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I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed"
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JayKay a écrit :
[Quoted Text] > I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
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> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed"
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> ??
try again
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Me too and I tried it on 5 different computers in two languages and 3 OS'.
Frustrating
"Desvernois Anthony" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > JayKay a écrit :
> > I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
> >
> > All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed"
> >
> > ??
> try again
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Add my name to the list with this problem. I am having trouble doing any
type of troubleshooting when it doesn't get very far in the installation.
"Do you wish to proceed with the installation?" - (Yes or No button)
(Selected Yes) - "Extracting files, please wait..." (then) "The
installation of this package failed." -(OK button) (Selected OK) -
Installation ended.
Many attempts. No variation. Have Office XP Media Center edition. Have AV
(Norton), Firewall (Zone Alarm Professional), Antispyware (Windows Defender).
Everything was updated and easily exceed all resource requirements.
I would love to test this, but I guess I have to wait for help on how to
install it.
"RealPommy" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Me too and I tried it on 5 different computers in two languages and 3 OS'.
>
> Frustrating
>
> "Desvernois Anthony" wrote:
>
> > JayKay a écrit :
> > > I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
> > >
> > > All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed"
> > >
> > > ??
> > try again
> >
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"RealPommy" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Me too and I tried it on 5 different computers in two languages and 3 OS'.
>
> Frustrating
>
> "Desvernois Anthony" wrote:
>
> > JayKay a écrit :
> > > I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
> > >
> > > All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed"
> > >
> > > ??
> > try again
> >
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Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion group" -not very
helpful. I hope someone has the answer.
"JayKay" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
>
> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed"
>
> ??
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The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta states:
"Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical support."
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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
"Peteerwilliam" <Peteerwilliam[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4303C21F-3B81-4A69-9E9C-E82E04B2A459[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] >
> Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion group" -not
> very
> helpful. I hope someone has the answer.
> "JayKay" wrote:
>
>> I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
>>
>> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package
>> failed"
>>
>> ??
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Hi JayKay,
Are you using Windows XP Media Center Edition?
See if these steps help,
Assuming this is the first 2007 Office product you're installing, and you're installing on a version of Windows XP (which includes
Media Center)
===========
1. Use Start=>Programs=>Accessories=>Disk Cleanup
clear your Internet files and temp files.
2. Locate your 2007 Office Professional Beta 2
download file and note the folder/path location.
3. Create a new folder on your PC and note that
folder/path location.
4. Use Start=>Run , and on a single line type in
the following (using the path & file names from Step 2 & 3)
and leaving out the brackets
"drive:\Step2PathOfDownload\downloadfilename.exe" /extract:"Step3path"
example: (assuming you saved to a 'downloads' folder and created a new folder named Off2007ProB2CD1) the Start=>Run line would look
like this
"c:\downloads\OPPLUS-EN.EXE" /extract:"C:\Off2007ProB2CD1"
If the extraction is successful (you'll get a dialog box telling you it was after a few minutes) then
a. Backup your files and shutdown all other running apps and utilities including antivirus.
b. Run setup from your new 2007 Office system folder you
created in the previous steps
Else, if the extraction doesn't succeed then the download may be damaged/corrupted.
Use Start=>Run and type
%temp%
and locate the Setup-xxxxx.log
(file) just created and see if it has any clues on where the extraction failed.
Post back with the results please.
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<<"JayKay" <JayKay[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9A1828EC-DAAD-4410-AE93-20834B247B3A[ at ]microsoft.com...
I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed" >>
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I hope this helped you,
Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office system products MVP
>>*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<
LINKS for the 2007 Office System
1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie :)
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview
2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/
3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007
a. Install the ActiveX access control
http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net
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I tried cleaning up my computer by cleaning up my temp files, recycle bin...
This did not seem to work. I redownloaded the installation file and it
worked fine! I am in and reviewing the Beta software.
"AltNrg4U" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Add my name to the list with this problem. I am having trouble doing any
> type of troubleshooting when it doesn't get very far in the installation.
> "Do you wish to proceed with the installation?" - (Yes or No button)
> (Selected Yes) - "Extracting files, please wait..." (then) "The
> installation of this package failed." -(OK button) (Selected OK) -
> Installation ended.
>
> Many attempts. No variation. Have Office XP Media Center edition. Have AV
> (Norton), Firewall (Zone Alarm Professional), Antispyware (Windows Defender).
> Everything was updated and easily exceed all resource requirements.
>
> I would love to test this, but I guess I have to wait for help on how to
> install it.
>
>
>
>
> "RealPommy" wrote:
>
> > Me too and I tried it on 5 different computers in two languages and 3 OS'.
> >
> > Frustrating
> >
> > "Desvernois Anthony" wrote:
> >
> > > JayKay a écrit :
> > > > I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
> > > >
> > > > All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed"
> > > >
> > > > ??
> > > try again
> > >
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Some more info for you. Experiencing exactly the same thing here.
If i manually extract, it fails in the same way at the same point as the
execuatble launch.
If i burn the executable to CD and run, it installs fine.
After seeing this i dug out the old XPSP2.exe file to test the extraction,
and this failed half way though. To be safe i did the same process (from the
SP2 CD, not the HDD) and it extracted fine.
Unfortunately, the process of extraction doesn't seem to generate any error
log's in the %temp% dir, only setup error's.
p.s. I'm not using MCE, im on XP Home with a VIA VT8237R chipset and a SATA
HDD. I don't believe this problem existed (or atleast it wasn't reported)
with an IDE drive in the system, but i'm just about to ghost back to an IDE
drive to test this theory.
"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Hi JayKay, > > Are you using Windows XP Media Center Edition? > > See if these steps help, > > Assuming this is the first 2007 Office product you're installing, and you're installing on a version of Windows XP (which includes > Media Center) > > =========== > 1. Use Start=>Programs=>Accessories=>Disk Cleanup > clear your Internet files and temp files. > > 2. Locate your 2007 Office Professional Beta 2 > download file and note the folder/path location. > > 3. Create a new folder on your PC and note that > folder/path location. > > 4. Use Start=>Run , and on a single line type in > the following (using the path & file names from Step 2 & 3) > and leaving out the brackets > > "drive:\Step2PathOfDownload\downloadfilename.exe" /extract:"Step3path" > > example: (assuming you saved to a 'downloads' folder and created a new folder named Off2007ProB2CD1) the Start=>Run line would look > like this > > "c:\downloads\OPPLUS-EN.EXE" /extract:"C:\Off2007ProB2CD1" > > > If the extraction is successful (you'll get a dialog box telling you it was after a few minutes) then > > a. Backup your files and shutdown all other running apps and utilities including antivirus. > b. Run setup from your new 2007 Office system folder you > created in the previous steps > > Else, if the extraction doesn't succeed then the download may be damaged/corrupted. > Use Start=>Run and type > %temp% > and locate the Setup-xxxxx.log > (file) just created and see if it has any clues on where the extraction failed. > > Post back with the results please. > > ========= > <<"JayKay" <JayKay[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9A1828EC-DAAD-4410-AE93-20834B247B3A[ at ]microsoft.com... > I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE > > All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed" >> > -- > I hope this helped you, > > Bob Buckland ?:-) > MS Office system products MVP > > >>*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<< > > LINKS for the 2007 Office System > > 1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie :) > the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at > http://microsoft.com/office/preview> > 2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2? > Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures) > http://sas.office.microsoft.com/> > 3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007 > > a. Install the ActiveX access control > http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033> b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net> > > |
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And another update.....
We took all the components from the offending system to different make of
board (still VT8237R) and had exactly the same issue. We re-installed
again....had the same issue. We changed the CPU from an intel 6XX series to
a 5XX series and installed, now it all works fine. Put the 6XX series back
into the system installed with a 5XX CPU and it still works fine.
Hopefully that's a bit of 'food for thought' for you all...
"Dave Andrews" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Some more info for you. Experiencing exactly the same thing here. > > If i manually extract, it fails in the same way at the same point as the > execuatble launch. > > If i burn the executable to CD and run, it installs fine. > > After seeing this i dug out the old XPSP2.exe file to test the extraction, > and this failed half way though. To be safe i did the same process (from the > SP2 CD, not the HDD) and it extracted fine. > > Unfortunately, the process of extraction doesn't seem to generate any error > log's in the %temp% dir, only setup error's. > > p.s. I'm not using MCE, im on XP Home with a VIA VT8237R chipset and a SATA > HDD. I don't believe this problem existed (or atleast it wasn't reported) > with an IDE drive in the system, but i'm just about to ghost back to an IDE > drive to test this theory. > > "Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote: > > > Hi JayKay, > > > > Are you using Windows XP Media Center Edition? > > > > See if these steps help, > > > > Assuming this is the first 2007 Office product you're installing, and you're installing on a version of Windows XP (which includes > > Media Center) > > > > =========== > > 1. Use Start=>Programs=>Accessories=>Disk Cleanup > > clear your Internet files and temp files. > > > > 2. Locate your 2007 Office Professional Beta 2 > > download file and note the folder/path location. > > > > 3. Create a new folder on your PC and note that > > folder/path location. > > > > 4. Use Start=>Run , and on a single line type in > > the following (using the path & file names from Step 2 & 3) > > and leaving out the brackets > > > > "drive:\Step2PathOfDownload\downloadfilename.exe" /extract:"Step3path" > > > > example: (assuming you saved to a 'downloads' folder and created a new folder named Off2007ProB2CD1) the Start=>Run line would look > > like this > > > > "c:\downloads\OPPLUS-EN.EXE" /extract:"C:\Off2007ProB2CD1" > > > > > > If the extraction is successful (you'll get a dialog box telling you it was after a few minutes) then > > > > a. Backup your files and shutdown all other running apps and utilities including antivirus. > > b. Run setup from your new 2007 Office system folder you > > created in the previous steps > > > > Else, if the extraction doesn't succeed then the download may be damaged/corrupted. > > Use Start=>Run and type > > %temp% > > and locate the Setup-xxxxx.log > > (file) just created and see if it has any clues on where the extraction failed. > > > > Post back with the results please. > > > > ========= > > <<"JayKay" <JayKay[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9A1828EC-DAAD-4410-AE93-20834B247B3A[ at ]microsoft.com... > > I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE > > > > All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed" >> > > -- > > I hope this helped you, > > > > Bob Buckland ?:-) > > MS Office system products MVP > > > > >>*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<< > > > > LINKS for the 2007 Office System > > > > 1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie :) > > the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at > > http://microsoft.com/office/preview> > > > 2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2? > > Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures) > > http://sas.office.microsoft.com/> > > > 3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007 > > > > a. Install the ActiveX access control > > http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033> > b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net> > > > > > |
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JoAnn, I believe we all know there is no actual tech support for beta
software, but dont you think it would be prudent to at least offer a little
asistance rather than a put down to those trying to help find the bugs? I am
having the exact same problem and I am using the beta 2 version of Vista. I
am a 30 year "veteran" working with computers & I could sure use a little
help figuring this one out.
--
If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in English,
thank a Soldier.
"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta states: > "Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical support." > > -- > > JoAnn Paules > MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > > > > "Peteerwilliam" <Peteerwilliam[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:4303C21F-3B81-4A69-9E9C-E82E04B2A459[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > > Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion group" -not > > very > > helpful. I hope someone has the answer. > > "JayKay" wrote: > > > >> I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE > >> > >> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package > >> failed" > >> > >> ?? > > > |
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My point was that everyone is forewarned that they are on their own if they
opt to run the beta. If someone in the MS newsgroups can help, great. But
there's no guarantee that anyone can provide any advice.
--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
(BTW - I have thanked my teachers and I did better than thank a soldier, I
*was* one.)
"John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:81D91384-7172-4810-B4A8-BF4487D51990[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > JoAnn, I believe we all know there is no actual tech support for beta > software, but dont you think it would be prudent to at least offer a > little > asistance rather than a put down to those trying to help find the bugs? I > am > having the exact same problem and I am using the beta 2 version of Vista. > I > am a 30 year "veteran" working with computers & I could sure use a little > help figuring this one out. > -- > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in > English, > thank a Soldier. > > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: > >> The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta states: >> "Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical support." >> >> -- >> >> JoAnn Paules >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] >> >> >> >> "Peteerwilliam" <Peteerwilliam[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> message >> news:4303C21F-3B81-4A69-9E9C-E82E04B2A459[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > >> > Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion group" -not >> > very >> > helpful. I hope someone has the answer. >> > "JayKay" wrote: >> > >> >> I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE >> >> >> >> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package >> >> failed" >> >> >> >> ?? >> >> >>
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And my point is that as a representative of Microsoft, you need to remember
that you catch a lot more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. That
kind of condecending remark will help no one. I saw another one of your
"like responses in another thread and the two together tells me you are in
serious need on an attitude adjustment. May I suggest several quarts of Jack
Daniels and an evening with your favorite "significant other"? I think
theres been enough said at this point.
--
If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in English,
thank a Soldier.
"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > My point was that everyone is forewarned that they are on their own if they > opt to run the beta. If someone in the MS newsgroups can help, great. But > there's no guarantee that anyone can provide any advice. > -- > > JoAnn Paules > MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > > (BTW - I have thanked my teachers and I did better than thank a soldier, I > *was* one.) > > > "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:81D91384-7172-4810-B4A8-BF4487D51990[ at ]microsoft.com... > > JoAnn, I believe we all know there is no actual tech support for beta > > software, but dont you think it would be prudent to at least offer a > > little > > asistance rather than a put down to those trying to help find the bugs? I > > am > > having the exact same problem and I am using the beta 2 version of Vista. > > I > > am a 30 year "veteran" working with computers & I could sure use a little > > help figuring this one out. > > -- > > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in > > English, > > thank a Soldier. > > > > > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: > > > >> The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta states: > >> "Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical support." > >> > >> -- > >> > >> JoAnn Paules > >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > >> > >> > >> > >> "Peteerwilliam" <Peteerwilliam[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> message > >> news:4303C21F-3B81-4A69-9E9C-E82E04B2A459[ at ]microsoft.com... > >> > > >> > Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion group" -not > >> > very > >> > helpful. I hope someone has the answer. > >> > "JayKay" wrote: > >> > > >> >> I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE > >> >> > >> >> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package > >> >> failed" > >> >> > >> >> ?? > >> > >> > >> > > > |
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My husband doesn't drink at all and I have maybe two or three cordials a
year.
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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
"John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:35282E4D-9256-43F5-96BD-3F37D3F5C5D7[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > And my point is that as a representative of Microsoft, you need to > remember > that you catch a lot more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. That > kind of condecending remark will help no one. I saw another one of your > "like responses in another thread and the two together tells me you are in > serious need on an attitude adjustment. May I suggest several quarts of > Jack > Daniels and an evening with your favorite "significant other"? I think > theres been enough said at this point. > -- > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in > English, > thank a Soldier. > > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: > >> My point was that everyone is forewarned that they are on their own if >> they >> opt to run the beta. If someone in the MS newsgroups can help, great. But >> there's no guarantee that anyone can provide any advice. >> -- >> >> JoAnn Paules >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] >> >> (BTW - I have thanked my teachers and I did better than thank a soldier, >> I >> *was* one.) >> >> >> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:81D91384-7172-4810-B4A8-BF4487D51990[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > JoAnn, I believe we all know there is no actual tech support for beta >> > software, but dont you think it would be prudent to at least offer a >> > little >> > asistance rather than a put down to those trying to help find the bugs? >> > I >> > am >> > having the exact same problem and I am using the beta 2 version of >> > Vista. >> > I >> > am a 30 year "veteran" working with computers & I could sure use a >> > little >> > help figuring this one out. >> > -- >> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in >> > English, >> > thank a Soldier. >> > >> > >> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: >> > >> >> The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta states: >> >> "Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical >> >> support." >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> JoAnn Paules >> >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Peteerwilliam" <Peteerwilliam[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> message >> >> news:4303C21F-3B81-4A69-9E9C-E82E04B2A459[ at ]microsoft.com... >> >> > >> >> > Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion >> >> > group" -not >> >> > very >> >> > helpful. I hope someone has the answer. >> >> > "JayKay" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE >> >> >> >> >> >> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package >> >> >> failed" >> >> >> >> >> >> ?? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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As I said before, (put the way its said in the South where real people live)
Nuff Said! If you wanted to be any help, you would have already done so.
--
If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in English,
thank a Soldier.
"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > My husband doesn't drink at all and I have maybe two or three cordials a > year. > > -- > > JoAnn Paules > MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > > > > "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:35282E4D-9256-43F5-96BD-3F37D3F5C5D7[ at ]microsoft.com... > > And my point is that as a representative of Microsoft, you need to > > remember > > that you catch a lot more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. That > > kind of condecending remark will help no one. I saw another one of your > > "like responses in another thread and the two together tells me you are in > > serious need on an attitude adjustment. May I suggest several quarts of > > Jack > > Daniels and an evening with your favorite "significant other"? I think > > theres been enough said at this point. > > -- > > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in > > English, > > thank a Soldier. > > > > > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: > > > >> My point was that everyone is forewarned that they are on their own if > >> they > >> opt to run the beta. If someone in the MS newsgroups can help, great. But > >> there's no guarantee that anyone can provide any advice. > >> -- > >> > >> JoAnn Paules > >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > >> > >> (BTW - I have thanked my teachers and I did better than thank a soldier, > >> I > >> *was* one.) > >> > >> > >> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:81D91384-7172-4810-B4A8-BF4487D51990[ at ]microsoft.com... > >> > JoAnn, I believe we all know there is no actual tech support for beta > >> > software, but dont you think it would be prudent to at least offer a > >> > little > >> > asistance rather than a put down to those trying to help find the bugs? > >> > I > >> > am > >> > having the exact same problem and I am using the beta 2 version of > >> > Vista. > >> > I > >> > am a 30 year "veteran" working with computers & I could sure use a > >> > little > >> > help figuring this one out. > >> > -- > >> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in > >> > English, > >> > thank a Soldier. > >> > > >> > > >> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: > >> > > >> >> The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta states: > >> >> "Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical > >> >> support." > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> > >> >> JoAnn Paules > >> >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Peteerwilliam" <Peteerwilliam[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> >> message > >> >> news:4303C21F-3B81-4A69-9E9C-E82E04B2A459[ at ]microsoft.com... > >> >> > > >> >> > Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion > >> >> > group" -not > >> >> > very > >> >> > helpful. I hope someone has the answer. > >> >> > "JayKay" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE > >> >> >> > >> >> >> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package > >> >> >> failed" > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ?? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > |
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I live where people read the warnings before downloading beta software on
their production system.
--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
"John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A60AC154-9F98-476B-A965-AF1A922D2B92[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > As I said before, (put the way its said in the South where real people > live) > Nuff Said! If you wanted to be any help, you would have already done so. > -- > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in > English, > thank a Soldier. > > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: > >> My husband doesn't drink at all and I have maybe two or three cordials a >> year. >> >> -- >> >> JoAnn Paules >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] >> >> >> >> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:35282E4D-9256-43F5-96BD-3F37D3F5C5D7[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > And my point is that as a representative of Microsoft, you need to >> > remember >> > that you catch a lot more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. >> > That >> > kind of condecending remark will help no one. I saw another one of >> > your >> > "like responses in another thread and the two together tells me you are >> > in >> > serious need on an attitude adjustment. May I suggest several quarts >> > of >> > Jack >> > Daniels and an evening with your favorite "significant other"? I think >> > theres been enough said at this point. >> > -- >> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in >> > English, >> > thank a Soldier. >> > >> > >> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: >> > >> >> My point was that everyone is forewarned that they are on their own if >> >> they >> >> opt to run the beta. If someone in the MS newsgroups can help, great. >> >> But >> >> there's no guarantee that anyone can provide any advice. >> >> -- >> >> >> >> JoAnn Paules >> >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] >> >> >> >> (BTW - I have thanked my teachers and I did better than thank a >> >> soldier, >> >> I >> >> *was* one.) >> >> >> >> >> >> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:81D91384-7172-4810-B4A8-BF4487D51990[ at ]microsoft.com... >> >> > JoAnn, I believe we all know there is no actual tech support for >> >> > beta >> >> > software, but dont you think it would be prudent to at least offer a >> >> > little >> >> > asistance rather than a put down to those trying to help find the >> >> > bugs? >> >> > I >> >> > am >> >> > having the exact same problem and I am using the beta 2 version of >> >> > Vista. >> >> > I >> >> > am a 30 year "veteran" working with computers & I could sure use a >> >> > little >> >> > help figuring this one out. >> >> > -- >> >> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in >> >> > English, >> >> > thank a Soldier. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta states: >> >> >> "Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical >> >> >> support." >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> JoAnn Paules >> >> >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Peteerwilliam" <Peteerwilliam[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> >> message >> >> >> news:4303C21F-3B81-4A69-9E9C-E82E04B2A459[ at ]microsoft.com... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion >> >> >> > group" -not >> >> >> > very >> >> >> > helpful. I hope someone has the answer. >> >> >> > "JayKay" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> All I get from the application is "The installation of this >> >> >> >> package >> >> >> >> failed" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ?? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
|
|
No comment. I choose to give you the consideration you deserve, I will never
responde to one of your posts to me again. You are not worth the effort.
--
If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in English,
thank a Soldier.
"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I live where people read the warnings before downloading beta software on > their production system. > > -- > > JoAnn Paules > MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > > > > "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:A60AC154-9F98-476B-A965-AF1A922D2B92[ at ]microsoft.com... > > As I said before, (put the way its said in the South where real people > > live) > > Nuff Said! If you wanted to be any help, you would have already done so. > > -- > > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in > > English, > > thank a Soldier. > > > > > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: > > > >> My husband doesn't drink at all and I have maybe two or three cordials a > >> year. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> JoAnn Paules > >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > >> > >> > >> > >> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:35282E4D-9256-43F5-96BD-3F37D3F5C5D7[ at ]microsoft.com... > >> > And my point is that as a representative of Microsoft, you need to > >> > remember > >> > that you catch a lot more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. > >> > That > >> > kind of condecending remark will help no one. I saw another one of > >> > your > >> > "like responses in another thread and the two together tells me you are > >> > in > >> > serious need on an attitude adjustment. May I suggest several quarts > >> > of > >> > Jack > >> > Daniels and an evening with your favorite "significant other"? I think > >> > theres been enough said at this point. > >> > -- > >> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in > >> > English, > >> > thank a Soldier. > >> > > >> > > >> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: > >> > > >> >> My point was that everyone is forewarned that they are on their own if > >> >> they > >> >> opt to run the beta. If someone in the MS newsgroups can help, great. > >> >> But > >> >> there's no guarantee that anyone can provide any advice. > >> >> -- > >> >> > >> >> JoAnn Paules > >> >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > >> >> > >> >> (BTW - I have thanked my teachers and I did better than thank a > >> >> soldier, > >> >> I > >> >> *was* one.) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:81D91384-7172-4810-B4A8-BF4487D51990[ at ]microsoft.com... > >> >> > JoAnn, I believe we all know there is no actual tech support for > >> >> > beta > >> >> > software, but dont you think it would be prudent to at least offer a > >> >> > little > >> >> > asistance rather than a put down to those trying to help find the > >> >> > bugs? > >> >> > I > >> >> > am > >> >> > having the exact same problem and I am using the beta 2 version of > >> >> > Vista. > >> >> > I > >> >> > am a 30 year "veteran" working with computers & I could sure use a > >> >> > little > >> >> > help figuring this one out. > >> >> > -- > >> >> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in > >> >> > English, > >> >> > thank a Soldier. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta states: > >> >> >> "Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical > >> >> >> support." > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> > >> >> >> JoAnn Paules > >> >> >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "Peteerwilliam" <Peteerwilliam[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> >> >> message > >> >> >> news:4303C21F-3B81-4A69-9E9C-E82E04B2A459[ at ]microsoft.com... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion > >> >> >> > group" -not > >> >> >> > very > >> >> >> > helpful. I hope someone has the answer. > >> >> >> > "JayKay" wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> All I get from the application is "The installation of this > >> >> >> >> package > >> >> >> >> failed" > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> ?? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > |
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My job is complete.
--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
"John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:29758139-0561-4892-A328-951099F35B5B[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > No comment. I choose to give you the consideration you deserve, I will > never > responde to one of your posts to me again. You are not worth the effort. > -- > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in > English, > thank a Soldier. > > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: > >> I live where people read the warnings before downloading beta software on >> their production system. >> >> -- >> >> JoAnn Paules >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] >> >> >> >> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:A60AC154-9F98-476B-A965-AF1A922D2B92[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > As I said before, (put the way its said in the South where real people >> > live) >> > Nuff Said! If you wanted to be any help, you would have already done >> > so. >> > -- >> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in >> > English, >> > thank a Soldier. >> > >> > >> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: >> > >> >> My husband doesn't drink at all and I have maybe two or three cordials >> >> a >> >> year. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> JoAnn Paules >> >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:35282E4D-9256-43F5-96BD-3F37D3F5C5D7[ at ]microsoft.com... >> >> > And my point is that as a representative of Microsoft, you need to >> >> > remember >> >> > that you catch a lot more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. >> >> > That >> >> > kind of condecending remark will help no one. I saw another one of >> >> > your >> >> > "like responses in another thread and the two together tells me you >> >> > are >> >> > in >> >> > serious need on an attitude adjustment. May I suggest several >> >> > quarts >> >> > of >> >> > Jack >> >> > Daniels and an evening with your favorite "significant other"? I >> >> > think >> >> > theres been enough said at this point. >> >> > -- >> >> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in >> >> > English, >> >> > thank a Soldier. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> My point was that everyone is forewarned that they are on their own >> >> >> if >> >> >> they >> >> >> opt to run the beta. If someone in the MS newsgroups can help, >> >> >> great. >> >> >> But >> >> >> there's no guarantee that anyone can provide any advice. >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> JoAnn Paules >> >> >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] >> >> >> >> >> >> (BTW - I have thanked my teachers and I did better than thank a >> >> >> soldier, >> >> >> I >> >> >> *was* one.) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:81D91384-7172-4810-B4A8-BF4487D51990[ at ]microsoft.com... >> >> >> > JoAnn, I believe we all know there is no actual tech support for >> >> >> > beta >> >> >> > software, but dont you think it would be prudent to at least >> >> >> > offer a >> >> >> > little >> >> >> > asistance rather than a put down to those trying to help find the >> >> >> > bugs? >> >> >> > I >> >> >> > am >> >> >> > having the exact same problem and I am using the beta 2 version >> >> >> > of >> >> >> > Vista. >> >> >> > I >> >> >> > am a 30 year "veteran" working with computers & I could sure use >> >> >> > a >> >> >> > little >> >> >> > help figuring this one out. >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it >> >> >> > in >> >> >> > English, >> >> >> > thank a Soldier. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta >> >> >> >> states: >> >> >> >> "Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical >> >> >> >> support." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> JoAnn Paules >> >> >> >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Peteerwilliam" <Peteerwilliam[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> message >> >> >> >> news:4303C21F-3B81-4A69-9E9C-E82E04B2A459[ at ]microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion >> >> >> >> > group" -not >> >> >> >> > very >> >> >> >> > helpful. I hope someone has the answer. >> >> >> >> > "JayKay" wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> All I get from the application is "The installation of this >> >> >> >> >> package >> >> >> >> >> failed" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ?? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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|
Let it be known that if you post something that JoAnn Paules [MVP] dosent
like, you will be berated & belittled because you did not do things the way
she thinks is the "only" way. This is no way for a supposed Microsoft
representative to behave. Uncle Bill should be told about this woman. After
all he signs her paycheck.
--
If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in English,
thank a Soldier.
"JayKay" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
>
> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed"
>
> ??
|
|
Microsoft MVPs are not employees of the company; indeed, they must give up
their MVP designation if they accept employment with Microsoft.
As such, we do NOT represent Microsoft, their views, or the fitness of their
software for specific purposes.
Read the archives of this group and others if you have any questions.
Microsoft lackeys we are not - and you would find many MVPs who will give
them "what for" when they mess up, which they do, on many occasions, me
among them.
However, user stupidity, lack of thoughtfulness, inability to understand
"beta" or any other user error also gets the same treatment.
Caveat Emptor - would that be a better label for Beta software? Except,
folks think they are getting a free Microsoft Office suite to use for a few
months and can't resist the temptation, DON'T read the warnings, and install
it thinking that it will work perfectly and can be uninstalled as the
"normal" program can.
Tell me, how is anyone going to bang this into anyone's head when Google
mail, toolbar, etc. have been in perpetual beta and lull people into
thinking that beta software works perfectly for their production
environments.
If you want to blame anyone, blame the perpetual Google betas for diluting
the meaning of "beta."
--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.
After furious head scratching, John S. asked:
| Let it be known that if you post something that JoAnn Paules [MVP]
| dosent like, you will be berated & belittled because you did not do
| things the way she thinks is the "only" way. This is no way for a
| supposed Microsoft representative to behave. Uncle Bill should be
| told about this woman. After all he signs her paycheck.
|
|| I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
||
|| All I get from the application is "The installation of this package
|| failed"
||
|| ??
|
|
And there are several MVPs who are not very happy that everyone and his dog
is downloading the beta without taking the warnings seriously.
--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
"Milly Staples - MVP Outlook" <millys[ at ]donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org>
wrote in message news:u9K8km1kGHA.4200[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Microsoft MVPs are not employees of the company; indeed, they must give up
> their MVP designation if they accept employment with Microsoft.
>
> As such, we do NOT represent Microsoft, their views, or the fitness of
> their
> software for specific purposes.
>
> Read the archives of this group and others if you have any questions.
>
> Microsoft lackeys we are not - and you would find many MVPs who will give
> them "what for" when they mess up, which they do, on many occasions, me
> among them.
>
> However, user stupidity, lack of thoughtfulness, inability to understand
> "beta" or any other user error also gets the same treatment.
>
> Caveat Emptor - would that be a better label for Beta software? Except,
> folks think they are getting a free Microsoft Office suite to use for a
> few
> months and can't resist the temptation, DON'T read the warnings, and
> install
> it thinking that it will work perfectly and can be uninstalled as the
> "normal" program can.
>
> Tell me, how is anyone going to bang this into anyone's head when Google
> mail, toolbar, etc. have been in perpetual beta and lull people into
> thinking that beta software works perfectly for their production
> environments.
>
> If you want to blame anyone, blame the perpetual Google betas for diluting
> the meaning of "beta."
>
> --
> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>
> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
> reading.
>
> After furious head scratching, John S. asked:
>
> | Let it be known that if you post something that JoAnn Paules [MVP]
> | dosent like, you will be berated & belittled because you did not do
> | things the way she thinks is the "only" way. This is no way for a
> | supposed Microsoft representative to behave. Uncle Bill should be
> | told about this woman. After all he signs her paycheck.
> |
> || I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
> ||
> || All I get from the application is "The installation of this package
> || failed"
> ||
> || ??
>
>
|
|
And are more than happy to shoot the user AND the dog when they do and run
into problems.
--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.
After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:
| And there are several MVPs who are not very happy that everyone and
| his dog is downloading the beta without taking the warnings seriously.
|
|
| "Milly Staples - MVP Outlook"
| <millys[ at ]donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org> wrote in message
| news:u9K8km1kGHA.4200[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| Microsoft MVPs are not employees of the company; indeed, they must
|| give up their MVP designation if they accept employment with
|| Microsoft.
||
|| As such, we do NOT represent Microsoft, their views, or the fitness
|| of their
|| software for specific purposes.
||
|| Read the archives of this group and others if you have any questions.
||
|| Microsoft lackeys we are not - and you would find many MVPs who will
|| give them "what for" when they mess up, which they do, on many
|| occasions, me among them.
||
|| However, user stupidity, lack of thoughtfulness, inability to
|| understand "beta" or any other user error also gets the same
|| treatment.
||
|| Caveat Emptor - would that be a better label for Beta software?
|| Except, folks think they are getting a free Microsoft Office suite
|| to use for a few
|| months and can't resist the temptation, DON'T read the warnings, and
|| install
|| it thinking that it will work perfectly and can be uninstalled as the
|| "normal" program can.
||
|| Tell me, how is anyone going to bang this into anyone's head when
|| Google mail, toolbar, etc. have been in perpetual beta and lull
|| people into thinking that beta software works perfectly for their
|| production environments.
||
|| If you want to blame anyone, blame the perpetual Google betas for
|| diluting the meaning of "beta."
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, John S. asked:
||
||| Let it be known that if you post something that JoAnn Paules [MVP]
||| dosent like, you will be berated & belittled because you did not do
||| things the way she thinks is the "only" way. This is no way for a
||| supposed Microsoft representative to behave. Uncle Bill should be
||| told about this woman. After all he signs her paycheck.
|||
|||| I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
||||
|||| All I get from the application is "The installation of this package
|||| failed"
||||
|||| ??
|
|
Whoo hoo! Calamity Jane lives!
--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
"Milly Staples - MVP Outlook" <millys[ at ]donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org>
wrote in message news:eimhoK8kGHA.3816[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > And are more than happy to shoot the user AND the dog when they do and run
> into problems.
>
> --
> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>
> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
> reading.
>
> After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:
>
> | And there are several MVPs who are not very happy that everyone and
> | his dog is downloading the beta without taking the warnings seriously.
> |
> |
> | "Milly Staples - MVP Outlook"
> | <millys[ at ]donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org> wrote in message
> | news:u9K8km1kGHA.4200[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> || Microsoft MVPs are not employees of the company; indeed, they must
> || give up their MVP designation if they accept employment with
> || Microsoft.
> ||
> || As such, we do NOT represent Microsoft, their views, or the fitness
> || of their
> || software for specific purposes.
> ||
> || Read the archives of this group and others if you have any questions.
> ||
> || Microsoft lackeys we are not - and you would find many MVPs who will
> || give them "what for" when they mess up, which they do, on many
> || occasions, me among them.
> ||
> || However, user stupidity, lack of thoughtfulness, inability to
> || understand "beta" or any other user error also gets the same
> || treatment.
> ||
> || Caveat Emptor - would that be a better label for Beta software?
> || Except, folks think they are getting a free Microsoft Office suite
> || to use for a few
> || months and can't resist the temptation, DON'T read the warnings, and
> || install
> || it thinking that it will work perfectly and can be uninstalled as the
> || "normal" program can.
> ||
> || Tell me, how is anyone going to bang this into anyone's head when
> || Google mail, toolbar, etc. have been in perpetual beta and lull
> || people into thinking that beta software works perfectly for their
> || production environments.
> ||
> || If you want to blame anyone, blame the perpetual Google betas for
> || diluting the meaning of "beta."
> ||
> || --
> || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
> ||
> || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> || unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
> || reading.
> ||
> || After furious head scratching, John S. asked:
> ||
> ||| Let it be known that if you post something that JoAnn Paules [MVP]
> ||| dosent like, you will be berated & belittled because you did not do
> ||| things the way she thinks is the "only" way. This is no way for a
> ||| supposed Microsoft representative to behave. Uncle Bill should be
> ||| told about this woman. After all he signs her paycheck.
> |||
> |||| I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
> ||||
> |||| All I get from the application is "The installation of this package
> |||| failed"
> ||||
> |||| ??
>
>
|
|
If you knew me better, you would realize that I NEVER suffer fools.
Calamity Jane? More like Alien.
--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.
After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:
| Whoo hoo! Calamity Jane lives!
|
|
| "Milly Staples - MVP Outlook"
| <millys[ at ]donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org> wrote in message
| news:eimhoK8kGHA.3816[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|| And are more than happy to shoot the user AND the dog when they do
|| and run into problems.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:
||
||| And there are several MVPs who are not very happy that everyone and
||| his dog is downloading the beta without taking the warnings
||| seriously.
|||
|||
||| "Milly Staples - MVP Outlook"
||| <millys[ at ]donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org> wrote in message
||| news:u9K8km1kGHA.4200[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|||| Microsoft MVPs are not employees of the company; indeed, they must
|||| give up their MVP designation if they accept employment with
|||| Microsoft.
||||
|||| As such, we do NOT represent Microsoft, their views, or the fitness
|||| of their
|||| software for specific purposes.
||||
|||| Read the archives of this group and others if you have any
|||| questions.
||||
|||| Microsoft lackeys we are not - and you would find many MVPs who
|||| will give them "what for" when they mess up, which they do, on many
|||| occasions, me among them.
||||
|||| However, user stupidity, lack of thoughtfulness, inability to
|||| understand "beta" or any other user error also gets the same
|||| treatment.
||||
|||| Caveat Emptor - would that be a better label for Beta software?
|||| Except, folks think they are getting a free Microsoft Office suite
|||| to use for a few
|||| months and can't resist the temptation, DON'T read the warnings,
|||| and install
|||| it thinking that it will work perfectly and can be uninstalled as
|||| the "normal" program can.
||||
|||| Tell me, how is anyone going to bang this into anyone's head when
|||| Google mail, toolbar, etc. have been in perpetual beta and lull
|||| people into thinking that beta software works perfectly for their
|||| production environments.
||||
|||| If you want to blame anyone, blame the perpetual Google betas for
|||| diluting the meaning of "beta."
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, John S. asked:
||||
||||| Let it be known that if you post something that JoAnn Paules
||||| [MVP] dosent like, you will be berated & belittled because you
||||| did not do things the way she thinks is the "only" way. This is
||||| no way for a supposed Microsoft representative to behave. Uncle
||||| Bill should be told about this woman. After all he signs her
||||| paycheck.
|||||
|||||| I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
||||||
|||||| All I get from the application is "The installation of this
|||||| package failed"
||||||
|||||| ??
|
|
Thank you for clarifing. That lets everyone in the world know that MVP in no
way means anything close to a person to ask for any kind of constructive help
or advice. I shall make a note and never bother even thinking an MVP is
around these newsgroups for any other purpose than self gratification.
--
If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in English,
thank a Soldier.
"Milly Staples - MVP Outlook" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > If you knew me better, you would realize that I NEVER suffer fools.
> Calamity Jane? More like Alien.
>
> --
> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>
> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
> reading.
>
> After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:
>
> | Whoo hoo! Calamity Jane lives!
> |
> |
> | "Milly Staples - MVP Outlook"
> | <millys[ at ]donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org> wrote in message
> | news:eimhoK8kGHA.3816[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> || And are more than happy to shoot the user AND the dog when they do
> || and run into problems.
> ||
> || --
> || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
> ||
> || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> || unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
> || reading.
> ||
> || After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:
> ||
> ||| And there are several MVPs who are not very happy that everyone and
> ||| his dog is downloading the beta without taking the warnings
> ||| seriously.
> |||
> |||
> ||| "Milly Staples - MVP Outlook"
> ||| <millys[ at ]donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org> wrote in message
> ||| news:u9K8km1kGHA.4200[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> |||| Microsoft MVPs are not employees of the company; indeed, they must
> |||| give up their MVP designation if they accept employment with
> |||| Microsoft.
> ||||
> |||| As such, we do NOT represent Microsoft, their views, or the fitness
> |||| of their
> |||| software for specific purposes.
> ||||
> |||| Read the archives of this group and others if you have any
> |||| questions.
> ||||
> |||| Microsoft lackeys we are not - and you would find many MVPs who
> |||| will give them "what for" when they mess up, which they do, on many
> |||| occasions, me among them.
> ||||
> |||| However, user stupidity, lack of thoughtfulness, inability to
> |||| understand "beta" or any other user error also gets the same
> |||| treatment.
> ||||
> |||| Caveat Emptor - would that be a better label for Beta software?
> |||| Except, folks think they are getting a free Microsoft Office suite
> |||| to use for a few
> |||| months and can't resist the temptation, DON'T read the warnings,
> |||| and install
> |||| it thinking that it will work perfectly and can be uninstalled as
> |||| the "normal" program can.
> ||||
> |||| Tell me, how is anyone going to bang this into anyone's head when
> |||| Google mail, toolbar, etc. have been in perpetual beta and lull
> |||| people into thinking that beta software works perfectly for their
> |||| production environments.
> ||||
> |||| If you want to blame anyone, blame the perpetual Google betas for
> |||| diluting the meaning of "beta."
> ||||
> |||| --
> |||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
> ||||
> |||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> |||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
> |||| without reading.
> ||||
> |||| After furious head scratching, John S. asked:
> ||||
> ||||| Let it be known that if you post something that JoAnn Paules
> ||||| [MVP] dosent like, you will be berated & belittled because you
> ||||| did not do things the way she thinks is the "only" way. This is
> ||||| no way for a supposed Microsoft representative to behave. Uncle
> ||||| Bill should be told about this woman. After all he signs her
> ||||| paycheck.
> |||||
> |||||| I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
> ||||||
> |||||| All I get from the application is "The installation of this
> |||||| package failed"
> ||||||
> |||||| ??
>
>
>
|
|
As I said, I do not suffer fools. People who install beta software and
expect the same level of performance and stability as a released product are
fools.
And I make no apologies.
Ask for assistance on any other Outlook problem, I am happy to help.
--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.
After furious head scratching, John S. asked:
| Thank you for clarifing. That lets everyone in the world know that
| MVP in no way means anything close to a person to ask for any kind of
| constructive help or advice. I shall make a note and never bother
| even thinking an MVP is around these newsgroups for any other purpose
| than self gratification.
|
|| If you knew me better, you would realize that I NEVER suffer fools.
|| Calamity Jane? More like Alien.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:
||
||| Whoo hoo! Calamity Jane lives!
|||
|||
||| "Milly Staples - MVP Outlook"
||| <millys[ at ]donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org> wrote in message
||| news:eimhoK8kGHA.3816[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|||| And are more than happy to shoot the user AND the dog when they do
|||| and run into problems.
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:
||||
||||| And there are several MVPs who are not very happy that everyone
||||| and his dog is downloading the beta without taking the warnings
||||| seriously.
|||||
|||||
||||| "Milly Staples - MVP Outlook"
||||| <millys[ at ]donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org> wrote in message
||||| news:u9K8km1kGHA.4200[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|||||| Microsoft MVPs are not employees of the company; indeed, they
|||||| must give up their MVP designation if they accept employment with
|||||| Microsoft.
||||||
|||||| As such, we do NOT represent Microsoft, their views, or the
|||||| fitness of their
|||||| software for specific purposes.
||||||
|||||| Read the archives of this group and others if you have any
|||||| questions.
||||||
|||||| Microsoft lackeys we are not - and you would find many MVPs who
|||||| will give them "what for" when they mess up, which they do, on
|||||| many occasions, me among them.
||||||
|||||| However, user stupidity, lack of thoughtfulness, inability to
|||||| understand "beta" or any other user error also gets the same
|||||| treatment.
||||||
|||||| Caveat Emptor - would that be a better label for Beta software?
|||||| Except, folks think they are getting a free Microsoft Office
|||||| suite to use for a few
|||||| months and can't resist the temptation, DON'T read the warnings,
|||||| and install
|||||| it thinking that it will work perfectly and can be uninstalled as
|||||| the "normal" program can.
||||||
|||||| Tell me, how is anyone going to bang this into anyone's head
|||||| when Google mail, toolbar, etc. have been in perpetual beta and
|||||| lull people into thinking that beta software works perfectly for
|||||| their production environments.
||||||
|||||| If you want to blame anyone, blame the perpetual Google betas for
|||||| diluting the meaning of "beta."
||||||
|||||| --
|||||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||||
|||||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||||| without reading.
||||||
|||||| After furious head scratching, John S. asked:
||||||
||||||| Let it be known that if you post something that JoAnn Paules
||||||| [MVP] dosent like, you will be berated & belittled because you
||||||| did not do things the way she thinks is the "only" way. This is
||||||| no way for a supposed Microsoft representative to behave. Uncle
||||||| Bill should be told about this woman. After all he signs her
||||||| paycheck.
|||||||
|||||||| I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
||||||||
|||||||| All I get from the application is "The installation of this
|||||||| package failed"
||||||||
|||||||| ??
|
|
I thought he said he was done posting?
--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
"John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A712950F-AC69-47F1-A010-2E32877F2BC8[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Thank you for clarifing. That lets everyone in the world know that MVP in
> no
> way means anything close to a person to ask for any kind of constructive
> help
> or advice. I shall make a note and never bother even thinking an MVP is
> around these newsgroups for any other purpose than self gratification.
> --
> If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in
> English,
> thank a Soldier.
>
>
> "Milly Staples - MVP Outlook" wrote:
>
>> If you knew me better, you would realize that I NEVER suffer fools.
>> Calamity Jane? More like Alien.
>>
>> --
>> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>>
>> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
>> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
>> reading.
>>
>> After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:
>>
>> | Whoo hoo! Calamity Jane lives!
>> |
>> |
>> | "Milly Staples - MVP Outlook"
>> | <millys[ at ]donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org> wrote in message
>> | news:eimhoK8kGHA.3816[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> || And are more than happy to shoot the user AND the dog when they do
>> || and run into problems.
>> ||
>> || --
>> || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>> ||
>> || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
>> || unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
>> || reading.
>> ||
>> || After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:
>> ||
>> ||| And there are several MVPs who are not very happy that everyone and
>> ||| his dog is downloading the beta without taking the warnings
>> ||| seriously.
>> |||
>> |||
>> ||| "Milly Staples - MVP Outlook"
>> ||| <millys[ at ]donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org> wrote in message
>> ||| news:u9K8km1kGHA.4200[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> |||| Microsoft MVPs are not employees of the company; indeed, they must
>> |||| give up their MVP designation if they accept employment with
>> |||| Microsoft.
>> ||||
>> |||| As such, we do NOT represent Microsoft, their views, or the fitness
>> |||| of their
>> |||| software for specific purposes.
>> ||||
>> |||| Read the archives of this group and others if you have any
>> |||| questions.
>> ||||
>> |||| Microsoft lackeys we are not - and you would find many MVPs who
>> |||| will give them "what for" when they mess up, which they do, on many
>> |||| occasions, me among them.
>> ||||
>> |||| However, user stupidity, lack of thoughtfulness, inability to
>> |||| understand "beta" or any other user error also gets the same
>> |||| treatment.
>> ||||
>> |||| Caveat Emptor - would that be a better label for Beta software?
>> |||| Except, folks think they are getting a free Microsoft Office suite
>> |||| to use for a few
>> |||| months and can't resist the temptation, DON'T read the warnings,
>> |||| and install
>> |||| it thinking that it will work perfectly and can be uninstalled as
>> |||| the "normal" program can.
>> ||||
>> |||| Tell me, how is anyone going to bang this into anyone's head when
>> |||| Google mail, toolbar, etc. have been in perpetual beta and lull
>> |||| people into thinking that beta software works perfectly for their
>> |||| production environments.
>> ||||
>> |||| If you want to blame anyone, blame the perpetual Google betas for
>> |||| diluting the meaning of "beta."
>> ||||
>> |||| --
>> |||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>> ||||
>> |||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
>> |||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
>> |||| without reading.
>> ||||
>> |||| After furious head scratching, John S. asked:
>> ||||
>> ||||| Let it be known that if you post something that JoAnn Paules
>> ||||| [MVP] dosent like, you will be berated & belittled because you
>> ||||| did not do things the way she thinks is the "only" way. This is
>> ||||| no way for a supposed Microsoft representative to behave. Uncle
>> ||||| Bill should be told about this woman. After all he signs her
>> ||||| paycheck.
>> |||||
>> |||||| I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
>> ||||||
>> |||||| All I get from the application is "The installation of this
>> |||||| package failed"
>> ||||||
>> |||||| ??
>>
>>
>>
|
|
"JayKay" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
>
> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed"
>
I will also agree that there are serious installation issues: I have just
bought (10 EUR) the full 2007 package on DVD. No matter how many times I
tried, it has been impossible to install either 2007 OFFICE or parts of it,
for that matter...Installation may fail without explanation or - as it has
been the case with VISIO - the installer is unable to find some necessary
files. I already gave up...
|
|
That's definitely not a helpful post, as most of us clearly know the beta
contingencies of "no tech support/as is." Repeating the beta terms of usage
to users who are just trying to figure out how to install the product to
begin with only fuels the fire of frustration.
Clearly, if so many people are having problems with the installation alone
of this product, the signs of what's to come ahead if actually using the beta
product seem grim to me. Maybe a new beta 3 version will appear soon
correcting this problem.
Derek
"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta states: > "Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical support." > > -- > > JoAnn Paules > MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > > > > "Peteerwilliam" <Peteerwilliam[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:4303C21F-3B81-4A69-9E9C-E82E04B2A459[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > > Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion group" -not > > very > > helpful. I hope someone has the answer. > > "JayKay" wrote: > > > >> I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE > >> > >> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package > >> failed" > >> > >> ?? > > > |
|
And that's why a lot of us have no intention of getting Office 2007 until
it's been released and patched a couple of times. We already know there are
going to be problems - there always are.
--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
"psychguy" <psychguy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:22D356A8-2BF2-4B7B-BAAA-22792B462D51[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > That's definitely not a helpful post, as most of us clearly know the beta > contingencies of "no tech support/as is." Repeating the beta terms of > usage > to users who are just trying to figure out how to install the product to > begin with only fuels the fire of frustration. > > Clearly, if so many people are having problems with the installation alone > of this product, the signs of what's to come ahead if actually using the > beta > product seem grim to me. Maybe a new beta 3 version will appear soon > correcting this problem. > > Derek > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: > >> The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta states: >> "Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical support." >> >> -- >> >> JoAnn Paules >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher] >> >> >> >> "Peteerwilliam" <Peteerwilliam[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> message >> news:4303C21F-3B81-4A69-9E9C-E82E04B2A459[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > >> > Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion group" -not >> > very >> > helpful. I hope someone has the answer. >> > "JayKay" wrote: >> > >> >> I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE >> >> >> >> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package >> >> failed" >> >> >> >> ?? >> >> >>
|
|
There may or may not be another public beta release. Typically, with prior
betas, there is only one public release and all others are made available to
the technical testers. Microsoft has not made any announcements about this,
one way or the other.
--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.
After furious head scratching, psychguy asked:
| That's definitely not a helpful post, as most of us clearly know the
| beta contingencies of "no tech support/as is." Repeating the beta
| terms of usage to users who are just trying to figure out how to
| install the product to begin with only fuels the fire of frustration.
|
| Clearly, if so many people are having problems with the installation
| alone of this product, the signs of what's to come ahead if actually
| using the beta product seem grim to me. Maybe a new beta 3 version
| will appear soon correcting this problem.
|
| Derek
|
| "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
|
|| The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta states:
|| "Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical
|| support."
||
|| --
||
|| JoAnn Paules
|| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
||
||
||
|| "Peteerwilliam" <Peteerwilliam[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
|| message news:4303C21F-3B81-4A69-9E9C-E82E04B2A459[ at ]microsoft.com...
|||
||| Me too, just the same - Microsoft say "refer to discussion group"
||| -not very
||| helpful. I hope someone has the answer.
||| "JayKay" wrote:
|||
|||| I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
||||
|||| All I get from the application is "The installation of this package
|||| failed"
||||
|||| ??
|
|
Choosing "upgrade" from Office 2007 rather than "full installation" finally
worked for me. Before that, I kept getting the freeze that most people
described once the "installing Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2007
(beta)" prompt appeared and froze.
If you don't have any previous editions of Office, maybe downloading a
try-out version of an older version could work, then upgrading to 2007 from
that?
Another option to potentially try is doing the "full installation" method of
2007 and only choose one or two components (i.e. Word or PowerPoint only) and
leaving out all of the extra tools, or not selecting "Run all of this from my
computer" versus "Run on first use of this program" etc. But ei
Derek
"JayKay" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I downloaded the beta file OPPLUS-EN.EXE
>
> All I get from the application is "The installation of this package failed"
>
> ??
|
|
No. it isn't. You just talked yourself into thinking you had done it. Your
behavior as a representative of Microsoft is disgraceful. You should consider
another line of work.
"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > My job is complete.
>
> --
>
> JoAnn Paules
> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>
>
>
> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:29758139-0561-4892-A328-951099F35B5B[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > No comment. I choose to give you the consideration you deserve, I will
> > never
> > responde to one of your posts to me again. You are not worth the effort.
> > --
> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in
> > English,
> > thank a Soldier.
> >
> >
> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> I live where people read the warnings before downloading beta software on
> >> their production system.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> JoAnn Paules
> >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:A60AC154-9F98-476B-A965-AF1A922D2B92[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> > As I said before, (put the way its said in the South where real people
> >> > live)
> >> > Nuff Said! If you wanted to be any help, you would have already done
> >> > so.
> >> > --
> >> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in
> >> > English,
> >> > thank a Soldier.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> My husband doesn't drink at all and I have maybe two or three cordials
> >> >> a
> >> >> year.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> JoAnn Paules
> >> >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:35282E4D-9256-43F5-96BD-3F37D3F5C5D7[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> >> > And my point is that as a representative of Microsoft, you need to
> >> >> > remember
> >> >> > that you catch a lot more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.
> >> >> > That
> >> >> > kind of condecending remark will help no one. I saw another one of
> >> >> > your
> >> >> > "like responses in another thread and the two together tells me you
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > serious need on an attitude adjustment. May I suggest several
> >> >> > quarts
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > Jack
> >> >> > Daniels and an evening with your favorite "significant other"? I
> >> >> > think
> >> >> > theres been enough said at this point.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in
> >> >> > English,
> >> >> > thank a Soldier.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> My point was that everyone is forewarned that they are on their own
> >> >> >> if
> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> opt to run the beta. If someone in the MS newsgroups can help,
> >> >> >> great.
> >> >> >> But
> >> >> >> there's no guarantee that anyone can provide any advice.
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> JoAnn Paules
> >> >> >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> (BTW - I have thanked my teachers and I did better than thank a
> >> >> >> soldier,
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> *was* one.)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "John S." <JohnS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:81D91384-7172-4810-B4A8-BF4487D51990[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > JoAnn, I believe we all know there is no actual tech support for
> >> >> >> > beta
> >> >> >> > software, but dont you think it would be prudent to at least
> >> >> >> > offer a
> >> >> >> > little
> >> >> >> > asistance rather than a put down to those trying to help find the
> >> >> >> > bugs?
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > am
> >> >> >> > having the exact same problem and I am using the beta 2 version
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > Vista.
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > am a 30 year "veteran" working with computers & I could sure use
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > little
> >> >> >> > help figuring this one out.
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > English,
> >> >> >> > thank a Soldier.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> The notice that appeared prior to your downloading the beta
> >> >> >> >> states:
> >> >> >> >> "Beta code is offered "as is", and does NOT include technical
> >> >> >> >> support."
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> JoAnn Paules
> >> > | | |