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Where to get information?
"EmBee" <may04NOT_THIS[ at ]mindspring.com> 27.02.2006 23:39:43
I have some general newbie-type questions, and I don't see the answer to
them in the on-line help, and when I went to support.microsoft.com and used
their search engine, I got no responses.

Specifically, I wanted to change my file that was called index.htm, but
wanted to save the original, in case I messed up.

When I changed the file name, I got the message,
"Some of the files in this Web page aren't in the expected location. Do
yo want to download them anyway? If you'r sure the web page is from a
trusted source, click Yes."

I assume this is becuase I had a graphic inserted into the file, which was
in folder index_files.

So, two questions:
1) I don't get what's going on. If I have two files, both pointing to the
same graphic in index_files, what's wrong with that?

2) Where can I get some info on using the microsoft site to answer this
question myself? It seems like this is basic info, that should be in the
Help file, or on the MS website, no?


Re: Where to get information?
"PopS" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> 28.02.2006 00:26:28

"EmBee" <may04NOT_THIS[ at ]mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:upxLVc$OGHA.3728[ at ]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
>I have some general newbie-type questions, and I don't see the
>answer to
> them in the on-line help, and when I went to
> support.microsoft.com and used
> their search engine, I got no responses.
>
> Specifically, I wanted to change my file that was called
> index.htm, but
> wanted to save the original, in case I messed up.
>
> When I changed the file name, I got the message,
> "Some of the files in this Web page aren't in the expected
> location. Do
> yo want to download them anyway? If you'r sure the web page is
> from a
> trusted source, click Yes."
====> If you're saying you renamed index.htm to something else,
that is likely the cause of the error message. Usually there
must be an index.htm in order for the server to work properly.
It's the default web page visitors see when they come to your
site and doesn't have to be asked for; sort of a default.
>
> I assume this is becuase I had a graphic inserted into the
> file, which was
> in folder index_files.
>
> So, two questions:
> 1) I don't get what's going on. If I have two files, both
> pointing to the
> same graphic in index_files, what's wrong with that?
====> It shouldn't matter and there's nothing inherently wrong
with that. The server doesn't care what's IN your files, only
that index.htm is there.
>
> 2) Where can I get some info on using the microsoft site to
> answer this
> question myself? It seems like this is basic info, that should
> be in the
> Help file, or on the MS website, no?
====> I don't use MS websites, but I'm sure the information
exists someplace there. MS can be a little frustrating when
trying to find certain information. Is there a forum
specifically for the web site stuff you're trying to do? If so,
that would be the best place to ask this.
>
>

I don't understand your question, really, so if I've completely
missed the mark, try explaining it a little differently and in
more detail. I'll help if I can.

Pop




Re: Where to get information?
"EmBee" <may04NOT_THIS[ at ]mindspring.com> 28.02.2006 10:39:25

"PopS" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:%23LbXZ2$OGHA.1032[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
>
> "EmBee" <may04NOT_THIS[ at ]mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:upxLVc$OGHA.3728[ at ]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> > Specifically, I want to change my file that was called
> > index.htm, but wanted to save the original, in case I messed up.
> >
> > When I changed the file name, I got the message,
> > "Some of the files in this Web page aren't in the expected
> > location. Do you want to download them anyway? If you'r sure the web
page is
> > from a trusted source, click Yes."

> ====> If you're saying you renamed index.htm to something else,
> that is likely the cause of the error message. Usually there
> must be an index.htm in order for the server to work properly.
> It's the default web page visitors see when they come to your
> site and doesn't have to be asked for; sort of a default.

> > I assume this is because I had a graphic inserted into the
> > file, which was in folder index_files.
> > I don't get what's going on. If I have two files, both
> > pointing to the same graphic in index_files, what's wrong with that?

> ====> It shouldn't matter and there's nothing inherently wrong
> with that. The server doesn't care what's IN your files, only
> that index.htm is there.

>
> I don't understand your question, really, so if I've completely
> missed the mark, try explaining it a little differently and in
> more detail. I'll help if I can.
>

I want to use Word to modify index.htm, which is saved on my local hard
drive. when I'm done, I'll ftp it to the server, along with index_files
subdirectory, which contains a graphic that is inserted in index.htm.

I want to keep a copy of the original, in case I muck up the changes. I'm
just learning here.

But when I rename the file on my local drive called "index.htm" I get the
error message listed above. (some of the files aren't in the expected
location...)

I don't really understand what's going on - it seems like when I rename the
original file, or copy the original file, I should have two .htm files both
with a graphic in the index_files subdirectory, but instead, I get an error
message, and my index.htm file does not display the graphic, I only see a
placeholder, and have to click on the place holder to see the graphic.

I'm thinking that maybe Word wants to see the graphic not in the index_files
subdirectory, but in a subdirectory that is named whatever the new filename
is that I've created? when does that change take place? Does it happen
when I rename a file in the Explorer window?

What I *really* want is something that exlains what Word is doing in the
back ground, so I can understand how to work with my web files.

Maybe the short-term solution is not to copy the index.htm file, but to copy
the directory that it is in?

I hope this is a clearer explanation of the issue.






Re: Where to get information?
"EmBee" <may04NOT_THIS[ at ]mindspring.com> 28.02.2006 10:39:48

"PopS" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:%23LbXZ2$OGHA.1032[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
>
> "EmBee" <may04NOT_THIS[ at ]mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:upxLVc$OGHA.3728[ at ]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> > Specifically, I want to change my file that was called
> > index.htm, but wanted to save the original, in case I messed up.
> >
> > When I changed the file name, I got the message,
> > "Some of the files in this Web page aren't in the expected
> > location. Do you want to download them anyway? If you'r sure the web
page is
> > from a trusted source, click Yes."

> ====> If you're saying you renamed index.htm to something else,
> that is likely the cause of the error message. Usually there
> must be an index.htm in order for the server to work properly.
> It's the default web page visitors see when they come to your
> site and doesn't have to be asked for; sort of a default.

> > I assume this is because I had a graphic inserted into the
> > file, which was in folder index_files.
> > I don't get what's going on. If I have two files, both
> > pointing to the same graphic in index_files, what's wrong with that?

> ====> It shouldn't matter and there's nothing inherently wrong
> with that. The server doesn't care what's IN your files, only
> that index.htm is there.

>
> I don't understand your question, really, so if I've completely
> missed the mark, try explaining it a little differently and in
> more detail. I'll help if I can.
>

I want to use Word to modify index.htm, which is saved on my local hard
drive. when I'm done, I'll ftp it to the server, along with index_files
subdirectory, which contains a graphic that is inserted in index.htm.

I want to keep a copy of the original, in case I muck up the changes. I'm
just learning here.

But when I rename the file on my local drive called "index.htm" I get the
error message listed above. (some of the files aren't in the expected
location...)

I don't really understand what's going on - it seems like when I rename the
original file, or copy the original file, I should have two .htm files both
with a graphic in the index_files subdirectory, but instead, I get an error
message, and my index.htm file does not display the graphic, I only see a
placeholder, and have to click on the place holder to see the graphic.

I'm thinking that maybe Word wants to see the graphic not in the index_files
subdirectory, but in a subdirectory that is named whatever the new filename
is that I've created? when does that change take place? Does it happen
when I rename a file in the Explorer window?

What I *really* want is something that exlains what Word is doing in the
back ground, so I can understand how to work with my web files.

Maybe the short-term solution is not to copy the index.htm file, but to copy
the directory that it is in?

I hope this is a clearer explanation of the issue.







Re: Where to get information?
"PopS" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> 28.02.2006 20:10:36

"EmBee" <may04NOT_THIS[ at ]mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:enqCMNFPGHA.344[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
>
> "PopS" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:%23LbXZ2$OGHA.1032[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
....
>> I don't understand your question, really, so if I've
>> completely
>> missed the mark, try explaining it a little differently and in
>> more detail. I'll help if I can.
>>
>
REsponse below:

> I want to use Word to modify index.htm, which is saved on my
> local hard
> drive. when I'm done, I'll ftp it to the server, along with
> index_files
> subdirectory, which contains a graphic that is inserted in
> index.htm.
>
> I want to keep a copy of the original, in case I muck up the
> changes. I'm
> just learning here.
>
> But when I rename the file on my local drive called "index.htm"
> I get the
> error message listed above. (some of the files aren't in the
> expected
> location...)
>
> I don't really understand what's going on - it seems like when
> I rename the
> original file, or copy the original file, I should have two
> .htm files both
> with a graphic in the index_files subdirectory, but instead, I
> get an error
> message, and my index.htm file does not display the graphic, I
> only see a
> placeholder, and have to click on the place holder to see the
> graphic.
>
> I'm thinking that maybe Word wants to see the graphic not in
> the index_files
> subdirectory, but in a subdirectory that is named whatever the
> new filename
> is that I've created? when does that change take place? Does
> it happen
> when I rename a file in the Explorer window?
>
> What I *really* want is something that exlains what Word is
> doing in the
> back ground, so I can understand how to work with my web files.
>
> Maybe the short-term solution is not to copy the index.htm
> file, but to copy
> the directory that it is in?
>
> I hope this is a clearer explanation of the issue.

====> These might help:
http://www.btinternet.com/~wildfire/articles/5.htm
http://catalyst.washington.edu/webbeats/relative.html
http://www.searchengineguide.com/hartzer/006511.html
====>
I still can't get a good feel for what you have, but I think I
might have an explanation that might help you figure things out.

Do you know what a Relative Link is? This is, I think, where you
are getting the problems from. You should be using Relative
links for transportable files, such as moving them from your
computer to a web site server.


And of course, if you've renamed a file, it can't be found,
either, until you make the name in index.htm call for the
correctly named graphic file.

If I've completely missed the boat, let me know! I'll try again
<g>.

Pop


Re: Where to get information?
Don <lostinspace[ at ]123-universe.com> 01.03.2006 07:30:05
"EmBee" <may04NOT_THIS[ at ]mindspring.com> wrote in
news:enqCMNFPGHA.344[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

[Quoted Text]
>
> "PopS" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:%23LbXZ2$OGHA.1032[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "EmBee" <may04NOT_THIS[ at ]mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:upxLVc$OGHA.3728[ at ]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
>> > Specifically, I want to change my file that was called
>> > index.htm, but wanted to save the original, in case I messed up.
>> >
>> > When I changed the file name, I got the message,
>> > "Some of the files in this Web page aren't in the expected
>> > location. Do you want to download them anyway? If you'r sure the
>> > web
> page is
>> > from a trusted source, click Yes."
>
>> ====> If you're saying you renamed index.htm to something else,
>> that is likely the cause of the error message. Usually there
>> must be an index.htm in order for the server to work properly.
>> It's the default web page visitors see when they come to your
>> site and doesn't have to be asked for; sort of a default.
>
>> > I assume this is because I had a graphic inserted into the
>> > file, which was in folder index_files.
>> > I don't get what's going on. If I have two files, both
>> > pointing to the same graphic in index_files, what's wrong with
>> > that?
>
>> ====> It shouldn't matter and there's nothing inherently wrong
>> with that. The server doesn't care what's IN your files, only
>> that index.htm is there.
>
>>
>> I don't understand your question, really, so if I've completely
>> missed the mark, try explaining it a little differently and in
>> more detail. I'll help if I can.
>>
>
> I want to use Word to modify index.htm, which is saved on my local
> hard drive. when I'm done, I'll ftp it to the server, along with
> index_files subdirectory, which contains a graphic that is inserted in
> index.htm.
>
> I want to keep a copy of the original, in case I muck up the changes.
> I'm just learning here.
>
> But when I rename the file on my local drive called "index.htm" I get
> the error message listed above. (some of the files aren't in the
> expected location...)
>
> I don't really understand what's going on - it seems like when I
> rename the original file, or copy the original file, I should have two
> .htm files both with a graphic in the index_files subdirectory, but
> instead, I get an error message, and my index.htm file does not
> display the graphic, I only see a placeholder, and have to click on
> the place holder to see the graphic.
>
> I'm thinking that maybe Word wants to see the graphic not in the
> index_files subdirectory, but in a subdirectory that is named whatever
> the new filename is that I've created? when does that change take
> place? Does it happen when I rename a file in the Explorer window?
>
> What I *really* want is something that exlains what Word is doing in
> the back ground, so I can understand how to work with my web files.
>
> Maybe the short-term solution is not to copy the index.htm file, but
> to copy the directory that it is in?
>
> I hope this is a clearer explanation of the issue.
>
>
>
>

The simpliest solution is to NOT use Word to rename your back-up file.
Rather, rename the file from either Windows Explorer or My Computer.

A better solution is to NOT use Word at all when creating or editing web
pages.
Re: Where to get information?
"PopS" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> 01.03.2006 13:13:04
....
[Quoted Text]
>
> The simpliest solution is to NOT use Word to rename your
> back-up file.
> Rather, rename the file from either Windows Explorer or My
> Computer.
>
> A better solution is to NOT use Word at all when creating or
> editing web
> pages.

That wont' really be the "solution", but it is good advice.
Although it will do it, Word wasn't really intended for writing
web sites. After you've figured out your presen tproblem, that's
likely the next direction to look in. There are some good ones
out there that will do what you want; nvu.com is one of them; VG
for newbies.

Pop


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