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footnote styles
hhnnrr <hhnnrr.22d7qv[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com> 28.01.2006 21:04:49
hello ,
i'm using an arabic version of microsoft office word 2003 , an i'm writing a paper which includes many footnotes .

my question is :

how can i have the numbers of the footnotes looking like this : ( 1 ) , but still be automatic ( ie. when i move the text the footnote number changes accordingly ) ..


thank you -- hhnnrrPosted from - http://www.officehelp.in
Re: footnote styles
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> 29.01.2006 04:27:30
Let Word insert the numbers, and you add the parentheses.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"hhnnrr" <hhnnrr.22d7qv[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> hello ,
> i'm using an arabic version of microsoft office word 2003 , an i'm
> writing a paper which includes many footnotes .
>
> my question is :
>
> how can i have the numbers of the footnotes looking like this : ( 1 ) ,
> but still be automatic ( ie. when i move the text the footnote number
> changes accordingly ) ..
>
>
> thank you
>
>
> --
> hhnnrrPosted from - http://www.officehelp.in
>

Re: footnote styles
"John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john[ at ]mcghie.name> 29.01.2006 04:46:06
Type the parentheses, and insert the footnote between them. Sorry: you can
customise the character used as the footnote number, and you can customise
the footnote reference style text formatting, but you cannot customise text
to be included with the footnote number.


On 29/1/06 8:04 AM, in article hhnnrr.22d7qv[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com, "hhnnrr"
<hhnnrr.22d7qv[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> hello ,
> i'm using an arabic version of microsoft office word 2003 , an i'm
> writing a paper which includes many footnotes .
>
> my question is :
>
> how can i have the numbers of the footnotes looking like this : ( 1 ) ,
> but still be automatic ( ie. when i move the text the footnote number
> changes accordingly ) ..
>
>
> thank you
>

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me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <john[ at ]mcghie.name>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

Re: footnote styles
hhnnrr <hhnnrr.22e59n[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com> 29.01.2006 09:25:17
in other words what i'm asking for is impossible ?!
and i have to do it manually in a 600 page thesis ?
i hope i misunderstood ... -- hhnnrrPosted from - http://www.officehelp.in
Re: footnote styles
"John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john[ at ]mcghie.name> 29.01.2006 10:40:13
Only 600 pages? You'll have it done in no time!

You have to insert the footnote reference anyway, it's two extra keystrokes
to insert the brackets. If that's too much effort, do the first one, then
store it as an autotext (look up autotext in the Help...). Name the
autotext something short, e.g. "#ftnt", and each time you type that string,
you will get a new, automatically-numbered footnote.


On 29/1/06 8:25 PM, in article hhnnrr.22e59n[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com, "hhnnrr"
<hhnnrr.22e59n[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> in other words what i'm asking for is impossible ?!
> and i have to do it manually in a 600 page thesis ?
> i hope i misunderstood ...
>

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me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <john[ at ]mcghie.name>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

Re: footnote styles
"Tony Jollans" <My Forename at My Surname dot com> 29.01.2006 11:25:24
Let Word automatically insert the footnotes and, when you're finished, do a
global Find and Replace to add the parentheses.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"hhnnrr" <hhnnrr.22e59n[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com> wrote in message
news:hhnnrr.22e59n[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> in other words what i'm asking for is impossible ?!
> and i have to do it manually in a 600 page thesis ?
> i hope i misunderstood ...
>
>
> --
> hhnnrrPosted from - http://www.officehelp.in
>


Re: footnote styles
hhnnrr <hhnnrr.22eg5x[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com> 29.01.2006 13:33:50
thank you all ,

mr. jollans could you further explain the procedure please

its seems like what i'm looking for , but i'm afraid i'm not familiar with it


thanks again -- hhnnrrPosted from - http://www.officehelp.in
Re: footnote styles
"Tony Jollans" <My Forename at My Surname dot com> 29.01.2006 17:40:38
Footnote numbers occur twice - once at the relevant point in the document
and once in the footnote.

To change both ...

Hit Ctrl+H
Find ^f
Replace with (^&)
Hit Replace All

If you only want to change the numbers in one or other occurrence you'll
need to limit where you do the replacements.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"hhnnrr" <hhnnrr.22eg5x[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> thank you all ,
>
> mr. jollans could you further explain the procedure please
>
> its seems like what i'm looking for , but i'm afraid i'm not familiar
> with it
>
>
> thanks again
>
>
> --
> hhnnrrPosted from - http://www.officehelp.in
>


Re: footnote styles
Daiya Mitchell <daiyaNOSPAM[ at ]mvps.org.INVALID> 29.01.2006 18:29:21
Wow! I have been trying to figure out how to use a footnote mark in a
Replace for the longest! Thanks, Tony.

Side note:
[Quoted Text]
> If you only want to change the numbers in one or other occurrence you'll
> need to limit where you do the replacements.

If you put the cursor in the notes, Replace All will *only* do the notes, it
will not do the main text as well. If the cursor is in the main text, it
will do the notes *and* the main text.

Daiya


On 1/29/06 9:40 AM, "Tony Jollans" wrote:

> Footnote numbers occur twice - once at the relevant point in the document
> and once in the footnote.
>
> To change both ...
>
> Hit Ctrl+H
> Find ^f
> Replace with (^&)
> Hit Replace All
>
> If you only want to change the numbers in one or other occurrence you'll
> need to limit where you do the replacements.
>
> --
> Enjoy,
> Tony
>
>
> "hhnnrr" <hhnnrr.22eg5x[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com> wrote in message
> news:hhnnrr.22eg5x[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com...
>>
>> thank you all ,
>>
>> mr. jollans could you further explain the procedure please
>>
>> its seems like what i'm looking for , but i'm afraid i'm not familiar
>> with it
>>
>>
>> thanks again
>>
>>
>> --
>> hhnnrrPosted from - http://www.officehelp.in
>>
>
>

Re: footnote styles
Daiya Mitchell <daiyaNOSPAM[ at ]mvps.org.INVALID> 29.01.2006 18:39:55
More side notes:

Don't do this until you are finished. If you do it more than once, you will
wind up with ((4)), etc. Probably another Find and Replace would delete the
extra parentheses, though.

What I tend to do, anyhow, is write my thesis in my own file. When I send
out draft chapters, I do a Save As, then in the copy I change it to
double-spaced, a font my professors will like instead of my preferred
writing font, run the Find and Replace, etc--while I continue to work in my
unformatted file.

Side note 2:

Word's footnotes are superscripted by default. To remove the superscript,
simply modify the Footnote Reference style. With the cursor in a footnote
number, select Modify Style from the list in the task pane. Check "add to
template" but *not* "automatically update", and use the Format | Font
dropdown in the dialog to remove the superscript.

Side note 3:

A compilation of useful links for thesis/book writers re Word here:
http://daiya.mvps.org/bookword.htm


On 1/29/06 9:40 AM, "Tony Jollans" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Footnote numbers occur twice - once at the relevant point in the document
> and once in the footnote.
>
> To change both ...
>
> Hit Ctrl+H
> Find ^f
> Replace with (^&)
> Hit Replace All
>
> If you only want to change the numbers in one or other occurrence you'll
> need to limit where you do the replacements.
>
> --
> Enjoy,
> Tony
>
>

Re: footnote styles
"Tony Jollans" <My Forename at My Surname dot com> 29.01.2006 19:33:09
Thanks Daiya.

There's enough extra information in those side notes there to keep most
anybody happy :-)

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Daiya Mitchell" <daiyaNOSPAM[ at ]mvps.org.INVALID> wrote in message
news:C0024BFB.5E1A8%daiyaNOSPAM[ at ]mvps.org.INVALID...
[Quoted Text]
> More side notes:
>
> Don't do this until you are finished. If you do it more than once, you
will
> wind up with ((4)), etc. Probably another Find and Replace would delete
the
> extra parentheses, though.
>
> What I tend to do, anyhow, is write my thesis in my own file. When I send
> out draft chapters, I do a Save As, then in the copy I change it to
> double-spaced, a font my professors will like instead of my preferred
> writing font, run the Find and Replace, etc--while I continue to work in
my
> unformatted file.
>
> Side note 2:
>
> Word's footnotes are superscripted by default. To remove the superscript,
> simply modify the Footnote Reference style. With the cursor in a footnote
> number, select Modify Style from the list in the task pane. Check "add to
> template" but *not* "automatically update", and use the Format | Font
> dropdown in the dialog to remove the superscript.
>
> Side note 3:
>
> A compilation of useful links for thesis/book writers re Word here:
> http://daiya.mvps.org/bookword.htm
>
>
> On 1/29/06 9:40 AM, "Tony Jollans" wrote:
>
> > Footnote numbers occur twice - once at the relevant point in the
document
> > and once in the footnote.
> >
> > To change both ...
> >
> > Hit Ctrl+H
> > Find ^f
> > Replace with (^&)
> > Hit Replace All
> >
> > If you only want to change the numbers in one or other occurrence you'll
> > need to limit where you do the replacements.
> >
> > --
> > Enjoy,
> > Tony
> >
> >
>


RE: footnote styles
Chuck Henrich 30.01.2006 12:03:27
In addition to the other suggestions you received, you can change the way
Word inserts footnotes by intercepting that command with a macro called
InsertFootnote. Note that this will change how all footnotes in all
documents are formatted. You can add code to the macro that allows you to
decide whether to put brackets around your references, superscript, different
colours etc.

Put this macro in a global template (for instance a template stored in your
Startup folder) or in your Normal.dot template.


Sub InsertFootnote()

Dim fn As Footnote
Dim rngRange As Range

Set rngRange = Selection.Range

Set fn = ActiveDocument.Footnotes.Add(Range:=rngRange)
fn.Reference.Font.Superscript = False

With rngRange
.InsertBefore "("
.MoveEnd Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=1
.Collapse wdCollapseEnd
.InsertAfter ")"
End With

With Selection
With .Paragraphs(1).Range
.Font.Reset
.InsertBefore "("
.Characters(.Characters.Count - 1) = ""
.MoveEnd Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=-1
.InsertAfter ")" & vbTab
.Collapse wdCollapseEnd
.Select
End With
End With

End Sub

HTH
--
Chuck Henrich
www.ProductivityApps.com
Stylist Style Generator - automatically create and define sets of paragraph
numbering and heading styles


"hhnnrr" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> hello ,
> i'm using an arabic version of microsoft office word 2003 , an i'm
> writing a paper which includes many footnotes .
>
> my question is :
>
> how can i have the numbers of the footnotes looking like this : ( 1 ) ,
> but still be automatic ( ie. when i move the text the footnote number
> changes accordingly ) ..
>
>
> thank you
>
>
> --
> hhnnrrPosted from - http://www.officehelp.in
>
>
Re: footnote styles
hhnnrr <hhnnrr.22rbv7[ at ]NoSpamPleaze.com> 05.02.2006 12:28:44
chuck herich,
thank you so much
but can you - or anyone else - explain how macros work in detail
i've never used this feature before yet i need it desperatly !

please .... anyone , step by step ? -- hhnnrrPosted from - http://www.officehelp.in
Re: footnote styles
Chuck Henrich 06.02.2006 13:12:27
Glad to be of help. I can give you quick instructions on how to create your
own add-in template where you can store the macro I posted and have it run
automatically when you insert footnotes.

Your other question - how macros work - is a big subject. To get started
you can take a look at the Visual Basic Editor (VBE) help files (Help>Table
of Contents>Programming Concepts>Working with Macros). You can also check
out the Word MVPS website (a wealth of info there). Here’s a link to part 1
of their tutorial on templates:

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart1.htm

To open the VBE choose Tools>Macro>Visual Basic Editor from your Word
window. You could also try the default shortcut key Alt+F11 if you haven’t
assigned something else to that keyboard combo.

To create an add-in:

1. Open a new document.

2. Click File>Save As.

3. In the Save As dialog, in the Save As Type field, click Document
Template. Save it in your Word Startup folder so that it will load every
time you start word and the macros it contains will be available to you. To
find your Startup folder, click Tools>Options>File Locations, click on
Startup in the File Types list and click the Modify button to see the full
path.

4. In the Save As dialog, give your add-in a name in the File Name field
(eg “MyAddIn”) and click Save. It will be saved as a template with a .dot
extension (eg “MyAddIn.dot”).

To add the macro I posted to your new add-in:

1. Open your add-in if it’s not open already (File>Open, document
type=templates and folder is your startup folder).

2. Open the VBE Editor (see above).

3. Make sure the Project Explorer is visible (in the VBE, click
View>Project Explorer or Ctl+R). The Project Explorer lists all your loaded
templates.

4. Find your add-in in the list. It should be listed as “Template Project
(MyAddIn)”. Right click on it and choose Project Properties.

5. In the Project Properties dialog on the General tab give your add-in a
descriptive name in the Project Name field and click OK. Now it will be
listed by that descriptive name in the Project Explorer list.

6. Right click on your project in the Project Explorer and choose
Insert>Module. You’ll see a Modules section open in your project and Module1
listed there.

7. Double click on Module1 to make sure it’s open in a separate window in
the VBE (it should already be open). Type “Option Explicit” then hit enter a
couple of times. For more info about Option Explicit search the VBE Help
files.

8. Copy and paste the macro I posted underneath Option Explicit.

9. In the VBE, click Debug>Compile Project. This compiles the code and
checks for errors/problems.

10. In the VBE, click File>Save.

Close the VBE and exit Word.

Open Word and your new add-in will be automatically load if you saved it in
your Startup folder. To test whether it’s intercepting the insert footnote
command, insert a footnote and see what happens.

There’s a world more to this subject than the brief instrux above, but
hopefully they’ll get you started.

--
Chuck Henrich
www.ProductivityApps.com
Stylist Style Generator - automatically create and define sets of paragraph
numbering and heading styles


"hhnnrr" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> chuck herich,
> thank you so much
> but can you - or anyone else - explain how macros work in detail
> i've never used this feature before yet i need it desperatly !
>
> please .... anyone , step by step ?
>
>
> --
> hhnnrrPosted from - http://www.officehelp.in
>
>

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