Is there a way to streamline to-do entries? Jeff 15.07.2006 19:51:01 Spent the morning converting a bunch of my random documents and lists into On Note beta – very nice product and I’m really starting to like it already. So far the only annoying thing I’ve found is the To-Do list support is a little clumsy, unless I’m missing an option I can’t find in here. I use a ton of lists and I like to just create very simple checkbox lists easily. Currently the only way I can see to do this is to type a few items in and then select them with the mouse and then click on the flag option to make them to-do items. Either that or use a keyboard shortcut. What I’d like to be able to do is create a note section that indicates every line I add into this section will be a to-do item. This would save me a ton of mouse/keyboard work when generating the raft of to-do lists I use. I know it kind of hits your generic “flag” approach a little sideways but many of the productivity tools I’ve used in the past have some sort of concept along these lines specific to to-do lists since they’re so common. So far other than that, I’m really starting to enjoy it – grabbing sections of web pages and such is really nice. A lot of what I do is evaluate user interfaces for web stuff and this is just crazy-cool for me.

Re: Is there a way to streamline to-do entries? Ben M. Schorr - MVP <bens[ at ]bogusaddress.mvp> 15.07.2006 20:12:49 Aloha Jeff, I suppose you could create a template that includes pre-created lines already flagged with checkboxes that you could just fill in your items. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr - MVP Roland Schorr & Tower http://www.rolandschorr.com Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm [Quoted Text] > Spent the morning converting a bunch of my random documents and lists > into On Note beta – very nice product and I’m really starting to like > it already. > > So far the only annoying thing I’ve found is the To-Do list support is > a little clumsy, unless I’m missing an option I can’t find in here. I > use a ton of lists and I like to just create very simple checkbox > lists easily. Currently the only way I can see to do this is to type > a few items in and then select them with the mouse and then click on > the flag option to make them to-do items. Either that or use a > keyboard shortcut. > > What I’d like to be able to do is create a note section that indicates > every line I add into this section will be a to-do item. This would > save me a ton of mouse/keyboard work when generating the raft of to-do > lists I use. I know it kind of hits your generic “flag” approach a > little sideways but many of the productivity tools I’ve used in the > past have some sort of concept along these lines specific to to-do > lists since they’re so common. > > So far other than that, I’m really starting to enjoy it – grabbing > sections of web pages and such is really nice. A lot of what I do is > evaluate user interfaces for web stuff and this is just crazy-cool for > me. >

Re: Is there a way to streamline to-do entries? Jeff 15.07.2006 20:25:01 Yeah, I thought about that but on several of my pages I have mutliple lists that I add to a single page as I go - a single template that just has a ton of pre made to-do flags on it doesn't really work well there. Having a note section "default flag" would be really cool - when I create the note section it can default to nothing (i.e. like it is now) but let me right click on it and select default flag. I think lots of folks would find this type of functionality nice for various types of lists. Either that or follow the Word bullet list convention - if you move to the end of a line that's flagged (i.e. for a "to-do" flag) and you hit enter, the next line is also a to-do flagged item. This would also work well for me and would probably involve less violence to the code. It also follows existing convention. "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Aloha Jeff, > > I suppose you could create a template that includes pre-created lines already > flagged with checkboxes that you could just fill in your items. > > -Ben- > Ben M. Schorr - MVP > Roland Schorr & Tower > http://www.rolandschorr.com > Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm > > > Spent the morning converting a bunch of my random documents and lists > > into On Note beta – very nice product and I’m really starting to like > > it already. > > > > So far the only annoying thing I’ve found is the To-Do list support is > > a little clumsy, unless I’m missing an option I can’t find in here. I > > use a ton of lists and I like to just create very simple checkbox > > lists easily. Currently the only way I can see to do this is to type > > a few items in and then select them with the mouse and then click on > > the flag option to make them to-do items. Either that or use a > > keyboard shortcut. > > > > What I’d like to be able to do is create a note section that indicates > > every line I add into this section will be a to-do item. This would > > save me a ton of mouse/keyboard work when generating the raft of to-do > > lists I use. I know it kind of hits your generic “flag” approach a > > little sideways but many of the productivity tools I’ve used in the > > past have some sort of concept along these lines specific to to-do > > lists since they’re so common. > > > > So far other than that, I’m really starting to enjoy it – grabbing > > sections of web pages and such is really nice. A lot of what I do is > > evaluate user interfaces for web stuff and this is just crazy-cool for > > me. > > > > >

Re: Is there a way to streamline to-do entries? Jeff 16.07.2006 16:12:01 Yeah, I'm already doing that. But try this as a test. Put 4 or 5 seperate to do lists on a page and then add one or two to each using this method and count how many times you have to move the mouse and click and/or use the keyboard. Compare this with 4 or 5 bullet lists in a word doc. No mouse swipes or clicks involved, it's much faster and far more efficient. I'm not arguing you can't do it. I'm arguing that it can be much, much more streamlined and easier without having to impose on the rest of the functionality of the application. Lists are, by their nature, repeated items. The chances that the next thing I want to add immediately after a member of such as list is _also_ a member of that list is pretty high. The app should assume that unless I tell it otherwise. As opposed to forcing me to essentially create new smaller lists each and every time I add to any of them. Pretty basic UI convention... The Word implementation of bullet/number lists is an excellent example of how to do this correctly. It allows easy addition to a list and also allows you to easily break the list with the minium of fuss. I find this much more intuative and efficient than the list model (or non list model) of the OneNote approach. -J "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Aloha Ben, > > Or maybe that's how you're already doing it? If so...it's a pretty easy > solution. One mouse swipe and one click to convert an entire list to To-Dos. > > -Ben- > Ben M. Schorr - MVP > Roland Schorr & Tower > http://www.rolandschorr.com > Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm > > > Aloha Jeff, > > > > Create your list, with enters at the end of each line, then highlight > > the entire group of them and click the note flag. OneNote will apply > > individual checkbox flags (or whatever flag you picked) to each line. > > > > -Ben- > > Ben M. Schorr - MVP > > Roland Schorr & Tower > > http://www.rolandschorr.com > > Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm > >> Yeah, I thought about that but on several of my pages I have mutliple > >> lists that I add to a single page as I go - a single template that > >> just has a ton of pre made to-do flags on it doesn't really work well > >> there. Having a note section "default flag" would be really cool - > >> when I create the note section it can default to nothing (i.e. like > >> it is now) but let me right click on it and select default flag. I > >> think lots of folks would find this type of functionality nice for > >> various types of lists. > >> > >> Either that or follow the Word bullet list convention - if you move > >> to the end of a line that's flagged (i.e. for a "to-do" flag) and you > >> hit enter, the next line is also a to-do flagged item. This would > >> also work well for me and would probably involve less violence to the > >> code. It also follows existing convention. > >> > >> "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" wrote: > >> > >>> Aloha Jeff, > >>> > >>> I suppose you could create a template that includes pre-created > >>> lines already flagged with checkboxes that you could just fill in > >>> your items. > >>> > >>> -Ben- > >>> Ben M. Schorr - MVP > >>> Roland Schorr & Tower > >>> http://www.rolandschorr.com > >>> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm > >>>> Spent the morning converting a bunch of my random documents and > >>>> lists into On Note beta – very nice product and I’m really starting > >>>> to like it already. > >>>> > >>>> So far the only annoying thing I’ve found is the To-Do list support > >>>> is a little clumsy, unless I’m missing an option I can’t find in > >>>> here. I use a ton of lists and I like to just create very simple > >>>> checkbox lists easily. Currently the only way I can see to do this > >>>> is to type a few items in and then select them with the mouse and > >>>> then click on the flag option to make them to-do items. Either > >>>> that or use a keyboard shortcut. > >>>> > >>>> What I’d like to be able to do is create a note section that > >>>> indicates every line I add into this section will be a to-do item. > >>>> This would save me a ton of mouse/keyboard work when generating the > >>>> raft of to-do lists I use. I know it kind of hits your generic > >>>> “flag” approach a little sideways but many of the productivity > >>>> tools I’ve used in the past have some sort of concept along these > >>>> lines specific to to-do lists since they’re so common. > >>>> > >>>> So far other than that, I’m really starting to enjoy it – grabbing > >>>> sections of web pages and such is really nice. A lot of what I do > >>>> is evaluate user interfaces for web stuff and this is just > >>>> crazy-cool for me. > >>>> > > >

Re: Is there a way to streamline to-do entries? "Kathy Jacobs" <call_kathy[ at ]knotcox.net> 16.07.2006 16:12:50 What I do: I make sure that my to do flag is one of the first nine. Then, I can just press the appropriate control key (either for each entry or for the selected entries) and the to do flag is applied.(Keeps me from needing to go to the mouse to apply the flags.) Might that work? -- Kathryn Jacobs, Microsoft MVP PowerPoint and OneNote Author of Kathy Jacobs on PowerPoint - Available now from Holy Macro! Books Get PowerPoint and OneNote information at www.onppt.com I believe life is meant to be lived. But: if we live without making a difference, it makes no difference that we lived "Jeff" <Jeff[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:56585EF2-0B35-4652-AD18-831DF9DEF159[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Spent the morning converting a bunch of my random documents and lists into > On > Note beta - very nice product and I'm really starting to like it already. > > So far the only annoying thing I've found is the To-Do list support is a > little clumsy, unless I'm missing an option I can't find in here. I use a > ton of lists and I like to just create very simple checkbox lists easily. > Currently the only way I can see to do this is to type a few items in and > then select them with the mouse and then click on the flag option to make > them to-do items. Either that or use a keyboard shortcut. > > What I'd like to be able to do is create a note section that indicates > every > line I add into this section will be a to-do item. This would save me a > ton > of mouse/keyboard work when generating the raft of to-do lists I use. I > know it kind of hits your generic "flag" approach a little sideways but > many > of the productivity tools I've used in the past have some sort of concept > along these lines specific to to-do lists since they're so common. > > So far other than that, I'm really starting to enjoy it - grabbing > sections > of web pages and such is really nice. A lot of what I do is evaluate user > interfaces for web stuff and this is just crazy-cool for me. >

Re: Is there a way to streamline to-do entries? "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 18.07.2006 10:28:04 "Jeff" <Jeff[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:2E0E851C-525F-47EE-8E6A-F3C44EC7177A[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Lists are, by their nature, repeated items. The chances that the > next thing > I want to add immediately after a member of such as list is _also_ a > member > of that list is pretty high. The app should assume that unless I > tell it > otherwise. As opposed to forcing me to essentially create new > smaller lists > each and every time I add to any of them. Pretty basic UI > convention... Sorry Jeff, I see your point. But I would not follow you in so far. For the way I work this would mean a real downside. I hardly ever create a ToDo list additional lines (with a few explanations). If the system would work like you would want to have it, at each new line I would have to unselect /delete the flag and or start a new line for the same topic with Shift+Enter. I do not think that the system should just make assumptions. It should do what I tell it <g,d&r> Honestly speaking it took me quite a while to really get accustomed to the way WinWord handles lists with bullet points an numbering. Still I do not feel too comfortable with it :-( :-( Rainald

Re: Is there a way to streamline to-do entries? "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 18.07.2006 10:32:08 "Kathy Jacobs" <call_kathy[ at ]knotcox.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:OVKxwKPqGHA.4408[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > What I do: > I make sure that my to do flag is one of the first nine. Then, I can > just press the appropriate control key (either for each entry or for > the selected entries) and the to do flag is applied.(Keeps me from > needing to go to the mouse to apply the flags.) Thanks, Kathy, Really nice suggestion. For my way of working with lists I'd prefer this over some kind of automatic flagging. Rainald

Re: Is there a way to streamline to-do entries? Grant Robertson <BOGUS[ at ]BOGUS.com> 18.07.2006 11:59:48 In article <uP9g2TlqGHA.4760[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, taesler[ at ]gmx.de says... [Quoted Text] > If the system would work like you would want to have it, at each new > line I would have to unselect /delete the flag and or start a new line > for the same topic with Shift+Enter. I agree. I make heavy use of regular text formatting such as bold, italic, subscript & superscript. I have a hard enough time with turning all of that off BEFORE I hit enter at the end of a line as it is. I would hate to add turning off all the note flags AFTER hitting return as well. In fact, I would much prefer it if OneNote cleared ALL formatting for every new paragraph. What they could do is provide a special key combination that would start a new paragraph and COPY all the formatting of the old paragraph. They could then create a toolbar button to do this so the feature would be available to stylus users as well. They could use something like ctrl- enter or some other enter key combination that isn't already used.

Re: Is there a way to streamline to-do entries? "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 18.07.2006 23:20:32 Grant Robertson shared these words of wisdom: [Quoted Text] > What they could do is provide a special key combination that > would start a new paragraph and COPY all the formatting of the > old paragraph. They could then create a toolbar button to do > this so the feature would be available to stylus users as well. > They could use something like ctrl- enter or some other enter > key combination that isn't already used. I like this idea. How about posting in Connect? Rainald