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I would like to place hyperlinks to postings in NewsGroups into ON. I do not know, however, syntax the URL would need.
How could this be done?
Rainald P.S. As my newsreader I'm using Outlook Express
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Just bumping it up. Anybody got any idea?
Rainald
Rainald Taesler shared these words of wisdom:
[Quoted Text] > I would like to place hyperlinks to postings in NewsGroups into > ON. I do not know, however, syntax the URL would need. > > How could this be done? > > Rainald > P.S. As my newsreader I'm using Outlook Express
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[Quoted Text] > > I would like to place hyperlinks to postings in NewsGroups into > > ON. I do not know, however, syntax the URL would need.
Of course the easiest way is to use google groups. Find the message then copy the URL out of the address bar of your web browser. I am pretty sure that it will always take you right back to that exact message. It might work the same way for the web based reader for the Microsoft newsgroups. However, this always requires you to be connected to the internet to see the message.
I have seen hyperlinks to newsgroup messages in other newsgroup messages. I think they start with "news://" I think they then have the name of the newsgroup (which makes sense) but I don't know how they encode the message ID. Each message has a unique ID. Depending on the features of your newsreader, clicking on a link like this should open up your default newsreader and go to that message if you have it on your machine. I use Gravity 2.5 and it will only go to that message if I have it set to the correct server. It won't automatically switch servers. Program like Outlook Express which put all the different news servers you use in one hierarchical list will usually go straight to the message regardless of which server it is.
What happens if you don't have the message already downloaded? again, that depends on your newsreader. Remember, OneNote can't make some program do something it wasn't programmed to do. And you can't expect MS to put a newsreader inside OneNote.
Have you been searching the web for info on how to do this? Or have you just been waiting for us to do it for you. I found several discussions about this in other forums just by searching. If I can find it in under a minute then so can you.
Remember, the way you construct the links has nothing to do with OneNote. OneNote just uses the standard methods that everyone else uses.
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Grant Robertson shared these words of wisdom:
Thanks for your suggestions, Grant. I just would have needed a link for to one of my own threads tonight when posting a reply to you ;-)
[Quoted Text] >>> I would like to place hyperlinks to postings in NewsGroups into >>> ON. I do not know, however, syntax the URL would need. > > Of course the easiest way is to use google groups.
Yes, but that's not what I'm looking for.
> ... However, this > always requires you to be connected to the internet to see the > message.
Not only that. Old fashioned in the style of working I simply do not like the we-based fora/groups at all. I need the stuff in a newsreader where I have it all together, can jump up and down, mark postings and colour them, etc., etc.
> I have seen hyperlinks to newsgroup messages in other newsgroup > messages. I think they start with "news://"
That's exactly what I'm looking for.
[...] Depending on the features of your newsreader, clicking on a > link like this should open up your default newsreader and go to > that message if you have it on your machine.
That's exactly what I am after.
> I use Gravity 2.5
I tried it out and played with it (all the "pros" in my old main NG used it). But after a while I returned to OE - mainly because of wanting to have mail and news in the same place (that's one of the main reason why I do use Outlook for mail only when sending "ink" mail from my tablet <g>).
> and it will only go to that message if I have it set to the > correct server. It won't automatically switch servers. Program > like Outlook Express which put all the different news servers > you use in one hierarchical list will usually go straight to the > message regardless of which server it is.
That's the way I know it. Interesting to hear that Gravitity in this respect is less versatile than OE.
> What happens if you don't have the message already downloaded? > again, that depends on your newsreader.
That's not a problem. What I have in mind is to add links to stuff sitting in the OE folders. The aim is to enable direct access to a posting / a thread from a page where I have copied a posting or a part of it to OneNote.
And it would not be a problem - at least with OE - if its a posting which had not been downloaded. OE opens a posting if one uses the proper URL.
> Remember, OneNote can't make some program do something > it wasn't programmed to do. And you can't expect MS > to put a newsreader inside OneNote.
Oh no! This was the last thing on mind .. It's just about storing a link which opens a posting. This works if the link has the format you were talking about.
> Have you been searching the web for info on how to > do this? Or have you just been waiting for us to do > it for you.
Sorry Grant. We had something of this sort a few weeks ago (where it was not me on whom you jumped with the allegation of wanting others to do his job). Not again, pleeeease.
Just to make it clear: I did not at all ask for anybody else doing something for me what I could do myself. But "asked" a question (which makes a lot of a difference [hope you are willing/able to understand this]). IMHO it's not only allowed but one of the main purposes of a forum/NG to ask if someone else might possibly know something. Isn't that a far more economic way than working on inventing a wheel? I simply thought that someone might know the notation of the news:// URLs. Nothing more.
> I found several discussions about this in other forums just by > searching. If I can find it in under a minute then so can you.
No. I am not you. I am not that fast in googling my way around. And honestly speaking even now I do not have any idea on what to search.
And just a pointer from you on your results would have been of help. And it would have costs both of us less time ...
> Remember, the way you construct the links has nothing to do with > OneNote. OneNote just uses the standard methods that everyone > else uses.
Exactly!!! But I simply thought that something might know the syntax of the "news://"-URL . That's all I had asked for. Not more, not less.
Rainald
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In article <OjKPgbsrGHA.4004[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, taesler[ at ]gmx.de says...
[Quoted Text] > Grant Robertson shared these words of wisdom: > > Thanks for your suggestions, Grant. > I just would have needed a link for to one of my own threads tonight > when posting a reply to you ;-)
OK, since you begged for it... ;^)
Now, I don't ever use this and I don't use OE, but the messages I found said to use "news:" and the message ID which you get from the headers. For instance, the message I am replying to has a message ID of
<OjKPgbsrGHA.4004[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
.... in my newsreader. You only use the part before the [ at ] so I would create a link by typing
news:OjKPgbsrGHA.4004
possibly in angle brackets.
But I have tried several versions of this and none of it works in Gravity. You might try some other variations for OE.
Search for "link to newsgroup message" but without the quotes on google. The 5th hit gives you this:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=5 &q=http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t213053-how-do-i-include-a-link- to-a-newsgroup-message.html&e=9797
which you may have to reconstruct.
I also found this:
http://www.insideoe.com/tips/makeOElinks.htm
but it doesn't talk about specific messages.
Maybe you could do this:
news://name-of-news-server/name-of-newsgroup/message-ID(before-the-[ at ])
Personally, I think I would just print the newsgroup message to OneNote or copy and paste the text or something. This whole thing is starting to seem as if it will be very unreliable. The messages I have found claim that one person's newsreader will use one message ID while someone elses newsreader has a different message ID for the same message. This may be due to the fact that the messages come to various people via different routes. You will also have to depend on the messages to ALWAYS be available in your newsreader and they might get purged out due to age or something.
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