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OneNote with AutoCAD
"Keith Wheeler" <kwheeler[ at ]triunetechaz.com> 29.07.2006 22:58:03
I have a client using AutoCAD who wants to annotate his drawings in the
field while on site using a Tablet PC. Is this possible? Are there white
papers or other documentation explaining how?

Thanks.


Re: OneNote with AutoCAD
"Patrick Schmid" <pds-ms[ at ]nospam.pschmid.net> 30.07.2006 05:26:25
I don't know if AutoCAD supports ink or not. That would be the best
option for your client.
Alternatively, your client and print the drawings to OneNote (2003 or
2007) and annotate them in there. However, the problem with that is that
he'll see big drawings scaled down to a normal Letter-size page and
details get lost when zooming.
You can give OneNote a shot, but I am really not sure how well it will
work for CAD drawings.
If you go with ON 2003, you'll need to get the MS Education Pack for
Tablet PC. It includes the "Send to OneNote 2003" printer which lets you
print to ON on a tabletPC.
If you go with ON 2007, a similar printer comes in the package.
If I were you, I'd test this with ON 2007 on a test machine first to see
how the quality and size works for your client. With 2007, you can test
this on a desktop or virtual machine. It'll show you sufficiently enough
whether size & quality are appropriate for annotating.

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"Keith Wheeler" <kwheeler[ at ]triunetechaz.com> wrote in message
news:#6ht0J2sGHA.452[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

[Quoted Text]
> I have a client using AutoCAD who wants to annotate his drawings in the
> field while on site using a Tablet PC. Is this possible? Are there white
> papers or other documentation explaining how?
>
> Thanks.

Re: OneNote with AutoCAD
"Daniel Escapa [MS]" <_null_NOTREAL[ at ]microsoft.com> 31.07.2006 20:33:43
You can still print the stuff into OneNote [ at ] a high resolution and then use
the zoom feature in ON to zoom in and out. Not the best but it can give you
the detail that you want.


"Patrick Schmid" <pds-ms[ at ]nospam.pschmid.net> wrote in message
news:evTe2i5sGHA.452[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
>I don't know if AutoCAD supports ink or not. That would be the best option
>for your client.
> Alternatively, your client and print the drawings to OneNote (2003 or
> 2007) and annotate them in there. However, the problem with that is that
> he'll see big drawings scaled down to a normal Letter-size page and
> details get lost when zooming.
> You can give OneNote a shot, but I am really not sure how well it will
> work for CAD drawings.
> If you go with ON 2003, you'll need to get the MS Education Pack for
> Tablet PC. It includes the "Send to OneNote 2003" printer which lets you
> print to ON on a tabletPC.
> If you go with ON 2007, a similar printer comes in the package.
> If I were you, I'd test this with ON 2007 on a test machine first to see
> how the quality and size works for your client. With 2007, you can test
> this on a desktop or virtual machine. It'll show you sufficiently enough
> whether size & quality are appropriate for annotating.
>
> Patrick Schmid
> --------------
> http://pschmid.net
>
> "Keith Wheeler" <kwheeler[ at ]triunetechaz.com> wrote in message
> news:#6ht0J2sGHA.452[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>> I have a client using AutoCAD who wants to annotate his drawings in the
>> field while on site using a Tablet PC. Is this possible? Are there white
>> papers or other documentation explaining how?
>>
>> Thanks.
>


Re: OneNote with AutoCAD
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 01.08.2006 18:43:50
Daniel Escapa [MS] shared these words of wisdom:

[Quoted Text]
> You can still print the stuff into OneNote [ at ] a high resolution
> and then use the zoom feature in ON to zoom in and out. Not the
> best but it can give you the detail that you want.

Whre is this "Zoom" feature hidden?
I could not yet detect it and am seriously missing the possibility of
zooming in ON.

What am I overlooking?

Rainald
P.S. You are not having the so-called "Full Page View" (F11) in mind?

Re: OneNote with AutoCAD
"Keith Wheeler" <kwheeler[ at ]triunetechaz.com> 01.08.2006 19:13:43
Thanks, following this logic:
[Quoted Text]
> "If you go with ON 2003, you'll need to get the MS Education Pack for
> Tablet PC. It includes the "Send to OneNote 2003" printer which lets you
> print to ON on a tabletPC."
for a moment, where would one obtain said "MS Education Pack for Tablet PC"?

Thanks y'all.


"Patrick Schmid" <pds-ms[ at ]nospam.pschmid.net> wrote in message
news:evTe2i5sGHA.452[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I don't know if AutoCAD supports ink or not. That would be the best option
>for your client.
> Alternatively, your client and print the drawings to OneNote (2003 or
> 2007) and annotate them in there. However, the problem with that is that
> he'll see big drawings scaled down to a normal Letter-size page and
> details get lost when zooming.
> You can give OneNote a shot, but I am really not sure how well it will
> work for CAD drawings.
> If you go with ON 2003, you'll need to get the MS Education Pack for
> Tablet PC. It includes the "Send to OneNote 2003" printer which lets you
> print to ON on a tabletPC.
> If you go with ON 2007, a similar printer comes in the package.
> If I were you, I'd test this with ON 2007 on a test machine first to see
> how the quality and size works for your client. With 2007, you can test
> this on a desktop or virtual machine. It'll show you sufficiently enough
> whether size & quality are appropriate for annotating.
>
> Patrick Schmid
> --------------
> http://pschmid.net
>
> "Keith Wheeler" <kwheeler[ at ]triunetechaz.com> wrote in message
> news:#6ht0J2sGHA.452[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>> I have a client using AutoCAD who wants to annotate his drawings in the
>> field while on site using a Tablet PC. Is this possible? Are there white
>> papers or other documentation explaining how?
>>
>> Thanks.
>


Re: OneNote with AutoCAD
"Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> 01.08.2006 21:39:19
It's on the Standard Toolbar, and Ctrl-Zoom also works if your mouse has a
scroll button.

"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> wrote in news:eaOTKxZtGHA.1888
[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

[Quoted Text]
> Daniel Escapa [MS] shared these words of wisdom:
>
>> You can still print the stuff into OneNote [ at ] a high resolution
>> and then use the zoom feature in ON to zoom in and out. Not the
>> best but it can give you the detail that you want.
>
> Whre is this "Zoom" feature hidden?
> I could not yet detect it and am seriously missing the possibility of
> zooming in ON.
>
> What am I overlooking?
>
> Rainald
> P.S. You are not having the so-called "Full Page View" (F11) in mind?
>
>

Re: OneNote with AutoCAD
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 01.08.2006 22:37:35
Erik Sojka (MVP) shared these words of wisdom:

[Quoted Text]
>> Where is this "Zoom" feature hidden?
>> I could not yet detect it and am seriously missing the
>> possibility of zooming in ON.
>>
>> What am I overlooking?

> It's on the Standard Toolbar, and Ctrl-Zoom also works if your
> mouse has a scroll button.

Thanks a lot, Erik.
Really interesting (esp. the Ctrl+Scroll way).

IMO there's a design bug (pls see my reply to Patrick).

Rainald
Re: OneNote with AutoCAD
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 01.08.2006 22:54:48
Keith Wheeler shared these words of wisdom:

[Quoted Text]
>> "If you go with ON 2003, you'll need to get the MS Education
>> Pack for Tablet PC. It includes the "Send to OneNote 2003"
>> printer which lets you print to ON on a tabletPC."
>
> for a moment, where would one obtain said "MS Education Pack for
> Tablet PC"?


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/tabletpc/educationpack/default.mspx

It's in the "Ehancement Pack" - which includes some most valuable
tools - too:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/tabletpc/enhancementpack/default.mspx

Once there you may also download the "Experience Pack" too.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/tabletpc/experiencepack/overview.mspx

HTH
Rainald

Re: OneNote with AutoCAD
"Daniel Escapa [MS]" <_null_NOTREAL[ at ]microsoft.com> 02.08.2006 05:39:39
Threadjacking...that being said if you think it is a bug please submit it.

Otherwise it will probably stay as it is & as it was in OneNote 2003. Most
people tend to find it and the ctrl-mouse wheel is standard across _many_
apps.

"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> wrote in message
news:%23em1RubtGHA.3912[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Erik Sojka (MVP) shared these words of wisdom:
>
>>> Where is this "Zoom" feature hidden?
>>> I could not yet detect it and am seriously missing the
>>> possibility of zooming in ON.
>>>
>>> What am I overlooking?
>
>> It's on the Standard Toolbar, and Ctrl-Zoom also works if your
>> mouse has a scroll button.
>
> Thanks a lot, Erik.
> Really interesting (esp. the Ctrl+Scroll way).
>
> IMO there's a design bug (pls see my reply to Patrick).
>
> Rainald


Re: OneNote with AutoCAD
"Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> 02.08.2006 23:06:52
I agree, but since the zoom functionality already exists and there's no
additional coding involved, adding &Zoom to the View menu seems from my
non-programmer POV to be a simple addition...


"Daniel Escapa [MS]" <_null_NOTREAL[ at ]microsoft.com> wrote in
news:OqIxMYftGHA.452[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

[Quoted Text]
> Threadjacking...that being said if you think it is a bug please submit
> it.
>
> Otherwise it will probably stay as it is & as it was in OneNote 2003.
> Most people tend to find it and the ctrl-mouse wheel is standard
> across _many_ apps.
>
Re: OneNote with AutoCAD
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 03.08.2006 13:11:46
Erik Sojka (MVP) shared these words of wisdom:

[Quoted Text]
>> Threadjacking...that being said if you think it is a bug please
>> submit it.
>>
>> Otherwise it will probably stay as it is & as it was in OneNote
>> 2003. Most people tend to find it and the ctrl-mouse wheel is
>> standard across _many_ apps.
>
> I agree, but since the zoom functionality already exists and
> there's no additional coding involved, adding &Zoom to the View
> menu seems from my non-programmer POV to be a simple addition...

Thanks Erik!
To me it seems that it really coud not be a big deal.

Rainald


Re: OneNote with AutoCAD
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 03.08.2006 13:18:40
Daniel Escapa [MS] shared these words of wisdom:

[Quoted Text]
>> IMO there's a design bug (pls see my reply to Patrick).
>>
> Threadjacking...that being said if you think it is a bug please
> submit it.

Will do so.

> Otherwise it will probably stay as it is & as it was in OneNote
> 2003. Most people tend to find it

Some dumb ones like not ;-)
IMO "Zoom" would be a compulsary item in the View menu.

> and the ctrl-mouse wheel is standard across _many_ apps.

Yes. But it's not obvious.

Apart: Another Ctrl-key-combination.
What would be the equivalent for pen usage?

Rainald

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