like this... > > ....<w:p><w:r><w:t>[ at ]customername[ at ]</w:t></w:r>.... > > This is very easy to open the xml file in our .net-crm application and > do a search/replace on the variable [ at ]customername[ at ]. > > But if the user wants to make it bold and by mistake forgets to > highlight the last [ at ], the wordml will look like this... > > <w:rPr><w:b/></w:rPr><w:t>[ at ]customername</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:t>[ at ]</w:t> > > Then I will not be able to from my .net-crm application to open the word > as a tectfile and do a search/replace on the [ at ]customername[ at ], because > it's now called... > > [ at ]customername</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:t>[ at ] > > I would like my users to be able to enter a fieldname like [ at ]customernam[ at ] > in word and no matter what formatting they do on the field, the > [ at ]customername[ at ] must be intact. > > Hope you get what I mean. > Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-)

Re: Search and replace my custom tags in WordML?? M O J O <na[ at ]na.na> 31.07.2006 19:45:20 Hi Peter and Cindy, Thank you both for the elaborating answers. I will try to parse the file as an xml file. Thanks again!! Mojo M O J O skrev: [Quoted Text] > Hi Cindy, > > I want my user to write a "template" in word and save it as xml. This > template will later be used for our own mailmerge system. > > Therefore if my users open a new document and enters the field > [ at ]customoername[ at ], the wordml will look like this... > > ...<w:p><w:r><w:t>[ at ]customername[ at ]</w:t></w:r>.... > > This is very easy to open the xml file in our .net-crm application and > do a search/replace on the variable [ at ]customername[ at ]. > > But if the user wants to make it bold and by mistake forgets to > highlight the last [ at ], the wordml will look like this... > > <w:rPr><w:b/></w:rPr><w:t>[ at ]customername</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:t>[ at ]</w:t> > > Then I will not be able to from my .net-crm application to open the word > as a tectfile and do a search/replace on the [ at ]customername[ at ], because > it's now called... > > [ at ]customername</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:t>[ at ] > > I would like my users to be able to enter a fieldname like [ at ]customernam[ at ] > in word and no matter what formatting they do on the field, the > [ at ]customername[ at ] must be intact. > > Hope you get what I mean. > > :o) > > Thanks for still trying to help me out here!! > > Mojo > > Cindy M -WordMVP- skrev: >> Hi Mojo, >> But you see, on my machine the [ at ] signs aren't separated from the rest >> of the text. Unless I format them differently or use Insert/Symbol. So >> it would be important for you to show us EXACTLY what the problem is >> that you're encountering - the WordML you're struggling with. >>> My point was just to show that the '[ at ]' signs wasn't always together >>> with the customername. :o) >>> >>> Let's say I want to load the xml file into Notepad and do a search >>> and replace (I don't want to use word to do the search and replace >>> ... it will be done on a computer that does not have word installed). >>> >>> How can I make my own "tags" that will not be messed up by wordml-tags? >>> >>> I want my user to create a word doc, type in text and add variables >>> like [ at ]customername[ at ]. Then my own .net application must open the xml >>> file and do a search and replace. Therefore the [ at ]customername[ at ] must >>> stick together. >>> >>> Hope you understand what I mean. >>> >>> This is a BIG problem for me. :o( >>> >> >> Cindy Meister >> INTER-Solutions, Switzerland >> http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) >> http://www.word.mvps.org >> >> This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question >> or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) >>