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Access to SQL
"Bill" <bill[ at ]bill.com> 04.07.2006 19:07:40
Hi All,

Forgive my ignorance here and if this is the wrong forum then apologies and
can you advise where it should go please.

I am a mere mortal who has developed an Access 2003 shared database that has
outgrown its original single use brief and is now in use across the
organisation. We recently had a corruption that required some work getting
the database back and we now want to transfer to the correct IT support team
for improved resilience and ongoing development and maintenance. They have
both Oracle and SQL Server and while I appreciate that this is perhaps not
the forum to get an unbiased view ;-) can anyone give me, or direct me to
advice on what we should be using please.

Also for my benefit would the application still run through Access for the
front end forms and SQL for the backend database?

Thanks for any help.
Bill


Re: Access to SQL
"David Portas" <REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dportas[ at ]acm.org> 04.07.2006 20:26:14
Bill wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Hi All,
>
> Forgive my ignorance here and if this is the wrong forum then apologies and
> can you advise where it should go please.
>
> I am a mere mortal who has developed an Access 2003 shared database that has
> outgrown its original single use brief and is now in use across the
> organisation. We recently had a corruption that required some work getting
> the database back and we now want to transfer to the correct IT support team
> for improved resilience and ongoing development and maintenance. They have
> both Oracle and SQL Server and while I appreciate that this is perhaps not
> the forum to get an unbiased view ;-) can anyone give me, or direct me to
> advice on what we should be using please.
>
> Also for my benefit would the application still run through Access for the
> front end forms and SQL for the backend database?
>
> Thanks for any help.
> Bill

Access can act as a front end for SQL Server, Oracle or any other
database that supports an OLEDB provider.

I can't tell you whether to use SQL Server or Oracle because I don't
know your business, your requirements or your IT environment. In
principle, those who run IT / IS for your business should be
best-placed to make that decision. If they are going to develop the new
database then best listen to their advice first. What do they say?

--
David Portas, SQL Server MVP

Whenever possible please post enough code to reproduce your problem.
Including CREATE TABLE and INSERT statements usually helps.
State what version of SQL Server you are using and specify the content
of any error messages.

SQL Server Books Online:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/ms130214(en-US,SQL.90).aspx
--

Re: Access to SQL
"Bill" <bill[ at ]bill.com> 04.07.2006 21:24:06


[Quoted Text]
>
> Access can act as a front end for SQL Server, Oracle or any other
> database that supports an OLEDB provider.
>
> I can't tell you whether to use SQL Server or Oracle because I don't
> know your business, your requirements or your IT environment. In
> principle, those who run IT / IS for your business should be
> best-placed to make that decision. If they are going to develop the new
> database then best listen to their advice first. What do they say?
>
> --
> David Portas, SQL Server MVP
>
> Whenever possible please post enough code to reproduce your problem.
> Including CREATE TABLE and INSERT statements usually helps.
> State what version of SQL Server you are using and specify the content
> of any error messages.
>
> SQL Server Books Online:
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/ms130214(en-US,SQL.90).aspx
> --
>
David,

Trouble is I suspect the advice from IT has a pro Oracle bias!!!

Regards.
Bill


Re: Access to SQL
"David Portas" <REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dportas[ at ]acm.org> 04.07.2006 22:22:23
Bill wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> David,
>
> Trouble is I suspect the advice from IT has a pro Oracle bias!!!
>
> Regards.
> Bill

If IT will be responsible for developing and supporting the system then
what should matter to you is their ability to deliver a service, not
whether their opinion is biased or not. If your IT department has a big
investment in a particular DBMS and if their skills base is mostly
centred on that DBMS then probably that IS the platform on which they
can provide the best service to you as an IT customer. The real problem
seems to be that you don't trust your IT department. That's not
something we can solve in this newsgroup.

If you want to compare the features of SQL Server and Oracle in general
then take a look at:

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/default.mspx
http://www.oracle.com/database/index.html

--
David Portas, SQL Server MVP

Whenever possible please post enough code to reproduce your problem.
Including CREATE TABLE and INSERT statements usually helps.
State what version of SQL Server you are using and specify the content
of any error messages.

SQL Server Books Online:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/ms130214(en-US,SQL.90).aspx
--

Re: Access to SQL
"Gil Lapid Shafriri" <gilsh[ at ]microsoft.com> 08.07.2006 07:36:56
It is my understanding that ADP project can work only against SQL Server
and not against any general OLEDB provider. If you want Access to work
against non SQL Server database you have to choose the linked table approach
and not an ADP project. There are plus and minuses to each approach but if
you like ADP then you can try to make the case for using SQL Server.

Gil Lapid Shafriri
Program Manager
SQL Server Migration Assistant
Microsoft
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/solutions/migration/default.mspx







"David Portas" <REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dportas[ at ]acm.org> wrote in message
news:1152051742.996970.267690[ at ]75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Bill wrote:
>> David,
>>
>> Trouble is I suspect the advice from IT has a pro Oracle bias!!!
>>
>> Regards.
>> Bill
>
> If IT will be responsible for developing and supporting the system then
> what should matter to you is their ability to deliver a service, not
> whether their opinion is biased or not. If your IT department has a big
> investment in a particular DBMS and if their skills base is mostly
> centred on that DBMS then probably that IS the platform on which they
> can provide the best service to you as an IT customer. The real problem
> seems to be that you don't trust your IT department. That's not
> something we can solve in this newsgroup.
>
> If you want to compare the features of SQL Server and Oracle in general
> then take a look at:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/default.mspx
> http://www.oracle.com/database/index.html
>
> --
> David Portas, SQL Server MVP
>
> Whenever possible please post enough code to reproduce your problem.
> Including CREATE TABLE and INSERT statements usually helps.
> State what version of SQL Server you are using and specify the content
> of any error messages.
>
> SQL Server Books Online:
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/ms130214(en-US,SQL.90).aspx
> --
>


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"Bill" <bill[ at ]bill.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
> Hi All,
>
> Forgive my ignorance here and if this is the wrong forum then apologies
and
> can you advise where it should go please.
>
> I am a mere mortal who has developed an Access 2003 shared database that
has
> outgrown its original single use brief and is now in use across the
> organisation. We recently had a corruption that required some work getting
> the database back and we now want to transfer to the correct IT support
team
> for improved resilience and ongoing development and maintenance. They have
> both Oracle and SQL Server and while I appreciate that this is perhaps not
> the forum to get an unbiased view ;-) can anyone give me, or direct me to
> advice on what we should be using please.
>
> Also for my benefit would the application still run through Access for the
> front end forms and SQL for the backend database?
>
> Thanks for any help.
> Bill
>
>


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