Capitalize first letter of sentence problem petermcwerner 23.02.2006 07:15:26 Word XP automatically capitalizes the first letter whenever I enter a <CR> (Enter) even if it is not a new sentence. Example This is Not a new sentence How to change this behaviour?

Re: Capitalize first letter of sentence problem John Doue <notwobe[ at ]yahoo.com> 23.02.2006 07:58:06 petermcwerner wrote: [Quoted Text] > Word XP automatically capitalizes the first letter whenever I enter a <CR> > (Enter) even if it is not a new sentence. Example > > This is > Not a new sentence > > How to change this behaviour? Tools, Autocorrect options, Autocorrect Tab, uncheck the corresponding choice. Regards -- John Doue

Re: Capitalize first letter of sentence problem petermcwerner 23.02.2006 08:18:29 Thank you John, [Quoted Text] > Tools, Autocorrect options, Autocorrect Tab, uncheck the corresponding > choice. If I do that, then it will not correct real capitalization errors. Is there no way that I can exclude only the capitalization on New Lines when there was no full stop on the previous line? Regards Peter

Re: Capitalize first letter of sentence problem "Charles Kenyon" <wordfaq[ at ]nospam.addbalance.com> 23.02.2006 09:52:17 Don't use Enter to end a line. Use word wrap and set your margins and indents so that it works for you. You can insert a manual line break instead of a paragraph break with Shift-Enter. You can hit Ctrl-Z (Undo) immediately after the capitalization. There is an old book called "The Mac Is Not A Typewriter." I would suggest you find a copy of it or of "The Word Processor Book." I believe they were both written by Peter McWilliams. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "petermcwerner" <petermcwerner[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:57BF62E1-0201-4B99-9610-85E5222DFE31[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Word XP automatically capitalizes the first letter whenever I enter a <CR> > (Enter) even if it is not a new sentence. Example > > This is > Not a new sentence > > How to change this behaviour?

Re: Capitalize first letter of sentence problem petermcwerner 23.02.2006 20:52:29 Thank you Charles for your tips [Quoted Text] > You can insert a manual line break instead of a paragraph break with > Shift-Enter. I guess I shall have to resort to this method. It is not very practical because you have to be very attentive and it slows down the workflow significantly. I consider this a bug. You do not expect a word processor to create new errors instead of correcting yours. There should be an option (better, it should be default behaviour) not to capitalize after a <CR> if the previous line did not end with a [.] or [?] etc.

Re: Capitalize first letter of sentence problem Thierry Fontenelle [MSFT] 26.02.2006 04:11:28 Peter, Most people would not consider this a bug, I think. I guess most users would expect the line starting after a <CR> to be capitalized since in most cases, if it did not end with a full stop, the stuff before the <CR> is in fact a title, a heading, a sub-title, etc. When you write a report, you tend to write something like "Introduction", then <CR>, then you expect the beginning of your paragraph to be capitalized. If this is not the case, then follow Charles' tips. I hope it helps, Best wishes, Thierry Thierry Fontenelle [MSFT] "petermcwerner" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Thank you Charles for your tips > > > You can insert a manual line break instead of a paragraph break with > > Shift-Enter. > > I guess I shall have to resort to this method. It is not very practical > because you have to be very attentive and it slows down the workflow > significantly. > > I consider this a bug. You do not expect a word processor to create new > errors instead of correcting yours. > > There should be an option (better, it should be default behaviour) not to > capitalize after a <CR> if the previous line did not end with a [.] or [?] > etc.

Re: Capitalize first letter of sentence problem "Charles Kenyon" <wordfaq[ at ]nospam.addbalance.com> 26.02.2006 06:13:44 The Enter key is a command to Word to begin a new paragraph. By definition, this begins a new sentence. I again urge you to check out the McWilliams books. It will save you a lot of time and frustration. You are using your computer and word processor as if they were typewriters. They are not. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "petermcwerner" <petermcwerner[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7AC6AF78-02D7-4FFB-B846-11BE2A16F8B0[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Thank you Charles for your tips > >> You can insert a manual line break instead of a paragraph break with >> Shift-Enter. > > I guess I shall have to resort to this method. It is not very practical > because you have to be very attentive and it slows down the workflow > significantly. > > I consider this a bug. You do not expect a word processor to create new > errors instead of correcting yours. > > There should be an option (better, it should be default behaviour) not to > capitalize after a <CR> if the previous line did not end with a [.] or [?] > etc.

Re: Capitalize first letter of sentence problem petermcwerner 26.02.2006 14:10:27 Charles, Allow me to disagree. First, I am not a word processor professional and for me Word has to be a tool to get my work done simply and efficiently. I am not interested in the philosophy behind it and I expect an interface that will allow me to do so with a minimum of study and effort. I have used WordStar before PCs were invented, then WordPerfect and Ventura Publisher before switching to various successive versions of Word. I am using Dreamweaver for creating/editing web pages, so I would think I am not a beginner as far as word processors and editors are concerned. I expect from a software that it can be adapted to my way of working and having to use an unusual combination of keys (Shift-Enter of Ctrl-Z) to achieve an often needed simple result is just not efficient. It considerably slows down my workflow if I have to continually correct the mistakes Word introduces in a document by this “Feature” instead of concentrating on the text and relying on the spell-checker to correct MY mistakes. When I write, the following cases that provoke these errors often happen: - I want to break to line to have a web address in a new line and not within the text flow of the paragraph: ************* You will find an in-depth analysis of this phenomenon on Http://www.xyz.com/xxxx/lllll/12354 ************* - I want to enter an email address: ************* John Doe John.doe[ at ]example.com ************* In both cases, Word introduces this disturbing capitalization error that I have to watch out for. Well, I think all has been said about this “Feature”. I will have to live with this “bug” and manually correct the errors introduced by Word into my texts. "Charles Kenyon" wrote: [Quoted Text] > The Enter key is a command to Word to begin a new paragraph. By definition, > this begins a new sentence. I again urge you to check out the McWilliams > books. It will save you a lot of time and frustration. You are using your > computer and word processor as if they were typewriters. They are not. > -- > Charles Kenyon > > Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word > > Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of > Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide > > See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! > --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies > and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn > from my ignorance and your wisdom. > > > "petermcwerner" <petermcwerner[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:7AC6AF78-02D7-4FFB-B846-11BE2A16F8B0[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Thank you Charles for your tips > > > >> You can insert a manual line break instead of a paragraph break with > >> Shift-Enter. > > > > I guess I shall have to resort to this method. It is not very practical > > because you have to be very attentive and it slows down the workflow > > significantly. > > > > I consider this a bug. You do not expect a word processor to create new > > errors instead of correcting yours. > > > > There should be an option (better, it should be default behaviour) not to > > capitalize after a <CR> if the previous line did not end with a [.] or [?] > > etc. > > >

Re: Capitalize first letter of sentence problem John Doue <notwobe[ at ]yahoo.com> 27.02.2006 09:53:16 petermcwerner wrote: [Quoted Text] > Charles, > > Allow me to disagree. First, I am not a word processor professional and for > me Word has to be a tool to get my work done simply and efficiently. I am not > interested in the philosophy behind it and I expect an interface that will > allow me to do so with a minimum of study and effort. I have used WordStar > before PCs were invented, then WordPerfect and Ventura Publisher before > switching to various successive versions of Word. I am using Dreamweaver for > creating/editing web pages, so I would think I am not a beginner as far as > word processors and editors are concerned. > > I expect from a software that it can be adapted to my way of working and > having to use an unusual combination of keys (Shift-Enter of Ctrl-Z) to > achieve an often needed simple result is just not efficient. It considerably > slows down my workflow if I have to continually correct the mistakes Word > introduces in a document by this “Feature” instead of concentrating on the > text and relying on the spell-checker to correct MY mistakes. > > When I write, the following cases that provoke these errors often happen: > > - I want to break to line to have a web address in a new line and not within > the text flow of the paragraph: > > ************* > You will find an in-depth analysis of this phenomenon on > Http://www.xyz.com/xxxx/lllll/12354 > ************* > > > - I want to enter an email address: > > ************* > John Doe > John.doe[ at ]example.com > ************* > > > In both cases, Word introduces this disturbing capitalization error that I > have to watch out for. > > Well, I think all has been said about this “Feature”. I will have to live > with this “bug” and manually correct the errors introduced by Word into my > texts. > > > > > "Charles Kenyon" wrote: > > >>The Enter key is a command to Word to begin a new paragraph. By definition, >>this begins a new sentence. I again urge you to check out the McWilliams >>books. It will save you a lot of time and frustration. You are using your >>computer and word processor as if they were typewriters. They are not. >>-- >>Charles Kenyon >> >>Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word >> >>Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of >>Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide >> >>See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! >> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- >>This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies >>and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn >>from my ignorance and your wisdom. >> >> >>"petermcwerner" <petermcwerner[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>news:7AC6AF78-02D7-4FFB-B846-11BE2A16F8B0[ at ]microsoft.com... >> >>>Thank you Charles for your tips >>> >>> >>>>You can insert a manual line break instead of a paragraph break with >>>>Shift-Enter. >>> >>>I guess I shall have to resort to this method. It is not very practical >>>because you have to be very attentive and it slows down the workflow >>>significantly. >>> >>>I consider this a bug. You do not expect a word processor to create new >>>errors instead of correcting yours. >>> >>>There should be an option (better, it should be default behaviour) not to >>>capitalize after a <CR> if the previous line did not end with a [.] or [?] >>>etc. >> >> >> Dear Peter, I have tried to look further into your problem. If I understand correctly the issue, you object to the fact that to achieve the intended result, you have to hit Shift-Enter instead of Enter. I am not sure I would be able to write it, but I think a macro would solve your problem. The idea would be for the macro to check, when you hit a certain key (since I am not sure a macro can be assigned to "Enter") if the previous character is or is not a character marking the end of a sentence. Depending on the answer, the macro would enter a Return or a shift-Enter return. Of course, if as I suspect, it is not possible to assign such a macro to the Enter key, you might want to assign it to the nearest key, like Right Ctrl, that I suspect nobody ever uses. Or you could create a button in the menu bar that would launch the macro. You mention the fact that you used to use Wordperfect. I just check on WP12 and indeed, it seems to behave the way you want it to. Hope this helps a little bit. -- John Doue

Re: Capitalize first letter of sentence problem petermcwerner 27.02.2006 10:53:27 Thank you for your suggestion. [Quoted Text] >Of course, if as I suspect, it is not possible to assign such a macro to >the Enter key, you might want to assign it to the nearest key, like >Right Ctrl I fear this would not change the issue. I would always have to be careful and use a special key (e.g. Right Ctrl instead of Shift Enter). The problem is that - whatever workaround one chooses - it always involves alertness as to the fact that Word will create an error and this slows down considerably the workflow. >You mention the fact that you used to use Wordperfect. I just check > on WP12 and indeed, it seems to behave the way you want it to. All the other editors I currently use, do not have this behaviour: Dreamweaver, the Visual Studio Editor, Notepad. Of course they do not have a spelling checker. I sometimes import text I wrote with Notepad or Dreamweaver into Word to spell check and - pronto - I get a number of spelling errors shown due to this behaviour of Word. In this case it is not too bad, I can just ignore these "errors". When I use Word to write a text, I have to remember that Word behaves differently from all the other editors I use. I can of course turn off Capitalization checking, but then Word will not correct legitimate errors either. Thank you again for your suggestion. I do not see a solution to this problem and I guess I shall have to live with this error.

Re: Capitalize first letter of sentence problem John Doue <notwobe[ at ]yahoo.com> 27.02.2006 13:53:55 petermcwerner wrote: [Quoted Text] > Thank you for your suggestion. > > >>Of course, if as I suspect, it is not possible to assign such a macro to >>the Enter key, you might want to assign it to the nearest key, like >>Right Ctrl > > > I fear this would not change the issue. I would always have to be careful > and use a special key (e.g. Right Ctrl instead of Shift Enter). The problem > is that - whatever workaround one chooses - it always involves alertness as > to the fact that Word will create an error and this slows down considerably > the workflow. > > >>You mention the fact that you used to use Wordperfect. I just check >>on WP12 and indeed, it seems to behave the way you want it to. > > > All the other editors I currently use, do not have this behaviour: > Dreamweaver, the Visual Studio Editor, Notepad. Of course they do not have a > spelling checker. I sometimes import text I wrote with Notepad or Dreamweaver > into Word to spell check and - pronto - I get a number of spelling errors > shown due to this behaviour of Word. > > In this case it is not too bad, I can just ignore these "errors". When I use > Word to write a text, I have to remember that Word behaves differently from > all the other editors I use. I can of course turn off Capitalization > checking, but then Word will not correct legitimate errors either. > > Thank you again for your suggestion. I do not see a solution to this problem > and I guess I shall have to live with this error. Peter, My suggestion of a macro would not require alertness since the macro will make the right choice depending on what character it finds when you run it. But it would require you to always use a key combination instead of Enter which, I agree, is not very desirable. Regards -- John Doue