Office Used ZorroThePiking 18.07.2006 01:32:01 I am trying to get an inexpensive version of MS Office 97 Pro. I am relatively familliar with Office, but I don't know much about the security. If I purchase a used disk (one in which the CD key has already been used to install Office), will I still be able to install it? Legally, I suspect sellers are obligated to uninstall the program, but will I be able to install it if it has been installed or registered before and/or if they fail to uninstall? I believe that product activation is relatively new, but it wouldn't suprise me to find that Windows Updates have included an activation requirement for older office suites. Any clarification would be appreciated, but please to post "You should just buy xxx" or "Ebay yyy" And for the love of God, don't mention OpenOffice.

Re: Office Used "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" <jl_paules[ at ]hotNOSPAMmail.com> 18.07.2006 02:12:54 Office 97 is a dead issue. And I'd *never* recommend anyone buy software thru eBay. Which Office programs will you need? -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "ZorroThePiking" <ZorroThePiking[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F817353B-0823-445D-9526-71A4CDEA3CC7[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] >I am trying to get an inexpensive version of MS Office 97 Pro. I am > relatively familliar with Office, but I don't know much about the > security. > If I purchase a used disk (one in which the CD key has already been used > to > install Office), will I still be able to install it? Legally, I suspect > sellers are obligated to uninstall the program, but will I be able to > install > it if it has been installed or registered before and/or if they fail to > uninstall? I believe that product activation is relatively new, but it > wouldn't suprise me to find that Windows Updates have included an > activation > requirement for older office suites. Any clarification would be > appreciated, > but please to post "You should just buy xxx" or "Ebay yyy" And for the > love > of God, don't mention OpenOffice.

Re: Office Used "Bob Buckland ?:-\)" <75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com> 18.07.2006 02:48:52 FWIW, Activation didn't start until MS Office 2000 (all versions outside of the US, 2000SR1 in the U.S.). ========= <<"ZorroThePiking" <ZorroThePiking[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F817353B-0823-445D-9526-71A4CDEA3CC7[ at ]microsoft.com... I am trying to get an inexpensive version of MS Office 97 Pro. I am relatively familliar with Office, but I don't know much about the security. If I purchase a used disk (one in which the CD key has already been used to install Office), will I still be able to install it? Legally, I suspect sellers are obligated to uninstall the program, but will I be able to install it if it has been installed or registered before and/or if they fail to uninstall? I believe that product activation is relatively new, but it wouldn't suprise me to find that Windows Updates have included an activation requirement for older office suites. Any clarification would be appreciated, but please to post "You should just buy xxx" or "Ebay yyy" And for the love of God, don't mention OpenOffice. >> -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Re: Office Used "Gordon" <gordon[ at ]gbpcomputing.co.uk.invalid> 18.07.2006 07:06:47 "ZorroThePiking" <ZorroThePiking[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F817353B-0823-445D-9526-71A4CDEA3CC7[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > And for the love of God, don't mention OpenOffice. Why on earth not? The current version of Open office is equivalent to MS Office 2002 and as such is FAR FAR superior to MS Office 97. Why on EARTH are you looking for Office 97 in the first place? -- Gordon Burgess-Parker Systems and Management Accounting www.gbpcomputing.co.uk

Re: Office Used ZorroThePiking 18.07.2006 10:40:02 I need Access 97 to be compatible with what we use at work. I need to be able to move mdb's back and forth. I own MS Office 2003, but it is the Standard Edition, not containing Access. "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Office 97 is a dead issue. And I'd *never* recommend anyone buy software > thru eBay. Which Office programs will you need? > > -- > > JoAnn Paules > MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > > > > > "ZorroThePiking" <ZorroThePiking[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:F817353B-0823-445D-9526-71A4CDEA3CC7[ at ]microsoft.com... > >I am trying to get an inexpensive version of MS Office 97 Pro. I am > > relatively familliar with Office, but I don't know much about the > > security. > > If I purchase a used disk (one in which the CD key has already been used > > to > > install Office), will I still be able to install it? Legally, I suspect > > sellers are obligated to uninstall the program, but will I be able to > > install > > it if it has been installed or registered before and/or if they fail to > > uninstall? I believe that product activation is relatively new, but it > > wouldn't suprise me to find that Windows Updates have included an > > activation > > requirement for older office suites. Any clarification would be > > appreciated, > > but please to post "You should just buy xxx" or "Ebay yyy" And for the > > love > > of God, don't mention OpenOffice. > > >

Re: Office Used ZorroThePiking 18.07.2006 10:52:01 I have had bad experiences with OpenOffice. Though the Word Processor seems capable enough, their datasheet program lacks some major functions (at least it did when I downloaded it last year), rendering many of my intended applications impossible. The worst, I've found, is their Access clone, Base. It lacks many of the functions and features of even Access 97. It was awkward, and difficult to control, not to mention that I had to reinstall the program because it had all of the create new xxx and wizard buttons greyed out, so I couldn't work on anything. It kept happening, and I often had to restart the program if those buttons were greyed out when I started it. Shutting down the program and reopening it seemed to fix it usually. The big kicker is the method for creating reports in OpenOffice. They don't offer a design view, basically forcing the user to pick a template, and allowing only column width changes! I couldn't get a running sum because I couldn't place controls. Getting the title I wanted at the top of the page required turning text to white because it often refused to let me delete things. If OpenOffice were just clumsier OR less stable, I'd consider it, but it's very clumy, prone to serious glitches, and 20% of what it must do is impossible. If it can't deliver, I need something else. I understand that this is the OO premier of DB software, but until it offers the functionality of Access, I'm going to need to stick with MS. Especially since I prefer Access 97, so I can go back and forth from work with minimal effort. So again, please don't mention OpenOffice. I spent a decent amount of time with it, and assure you that it does not meet my needs. Will I have problems installing used software??? "Gordon" wrote: [Quoted Text] > "ZorroThePiking" <ZorroThePiking[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:F817353B-0823-445D-9526-71A4CDEA3CC7[ at ]microsoft.com... > > And for the love of God, don't mention OpenOffice. > > Why on earth not? The current version of Open office is equivalent to MS > Office 2002 and as such is FAR FAR superior to MS Office 97. Why on EARTH > are you looking for Office 97 in the first place? > > -- > Gordon Burgess-Parker > Systems and Management Accounting > www.gbpcomputing.co.uk > > > >

Re: Office Used ZorroThePiking 18.07.2006 10:54:01 Does that mean I should have no problems installing the software, even if it has been installed before? And if the person failed to uninstall it? "Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote: [Quoted Text] > FWIW, Activation didn't start until MS Office 2000 (all versions outside of the US, 2000SR1 in the U.S.). > > ========= > <<"ZorroThePiking" <ZorroThePiking[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:F817353B-0823-445D-9526-71A4CDEA3CC7[ at ]microsoft.com... > I am trying to get an inexpensive version of MS Office 97 Pro. I am > relatively familliar with Office, but I don't know much about the security. > If I purchase a used disk (one in which the CD key has already been used to > install Office), will I still be able to install it? Legally, I suspect > sellers are obligated to uninstall the program, but will I be able to install > it if it has been installed or registered before and/or if they fail to > uninstall? I believe that product activation is relatively new, but it > wouldn't suprise me to find that Windows Updates have included an activation > requirement for older office suites. Any clarification would be appreciated, > but please to post "You should just buy xxx" or "Ebay yyy" And for the love > of God, don't mention OpenOffice. >> > -- > Bob Buckland ?:-) > MS Office System Products MVP > > *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* > > >

Re: Office Used "David R. Norton MVP Shell/User" <d_r_norton[ at ]yahoo.com> 19.07.2006 18:03:37 "ZorroThePiking" <ZorroThePiking[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F817353B-0823-445D-9526-71A4CDEA3CC7[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > If I purchase a used disk (one in which the CD key has already been used to > install Office), will I still be able to install it? Legally, I suspect > sellers are obligated to uninstall the program, but will I be able to install > it if it has been installed or registered before and/or if they fail to > uninstall? Yes.

Re: Office Used "Gyorgy Moldova [MVP]" <gmoldova[ at ]mvps.org> 23.07.2006 12:58:24 to be honest, yes, it should mean so "ZorroThePiking" <ZorroThePiking[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ACB5D563-EA88-4B27-B679-62A69CF81844[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Does that mean I should have no problems installing the software, even if > it > has been installed before? And if the person failed to uninstall it? > > "Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote: > >> FWIW, Activation didn't start until MS Office 2000 (all versions outside >> of the US, 2000SR1 in the U.S.). >> >> ========= >> <<"ZorroThePiking" <ZorroThePiking[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> message >> news:F817353B-0823-445D-9526-71A4CDEA3CC7[ at ]microsoft.com... >> I am trying to get an inexpensive version of MS Office 97 Pro. I am >> relatively familliar with Office, but I don't know much about the >> security. >> If I purchase a used disk (one in which the CD key has already been used >> to >> install Office), will I still be able to install it? Legally, I suspect >> sellers are obligated to uninstall the program, but will I be able to >> install >> it if it has been installed or registered before and/or if they fail to >> uninstall? I believe that product activation is relatively new, but it >> wouldn't suprise me to find that Windows Updates have included an >> activation >> requirement for older office suites. Any clarification would be >> appreciated, >> but please to post "You should just buy xxx" or "Ebay yyy" And for the >> love >> of God, don't mention OpenOffice. >> >> -- >> Bob Buckland ?:-) >> MS Office System Products MVP >> >> *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* >> >> >>