Beta 2007 -Toolbar next to Menu toolbar? OneDave 15.07.2006 03:26:02 I am trying to customize my ON toolbars to maximize available screen turf on my tablet. When I drag a toolbar to be beside the Menu toolbar, the Menu tool bar jumps down or up so as to stay on its own line. Space on the Menu toolbar line is left unoccupied (i.e., wasted). -- Thanks Dave

Re: Beta 2007 -Toolbar next to Menu toolbar? "Patrick Schmid" <pds-ms[ at ]nospam.pschmid.net> 15.07.2006 03:32:33 Menubars and toolbars can't share the same row as far as I know. Have you seen the maximize feature? It's the button to the right of help. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "OneDave" <OneDave[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1240DA7F-A85B-48EE-AB8D-8F22DFEC39D7[ at ]microsoft.com: [Quoted Text] > I am trying to customize my ON toolbars to maximize available screen turf on > my tablet. When I drag a toolbar to be beside the Menu toolbar, the Menu tool > bar jumps down or up so as to stay on its own line. Space on the Menu toolbar > line is left unoccupied (i.e., wasted). > -- > Thanks > Dave

Re: Beta 2007 -Toolbar next to Menu toolbar? OneDave 15.07.2006 06:18:01 Thanks anyhow. As displays get smaller, I hope designers will consider the 'price' of space they put things in... -- Thanks Dave "Patrick Schmid" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Menubars and toolbars can't share the same row as far as I know. > Have you seen the maximize feature? It's the button to the right of > help. > > Patrick Schmid > -------------- > http://pschmid.net > > "OneDave" <OneDave[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1240DA7F-A85B-48EE-AB8D-8F22DFEC39D7[ at ]microsoft.com: > > > I am trying to customize my ON toolbars to maximize available screen turf on > > my tablet. When I drag a toolbar to be beside the Menu toolbar, the Menu tool > > bar jumps down or up so as to stay on its own line. Space on the Menu toolbar > > line is left unoccupied (i.e., wasted). > > -- > > Thanks > > Dave > >

Re: Beta 2007 -Toolbar next to Menu toolbar? "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 15.07.2006 13:12:15 Patrick Schmid shared these words of wisdom: [Quoted Text] >> I am trying to customize my ON toolbars to maximize available >> screen turf on my tablet. When I drag a toolbar to be beside >> the Menu toolbar, the Menu tool bar jumps down or up so as to >> stay on its own line. Space on the Menu toolbar line is left >> unoccupied (i.e., wasted). -- > Menubars and toolbars can't share the same row as far as I know. Yes. Unfortunately! It can be done in quite a number of applications, f.e. in the Internet Explorer and Outlook Express. That Office applications (Office 2003, have not tested anything of 2007 except ON) do not allow this, IMO is a true shortcoming. Valuable screen real estate is gained the way I have set up my IE. > Have you seen the maximize feature? It's the button to the right > of help. You mean the "Full page view"? As an aside: Most crazy thing I've ever seen to use a "$" sign as icon for this feature ... This is not of help at all in so far as it only removes *parts* the "Standard" toolbar - crazy enough <!!> - but not totally (the not selectable "Today" item with the red flag stays behind greyed <!>) and leaves behind the rest of the toolbars. This feature would be a thing of its own if it comes to design flaws. It hides the necessary navigation tools including the necessary navigation means incl. the green "back" and "forward" icons <!>, printing and other items of first rank (being the standard parts of the "Standard" toolbar) but leaves behind any of the other toolbars as well as all of the *selectable* stuff in the "Standard" toolbar and even a not selectable item of the latter. Would need most urgent care IMO. Rainald

Re: Beta 2007 -Toolbar next to Menu toolbar? "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 15.07.2006 13:18:42 OneDave shared these words of wisdom: [Quoted Text] > Thanks anyhow. As displays get smaller, I hope designers will > consider the 'price' of space they put things in... Actually screens are not getting smaller - the in general movement goes into the "CimaScope" direction <g>. Only some types of computers are working with a limit of 1024 resolution. And on a tablet in portrait mode screen real estate is of high importance. Usage of the free area in the area of the menu bar (as is possible with f.e. IE) counts. Rainald