PDF export "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 09.07.2006 12:52:32 The PDF export suffers seriously. Before I go deeper into this: Will this feature still be in the Final? I think remember that recently it was reported that the negotiations between MS and Adobe failed and that MS would not include PDF creation in Office 2007. Will there be a chance to see something like the Acrobat "PDF Maker" macros in the Office applications as we have them now? Rainald

Re: PDF export "Patrick Schmid" <pds-ms[ at ]nospam.pschmid.net> 09.07.2006 16:25:56 [Quoted Text] > The PDF export suffers seriously. > Before I go deeper into this: > Will this feature still be in the Final? Yes and no. It will not be in the product straight out of the box, but you'll be able to download it for free. > Will there be a chance to see something like the Acrobat "PDF Maker" > macros in the Office applications as we have them now? Yuck, please not! Those Adobe add-ins are horribly written and a major pain. Adobe should do everyone a favor and just get rid of them. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net

Re: PDF export "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 09.07.2006 16:53:42 Patrick Schmid <pds-ms[ at ]nospam.pschmid.net> shared these words of wisdom: [Quoted Text] >> The PDF export suffers seriously. >> Before I go deeper into this: >> Will this feature still be in the Final? > > Yes and no. It will not be in the product straight out of the > box, but you'll be able to download it for free. OK, sounds good. >> Will there be a chance to see something like the Acrobat "PDF >> Maker" macros in the Office applications as we have them now? > > Yuck, please not! Those Adobe add-ins are horribly written and a > major pain. Really? It's one of the most used features on my side. Would not know how to work without (because I need more than just a *printer*). How else can one get ineratcive documents having links to the fottnotes and from the TOC to the respective chapter? On how get interactive URLs in the PDF? I got lost twice or three times <g> but I could manage to get it back. Not any other single problem. > Adobe should do everyone a favor and just get rid of > them. PLeeeeeease not!!! At least not until MS will have something which is not as poor as the PDF creation feature in ON 07. Rainald

Re: PDF export Grant Robertson <BOGUS[ at ]BOGUS.com> 10.07.2006 23:17:45 In article <e7Jifl3oGHA.4188[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, taesler[ at ]gmx.de says... [Quoted Text] > > Yuck, please not! Those Adobe add-ins are horribly written and a > > major pain. > > Really? > It's one of the most used features on my side. > Would not know how to work without (because I need more than just a > *printer*). > How else can one get ineratcive documents having links to the > fottnotes and from the TOC to the respective chapter? On how get > interactive URLs in the PDF? Well, you could get the full version of Acrobat and add them in by hand. But then, who wants to go back through an acrobat file and redo all the work they had previously done in the original document. It wouldn't surprise me if the Adobe add-ins didn't work right because Microsoft doesn't want them to work right. It is amazing how many products stop working well just before Microsoft starts marketing a competing product.

Re: PDF export "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 11.07.2006 22:33:21 Grant Robertson <BOGUS[ at ]BOGUS.com> shared these words of wisdom: [Quoted Text] >> How else can one get ineratcive documents having links to the >> fottnotes and from the TOC to the respective chapter? On how get >> interactive URLs in the PDF? > > Well, you could get the full version of Acrobat and add them in > by hand. Beware of that! That's a kind of work for someone in a prison camp who slew his mother and his father ... <bg> I use linking by hand under certain circumstances for some individual links. > But then, who wants to go back through an acrobat file > and redo all the work they had previously done in the original > document. Rightyright! I'm not up to manually add the links for tons of URLs quoted in the footnotes of a student's paper. And not even the TOC of a paper with the respective pages ... > It wouldn't surprise me if the Adobe add-ins didn't work right > because Microsoft doesn't want them to work right. I do not think so. MS for sure has been doing some evil things and - even more important - not done possible thing with respect to competitors' prodcts (think alone of the converters). Apart: I cannot see that the Acrobat PDF-Maker add-ins would not work. They do their job perfectly well (at least for me; and have not herad any reports on problems from my students). > It is amazing > how many products stop working well just before Microsoft starts > marketing a competing product. A legend, IMHO. Any examples? Rainald (who is anything but a person who loves MS and who hads not yet made hisd peace with several MS products)

Re: PDF export Grant Robertson <BOGUS[ at ]BOGUS.com> 12.07.2006 00:26:01 In article <evfvWqTpGHA.2360[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, taesler[ at ]gmx.de says... [Quoted Text] > Rainald > (who is anything but a person who loves MS and who hads not yet made > hisd peace with several MS products) And yet we persevere. And yet we persevere...