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Strange spelling message
<aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> 06.07.2006 06:57:25
Hi all

I've been advised by a very respected member of the word.newusers ng to post
this question here. Apologies to anyone who may have read it already.

I'm using Word 2000 on XP (though this also happened on 98SE). On *some*
documents only, when I spell check (F7) I'm getting the message 'Word cannot
find the spelling file MSSSpell32.dll. I also get a similar message about a
grammar file. The original documents have been sent to me by someone who
uses Word 2003. I though all documents were compatible. Has anyone else
experienced this message and what is it all about?


Re: Strange spelling message
Cindy M -WordMVP- <C.Meister-C[ at ]hispeed.ch> 06.07.2006 14:52:43
[Quoted Text]
> I've been advised by a very respected member of the word.newusers ng to post
> this question here. Apologies to anyone who may have read it already.
>
> I'm using Word 2000 on XP (though this also happened on 98SE). On *some*
> documents only, when I spell check (F7) I'm getting the message 'Word cannot
> find the spelling file MSSSpell32.dll. I also get a similar message about a
> grammar file. The original documents have been sent to me by someone who
> uses Word 2003. I though all documents were compatible. Has anyone else
> experienced this message and what is it all about?
>
This "someone" who provided the document: was the Word version on their system
originally installed as part of the Works suite?

If you ctrl+A, then in Tools/Langauges/Set language choose your preferred
language for the document, does that change anything?

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
http://www.word.mvps.org

This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply
in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-)

Re: Strange spelling message
<aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> 06.07.2006 20:35:51
Thanks for the reply Cindy. I will investigate further and report back.

"Cindy M -WordMVP-" <C.Meister-C[ at ]hispeed.ch> wrote in message
news:VA.0000c0ab.0115ec7f[ at ]speedy...
[Quoted Text]
>> I've been advised by a very respected member of the word.newusers ng to
>> post
>> this question here. Apologies to anyone who may have read it already.
>>
>> I'm using Word 2000 on XP (though this also happened on 98SE). On *some*
>> documents only, when I spell check (F7) I'm getting the message 'Word
>> cannot
>> find the spelling file MSSSpell32.dll. I also get a similar message about
>> a
>> grammar file. The original documents have been sent to me by someone who
>> uses Word 2003. I though all documents were compatible. Has anyone else
>> experienced this message and what is it all about?
>>
> This "someone" who provided the document: was the Word version on their
> system
> originally installed as part of the Works suite?
>
> If you ctrl+A, then in Tools/Langauges/Set language choose your preferred
> language for the document, does that change anything?
>
> Cindy Meister
> INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
> http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
> http://www.word.mvps.org
>
> This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or
> reply
> in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-)
>


Re: Strange spelling message
<aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> 07.07.2006 07:12:01
OK. Here's what I found: This happens in two or three files from this
person (who is off the air at the moment) that all contain foreign words,
especially German. Therefore I would expect my spellcheck to simply object
to the words and not produce this odd error message. Most documents work OK
with the normal spell check (ie they are either there or have been added).
So why a problem with these 3. Do documents have some sort of marker on them
that goes to the MSSSPELL32.dll file and objects if it can't find it?

Second problem, if I click OK on the message, the spell check passes the
rest of the document as OK, even if there are misspellings in it. If I
deliberately put a dummy wrong word in *before* the foreign place name the
spell check finds it OK; if I put it *after* the foreign word and therefore
the strange message then spell check does not find it. Anyone seen this,
and could some kind person with Word 2003 look and see if they have
MSSSpell32.dll. (I do have MSSpell3.dll). I do not intend to meddle with
Word as it is so complex, so I'm not asking to be sent the file; just to
know if it's there.


<aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:44ad742b[ at ]dnews.tpgi.com.au...
[Quoted Text]
> Thanks for the reply Cindy. I will investigate further and report back.
>
> "Cindy M -WordMVP-" <C.Meister-C[ at ]hispeed.ch> wrote in message
> news:VA.0000c0ab.0115ec7f[ at ]speedy...
>>> I've been advised by a very respected member of the word.newusers ng to
>>> post
>>> this question here. Apologies to anyone who may have read it already.
>>>
>>> I'm using Word 2000 on XP (though this also happened on 98SE). On *some*
>>> documents only, when I spell check (F7) I'm getting the message 'Word
>>> cannot
>>> find the spelling file MSSSpell32.dll. I also get a similar message
>>> about a
>>> grammar file. The original documents have been sent to me by someone who
>>> uses Word 2003. I though all documents were compatible. Has anyone else
>>> experienced this message and what is it all about?
>>>
>> This "someone" who provided the document: was the Word version on their
>> system
>> originally installed as part of the Works suite?
>>
>> If you ctrl+A, then in Tools/Langauges/Set language choose your preferred
>> language for the document, does that change anything?
>>
>> Cindy Meister
>> INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
>> http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
>> http://www.word.mvps.org
>>
>> This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or
>> reply
>> in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-)
>>
>
>


Re: Strange spelling message
<aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> 07.07.2006 07:22:18
And sorry, did not reply to the suggestion re change language. Language is
correctly set at English Australian.

<aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:44ae0944[ at ]dnews.tpgi.com.au...
[Quoted Text]
> OK. Here's what I found: This happens in two or three files from this
> person (who is off the air at the moment) that all contain foreign words,
> especially German. Therefore I would expect my spellcheck to simply
> object to the words and not produce this odd error message. Most documents
> work OK with the normal spell check (ie they are either there or have been
> added). So why a problem with these 3. Do documents have some sort of
> marker on them that goes to the MSSSPELL32.dll file and objects if it
> can't find it?
>
> Second problem, if I click OK on the message, the spell check passes the
> rest of the document as OK, even if there are misspellings in it. If I
> deliberately put a dummy wrong word in *before* the foreign place name the
> spell check finds it OK; if I put it *after* the foreign word and
> therefore the strange message then spell check does not find it. Anyone
> seen this, and could some kind person with Word 2003 look and see if they
> have MSSSpell32.dll. (I do have MSSpell3.dll). I do not intend to meddle
> with Word as it is so complex, so I'm not asking to be sent the file; just
> to know if it's there.
>
>
> <aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:44ad742b[ at ]dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> Thanks for the reply Cindy. I will investigate further and report back.
>>
>> "Cindy M -WordMVP-" <C.Meister-C[ at ]hispeed.ch> wrote in message
>> news:VA.0000c0ab.0115ec7f[ at ]speedy...
>>>> I've been advised by a very respected member of the word.newusers ng to
>>>> post
>>>> this question here. Apologies to anyone who may have read it already.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using Word 2000 on XP (though this also happened on 98SE). On
>>>> *some*
>>>> documents only, when I spell check (F7) I'm getting the message 'Word
>>>> cannot
>>>> find the spelling file MSSSpell32.dll. I also get a similar message
>>>> about a
>>>> grammar file. The original documents have been sent to me by someone
>>>> who
>>>> uses Word 2003. I though all documents were compatible. Has anyone
>>>> else
>>>> experienced this message and what is it all about?
>>>>
>>> This "someone" who provided the document: was the Word version on their
>>> system
>>> originally installed as part of the Works suite?
>>>
>>> If you ctrl+A, then in Tools/Langauges/Set language choose your
>>> preferred
>>> language for the document, does that change anything?
>>>
>>> Cindy Meister
>>> INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
>>> http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
>>> http://www.word.mvps.org
>>>
>>> This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question
>>> or reply
>>> in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-)
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: Strange spelling message
<aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> 07.07.2006 19:49:59
Hello again all

At a crazy time in the early hours of Sat (Australia) have done some more
experiments. Here are the findings. You will recall that this problem only
happens with *some* documents. I have taken one and have removed the
unusual words (which were in fact Dutch). The same error message came up,
even although every word was correct in the document.

Next, I typed the original unusual words by hand into a fresh document.. The
spell check operated normally and challenged the words, which of course it
did not know.

So, the original document is marked (corrupted?) in some way and attempts to
spell check it give this odd message, and prevent the spell check from
working properly. However, this is *not* because of the unusual words.
Removing them made no difference.

Finally, I selected all and copied to an entirely blank document. The
problem transferred to this. So the marking.corruption transferred with the
text.

The plot thickens...

BTW everyone. As no solutions seem to be forthcoming so far, has anyone
another ng to suggest (or Microsoft?)

<aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:44ae0bae[ at ]dnews.tpgi.com.au...
[Quoted Text]
> And sorry, did not reply to the suggestion re change language. Language is
> correctly set at English Australian.
>
> <aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:44ae0944[ at ]dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> OK. Here's what I found: This happens in two or three files from this
>> person (who is off the air at the moment) that all contain foreign words,
>> especially German. Therefore I would expect my spellcheck to simply
>> object to the words and not produce this odd error message. Most
>> documents work OK with the normal spell check (ie they are either there
>> or have been added). So why a problem with these 3. Do documents have
>> some sort of marker on them that goes to the MSSSPELL32.dll file and
>> objects if it can't find it?
>>
>> Second problem, if I click OK on the message, the spell check passes the
>> rest of the document as OK, even if there are misspellings in it. If I
>> deliberately put a dummy wrong word in *before* the foreign place name
>> the spell check finds it OK; if I put it *after* the foreign word and
>> therefore the strange message then spell check does not find it. Anyone
>> seen this, and could some kind person with Word 2003 look and see if they
>> have MSSSpell32.dll. (I do have MSSpell3.dll). I do not intend to meddle
>> with Word as it is so complex, so I'm not asking to be sent the file;
>> just to know if it's there.
>>
>>
>> <aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:44ad742b[ at ]dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>> Thanks for the reply Cindy. I will investigate further and report back.
>>>
>>> "Cindy M -WordMVP-" <C.Meister-C[ at ]hispeed.ch> wrote in message
>>> news:VA.0000c0ab.0115ec7f[ at ]speedy...
>>>>> I've been advised by a very respected member of the word.newusers ng
>>>>> to post
>>>>> this question here. Apologies to anyone who may have read it already.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using Word 2000 on XP (though this also happened on 98SE). On
>>>>> *some*
>>>>> documents only, when I spell check (F7) I'm getting the message 'Word
>>>>> cannot
>>>>> find the spelling file MSSSpell32.dll. I also get a similar message
>>>>> about a
>>>>> grammar file. The original documents have been sent to me by someone
>>>>> who
>>>>> uses Word 2003. I though all documents were compatible. Has anyone
>>>>> else
>>>>> experienced this message and what is it all about?
>>>>>
>>>> This "someone" who provided the document: was the Word version on their
>>>> system
>>>> originally installed as part of the Works suite?
>>>>
>>>> If you ctrl+A, then in Tools/Langauges/Set language choose your
>>>> preferred
>>>> language for the document, does that change anything?
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Meister
>>>> INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
>>>> http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
>>>> http://www.word.mvps.org
>>>>
>>>> This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question
>>>> or reply
>>>> in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: Strange spelling message
Cindy M -WordMVP- <C.Meister-C[ at ]hispeed.ch> 09.07.2006 12:20:51
[Quoted Text]
> At a crazy time in the early hours of Sat (Australia) have done some more
> experiments. Here are the findings. You will recall that this problem
only
> happens with *some* documents. I have taken one and have removed the
> unusual words (which were in fact Dutch). The same error message came up,
> even although every word was correct in the document.
>
> Next, I typed the original unusual words by hand into a fresh document..
The
> spell check operated normally and challenged the words, which of course it
> did not know.
>
> So, the original document is marked (corrupted?) in some way and attempts
to
> spell check it give this odd message, and prevent the spell check from
> working properly. However, this is *not* because of the unusual words.
> Removing them made no difference.
>
> Finally, I selected all and copied to an entirely blank document. The
> problem transferred to this. So the marking.corruption transferred with the
> text.
>
Language settings are formatting, just like bold or font size. So
copying/pasting probably brought whatever-it-is right along.

> And sorry, did not reply to the suggestion re change language. Language is
> correctly set at English Australian.
>
You checked the language setting. But did you Ctrl+A, then SET the language
(click on the language name), then "OK"?

It seems fairly clear that this document was created with a set of proofing
tools not available on your system (in Works, for example). In order to rid
yourself of the unavailable formatting tag you have to reset the
formatting...

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
http://www.word.mvps.org

This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or
reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-)

Re: Strange spelling message
<aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> 09.07.2006 20:35:07

"Cindy M -WordMVP-" <C.Meister-C[ at ]hispeed.ch> wrote in message
news:VA.0000c0eb.00d23dc7[ at ]speedy...
[Quoted Text]
>> At a crazy time in the early hours of Sat (Australia) have done some more
>> experiments. Here are the findings. You will recall that this problem
> only
>> happens with *some* documents. I have taken one and have removed the
>> unusual words (which were in fact Dutch). The same error message came up,
>> even although every word was correct in the document.
>>
>> Next, I typed the original unusual words by hand into a fresh document..
> The
>> spell check operated normally and challenged the words, which of course
>> it
>> did not know.
>>
>> So, the original document is marked (corrupted?) in some way and attempts
> to
>> spell check it give this odd message, and prevent the spell check from
>> working properly. However, this is *not* because of the unusual words.
>> Removing them made no difference.
>>
>> Finally, I selected all and copied to an entirely blank document. The
>> problem transferred to this. So the marking.corruption transferred with
>> the
>> text.
>>
> Language settings are formatting, just like bold or font size. So
> copying/pasting probably brought whatever-it-is right along.
>
>> And sorry, did not reply to the suggestion re change language. Language
>> is
>> correctly set at English Australian.
>>
> You checked the language setting. But did you Ctrl+A, then SET the
> language
> (click on the language name), then "OK"?
>
****And that was it! Seeing that the language setting was correct I had
just left it, but if as you suggested I did a CTRL-A then set the language
and then OK, it worked! Joy! But joy turned to ashes in my mouth later. I
saved the document after doing the above and after spell checking, and next
time I opened it there was the same problem. So somehow the revised language
for all is not being saved. What now? ****



> It seems fairly clear that this document was created with a set of
> proofing
> tools not available on your system (in Works, for example). In order to
> rid
> yourself of the unavailable formatting tag you have to reset the
> formatting...
>
> Cindy Meister
> INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
> http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
> http://www.word.mvps.org
>
> This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or
> reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-)
>


Re: Strange spelling message
<aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> 09.07.2006 21:17:26

<aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:44b16886[ at ]dnews.tpgi.com.au...

Cindy wrote

[Quoted Text]
>> You checked the language setting. But did you Ctrl+A, then SET the
>> language
>> (click on the language name), then "OK"?
>>

> ****And that was it! Seeing that the language setting was correct I had
> just left it, but if as you suggested I did a CTRL-A then set the language
> and then OK, it worked! Joy! But joy turned to ashes in my mouth later. I
> saved the document after doing the above and after spell checking, and
> next time I opened it there was the same problem. So somehow the revised
> language for all is not being saved. What now? ****
>

>> It seems fairly clear that this document was created with a set of
>> proofing
>> tools not available on your system (in Works, for example). In order to
>> rid
>> yourself of the unavailable formatting tag you have to reset the
>> formatting...
>>
>> Cindy Meister

***And now it is solved. Must buy you a meal when I'm next in Grindelwald.
Thanks so much Cindy. I found that I was just clicking OK if the right
language was underlined. Clearly that was not enough. If I explicitly
highlight the right language (in my case Australia) and then press OK, first
of all I can now spell check and second it saves it with the document, so
now is all OK. I've looked into this further. If you click on successive
places in a document that is having this 'Word cannot find ***32.dll'
problem, you will find that the language (shown at the lower bar) changes.
Scrolling with the mouse wheel does not work; you must explicitly click.
BTW, essential to solve this problem, as spell was not picking up any errors
after the problem point. Now the problem is solved, it does find the errors.
I now have another question and will start a new thread for that.

Thanks again Cindy and everyone else.


Re: Strange spelling message
Cindy M -WordMVP- <C.Meister-C[ at ]hispeed.ch> 10.07.2006 09:13:09
[Quoted Text]
> And now it is solved.
>
I am *SO* glad you stuck with it and figured out all the
nasty little angles :-)

-- Cindy Meister

Re: Strange spelling message
<aalaan[ at ]tpg.com.au> 10.07.2006 18:13:12
"Cindy M -WordMVP-" <C.Meister-C[ at ]hispeed.ch> wrote in message
news:VA.0000c0f9.007d86b4[ at ]speedy...
[Quoted Text]
>> And now it is solved.
>>
> I am *SO* glad you stuck with it and figured out all the
> nasty little angles :-)
>
> -- Cindy Meister

As it happened, *I* was the 'nastly little angle' :-] having not followed
your very clear instructions to the letter...


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